Armstrong – “I’d do it again”

hsiaolc wrote:If you take

hsiaolc wrote:

If you take cash out of the sport or any then you won’t have much excitement left. Sad but that is reality. For all of them its all about the cash. Don’t make it sound as if he is the only one out there to get cash.

thats fine but then he just goes on about unable to raise cash for charity when Nike gave him 7M because he took a cut out of Livestrong …

My point is that there is never any true sign of contrition from him, it is all about cash. I watch those questions at the start of Oprah and there was no emotion there, no sign of wrong doing. It was like he was doing what he though he could do to get the min sentence and still it continues.

Those people above defending
Those people above defending simply never get it. Contrast his interview with Oprah where he refused to answer a question about Betsy to the Frost/Nixon interview.

In their own spheres they both did the same but one of them knew he had done wrong, he accepted he had and looked a broken man at the end. The other one still tries to justify his actions by saying ‘everyone was doing it’ when they were not.

If for one minute he showed some proper contrition and humility then maybe he can redeem himself. However by claiming all he wants to do is come back to race for charity in case his Mum gets ill is just sick.

The real big question is why that hospital room remains the big question for him. It is like he links his previous drug use to the cancer I think (some evidence to suggest that is true). Therefore it makes what he did afterwards even worse because he actually suffered the consequences of drug use and yet still carried own even more professionally and what for, at the end all he talks about is cash.

To be fair, he only gets
To be fair, he only gets battered with distain whenever he chooses to stick his head back into the public domain again. There is no correct number of times he has to say sorry before he is forgiven and has everything handed back to him. He’s lost that for good.

I don’t think he minds people hitting out at him all that much, to be honest. Most publicity is profitable publicity – kind or harsh – and I imagine he’s got a few bills to pay with the resulting cheques.

This way he can make a few people feel sorry for him, make some money, and still have some control over the public perception of him. Which must feel a lot more significant than aimlessly knocking a golf ball around.

He doesn’t need to bring his puppy-dog eyes back into the public spotlight; that’s his choice. So whatever reaction that brings, in my opinion, falls largely on his shoulders. If he’s willingly submitting himself to the words of others, he can’t really expect restraint.

HalfWheeler wrote:
First of

HalfWheeler wrote:

First of all he does refer to himself in the third person. Re-watch the interview, you must have missed it.

As for calling him a psychopath what I actually said was that he is fairly high on that spectrum (a spectrum that we are all on) but I’m not suggesting he’s Hannibal Lector.

As for not appreciating how he affected others, well…15 years of trashing other peoples reputations, 2 years of glib apologies and confessions and only when it became necessary. No wonder people think he’s dissembling, calculating and untrustworthy.

On the plus side I bet he’s never drowned one kitten.

I admit I’m kind of a fan boy of his once more, but not so much that I’d watch it again. If you say he referred to himself in the third person, I’ll believe you – but it must have only been once or twice out of the hundreds of times he referred to himself in the first person.

I’m actually beginning to feel sorry for the bloke. It appears that literally whatever he says is ‘wrong’. It must be exasperating for him.

‘It’s really easy for people
‘It’s really easy for people who weren’t in his position to claim the moral high ground and pretend they’d never do what he did’

it certainly is.

He actually said he ‘wouldn’t
He actually said he ‘wouldn’t have to’ cheat today, but would still do it back in 95. Today he would be good enough to be a clean elite athlete who is tested regularly. So he still would not have to make an active choice to be clean when given the choice.
Unlike some, the more I hear him speak the less I like him. he is a dissembler. His main reason to comeback from a competition ban is to raise money for charity, but he said what if I was raising money for my mother, if she got MS. You can say you don’t want for this to happen, but to use such a specific example is perverse, normal people just don’t mention such things let alone practice what to say.
He keeps throwing his family at us, or his charity work, or other riders. He still can’t understand why he was the biggest cheat, the biggest liar, the biggest bully and has the biggest punishment.
It was better when he was just a unrepentant liar.

And he looked unwell. He is either sick or they forgot to make him up for the studio lights.

HalfWheeler wrote:I do tire

HalfWheeler wrote:

I do tire of the ‘Lance is evil’ bandwagon but…

His whole tone speaks of someone who is fairly high up on the psychopathy spectrum; referring to himself in the third person, seeing himself as a victim, trying to absolve himself with shared guilt, not really appreciating how his actions affected others.

As for agreeing to the interview in the first place, that can be summed up thus; “notice me! notice me!

+1 – Hitler and the other Nazi war criminals were evil. LA may be a psychopath and he did ruin the lives and careers of others, but he didn’t actually murder anyone. Ignore him long enough and eventually he’ll go away.

You can’t help but like the
You can’t help but like the bloke.