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  • January 27, 2015 at 9:53 pm #23117
    Bhenry611

    Hi, I would appreciate your views. I have decided to splash out and buy a new bike. I currently have an old Giant Defy 4. I would like to buy a carbon frame bike. I have a budget of £2000. I would like to buy the best quality frame I possibly can with a view to upgrading the other components over time.

    My cycling consists of a couple of 30 mile rides during the week and then a longer rude at the weekend. I would like to enter a few sportives but am not looking for a speed bike. I will obviously go and test ride a few but was just looking for a few opinions to start me off.

    Thanks,
    Ben

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  • February 2, 2015 at 11:39 am #828935
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    pants

    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:I’d

    Jimmy Ray Will wrote:
    I’d suggest taking a look at the Genesis Zero range. The reason being that the frameset of the base model is the same (except for paint) as the top of the range team frame.

    Now paint is worth more than you think (~100-200grams potentially) so I’d maybe look at the Zero 3 with 105 for £1700, as that is essentially a bare frame so the lightest.

    That’d be my answer too, not many bikes uses the same frame across the entire range. You get a frame that is being used by pros even if you get the cheapest tiagra option, and when your drive train wears out you can upgrade it depending on our budget.

    January 31, 2015 at 5:21 am #828933
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    chris1968

    Wilier gtr veloce /
    Wilier gtr veloce / centaur/105. good deals out there on 2014 bikes.these frames ride superbly in all conditions. period. imho. again, only an opinion based on personal experience and a definite bias to Italian bikes, pref with Italian kit .Like many people out there, I have owned and ridden different frameset/ groupset combinations and now know what works for me. we’re all different B-) :H

    January 31, 2015 at 5:16 am #828931
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    Colin Peyresourde

    I’m going to offer up
    I’m going to offer up sacrilege in two ways: increase your price point to £2,250, and secondly, Trek Emonda.

    The first reason is that at around £2,250 you’ll get a sale bike with Ultegra, which is about all you need, but the wheelset will likely be something with aluminium rims and spokes of spaghetti, so your major upgrade being a great set of wheels – justifiable once you’ve spent the first few rides buckling the pasta wheels. Get yourself some Ksyeriums or Dura Ace and you’ll be laughing.. Secondly, Emonda just won bike of the year. I own a Madone, which is a great bike (I hate Lance though).

    The shout for Rose Xenon is a good one. A great bike.

    Like someone else said, getting a ready made bike is cheaper, the manufacturer will probably sell on the group set, but skimp on the wheels, but you’ll never get your bike cheaper for the set-up with a custom build.

    January 30, 2015 at 6:48 pm #828929
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    Mrmiik

    Mrmiik wrote:surly_by_name

    Mrmiik wrote:
    surly_by_name wrote:
    Mrmiik wrote:
    Sub 7kg, race ready 11 speed (Ultegra/Force) bike for £1500-£1800? With a wheelset around the 1450g mark? Please point me to one.

    That custom build will have every part fit to your body if you know what you are doing.

    Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 SL, Force 22 with Ksyrium SLS, claimed weight of 6.95kgs, £1799. Although if you aren’t too fussed about a couple of hundred grams, I think the Canyon Endurace 9.0 PRO with Chorus 11s and Ritchey cockpit (7.15 claimed) for £1825 is possibly a better deal. If we have to keep to £1800 limit, the Ultimate CF SL 8.0 with Athena 11sp equipped (pretty much the Endurace but with a shorter top tube) also £1799. All the way down to the Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 (7.25kg claimed) with Ultegra 11sp for £1499.

    Your turn – price list for a complete, sub-7kg custom bike excluding pedals but including build cost that comes in at £1800.

    Cheers. My Aithein did with Force 22 and wheelsmiths.
    Those sound top bikes you’ve listed above – no need to upgrade those actually.

    Anyway, you win. You’ll note the thread seemed to have moved on, and I was under the impression my suggestion of another route had been dismissed. I actually recommend some off the shelf bikes like the BMC and Cinelli to the OP based on my own experience.

    January 30, 2015 at 6:29 pm #828927
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    Mrmiik

    surly_by_name wrote:Mrmiik

    surly_by_name wrote:
    Mrmiik wrote:
    Sub 7kg, race ready 11 speed (Ultegra/Force) bike for £1500-£1800? With a wheelset around the 1450g mark? Please point me to one.

    That custom build will have every part fit to your body if you know what you are doing.

    Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 SL, Force 22 with Ksyrium SLS, claimed weight of 6.95kgs, £1799. Although if you aren’t too fussed about a couple of hundred grams, I think the Canyon Endurace 9.0 PRO with Chorus 11s and Ritchey cockpit (7.15 claimed) for £1825 is possibly a better deal. If we have to keep to £1800 limit, the Ultimate CF SL 8.0 with Athena 11sp equipped (pretty much the Endurace but with a shorter top tube) also £1799. All the way down to the Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 (7.25kg claimed) with Ultegra 11sp for £1499.

    Your turn – price list for a complete, sub-7kg custom bike excluding pedals but including build cost that comes in at £1800.

    Cheers. My Aithein did with Force 22 and wheelsmiths.
    Those sound top bikes you’ve listed above – no need to upgrade those actually.

    January 30, 2015 at 9:39 am #828925
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    surly_by_name

    Mrmiik wrote:Sub 7kg, race

    Mrmiik wrote:
    Sub 7kg, race ready 11 speed (Ultegra/Force) bike for £1500-£1800? With a wheelset around the 1450g mark? Please point me to one.

    That custom build will have every part fit to your body if you know what you are doing.

    Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 SL, Force 22 with Ksyrium SLS, claimed weight of 6.95kgs, £1799. Although if you aren’t too fussed about a couple of hundred grams, I think the Canyon Endurace 9.0 PRO with Chorus 11s and Ritchey cockpit (7.15 claimed) for £1825 is possibly a better deal. If we have to keep to £1800 limit, the Ultimate CF SL 8.0 with Athena 11sp equipped (pretty much the Endurace but with a shorter top tube) also £1799. All the way down to the Ultimate AL SLX 9.0 (7.25kg claimed) with Ultegra 11sp for £1499.

    Your turn – price list for a complete, sub-7kg custom bike excluding pedals but including build cost that comes in at £1800.

    January 30, 2015 at 8:46 am #828923
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    runskiprun

    runskiprun wrote:
    hahaha
    budget committee, also known as the War Office when she finds N+1??

    You know her then? 😀

    January 29, 2015 at 9:09 pm #828921
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    Mrmiik

    ivanovicognjen wrote:Hi

    ivanovicognjen wrote:
    Hi Ben,

    If carbon is what you’re after, the following might be worth looking:

    1) C’dale Supersix EVO as mentioned
    2) C’dale Synapse Carbon
    2) Specialised Tarmac
    3) Bianchi Intenso
    4) BMC Team machine SLR02
    5) BMC GF01 (2014)
    6) Cinelli Saetta
    7) De Rosa R838

    Of course, some are more racy while others more comfort oriented (GF01, Synapse, Intenso).

    Ogi

    If the OP is set on the upgrade option – I can definitely recommend the BMC Team Machine and Cinelli Saetta. If I wanted an off the shelf bike today – I’d hands down get a super six. Go check em out.

    January 29, 2015 at 8:52 pm #828919
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    Ogi

    Hi Ben,
    If carbon is what
    Hi Ben,

    If carbon is what you’re after, the following might be worth looking:

    1) C’dale Supersix EVO as mentioned
    2) C’dale Synapse Carbon
    2) Specialised Tarmac
    3) Bianchi Intenso
    4) BMC Team machine SLR02
    5) BMC GF01 (2014)
    6) Cinelli Saetta
    7) De Rosa R838

    Of course, some are more racy while others more comfort oriented (GF01, Synapse, Intenso).

    Ogi

    January 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm #828917
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    runskiprun

    hahaha
    budget committee, also
    hahaha
    budget committee, also known as the War Office when she finds N+1??

    January 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm #828915
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    allanj

    (No subject)
    B-)

    January 29, 2015 at 4:06 pm #828913
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    Mrmiik

    allanj wrote:Please feel free
    B-) [quote=allanj]Please feel free to express an opinion

    I will too, and will put a little thing like this :& 🙂 :O 😕 :W :H afterwards to let you know that it’s not meant to be taken too seriously.

    B-)

    January 29, 2015 at 3:42 pm #828911
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    Man of Lard

    In some cases the choice of
    In some cases the choice of buying a bike with a view to upgrading parts of it is not down to any desire to save money, rather to outmanoeuvre the spousal eye of disapproval by sleight of hand – buy a cheaper bike, then slowly acquire the upgrades that would never have got past the budget committee in the first place.

    I know that’s how my bike purchase worked last time out. As the standard components wore out, they got replaced (and upgraded). CFO none the wiser.

    Sure it might have cost me a few quid more – but it sure is cheaper than a divorce 🙂

    January 29, 2015 at 2:48 pm #828909
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    allanj

    Please feel free to express
    Please feel free to express an opinion

    I will too, and will put a little thing like this :& 🙂 :O 😕 :W :H afterwards to let you know that it’s not meant to be taken too seriously.

    😀

    January 29, 2015 at 1:42 pm #828907
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    ricardogarlondez

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