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January 16, 2015 at 12:22 pm #23025
gdmor10
Is it worth the money?
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notfastenough
@casperccc a mate gave me a
@casperccc a mate gave me a Rapha musette as a thank you for a favour, and I figure it will be very useful to stock up at feedstations. That said, the event I have in mind is organized by Rapha, so maybe I’ll be ok there!Quince
Chasseur Patate
Chasseur Patate wrote:[quote=CasperCCC]I’ve got a fair few bits of kit from Rapha, and it’s all great. Comfortable, lasts well, and works well. It’s expensive, yeah, but if you spend enough time on the bike you get your money’s worth. And if you keep an eye on the sale then you can get it for a decent price. (Got a winter baselayer on the way – £40 for a merino baselayer isn’t too bad in my book.)To be honest, my biggest problem with Rapha is other people. There’s a lot of people who have a real issue with it. It’s so tied up with the whole Mamil, city-wanker thing that I feel really self-conscious wearing it.
Twice I’ve got snide comments from total strangers about wearing something by Rapha. (Both on the Dunwich Dynamo, as it goes.) No doubt that says more about them than me, but I wasn’t in the mood for getting grief from a random guy at five in the morning…
I still wear it – it’s too nice not to – but I wear it in spite of the fact it’s from Rapha, rather than because it’s from them. If I could buy a totally unbranded version then I reckon I’d own more of their kit than I do at the moment.
Ugh. I cannot get my head around people’s seemingly uncontrollable need to pass judgement on others’ kit, bike etc. These cretins are everywhere. https://patatechasseur.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/the-snobbery-complex/%5B/quote%5D
That was a good read. So much so that I told myself to f%&k off at the end of it. Which was oddly satisfying.
Leviathan
A very measured debate,
A very measured debate, strangely more restrained than those on the product review pages. I have noticed a strong correlation between those who own Rapha and say it is value for money and those who don’t own it and say it is not worth the money. Most people who buy Ferraris are quite happy with them even though there are plenty of cheaper cars.I personally am a fan of Castelli as I have been buying their kits since team ONCE days and they have innovative items like the San Remo. I took the ‘What kit you should buy’ test and it correctly guessed Castelli. So if you think it is city wankers who buy Rapha, then you are probably right, just be glad they are paying VAT. Stow your jealousy. Ride your bike.
lbuch
Softshell jacket – best
Softshell jacket – best softshell I’ve ever owned 🙂Manchestercyclist
I’ve got and wear in
I’ve got and wear in combination Rapha, dhb, castelli, campag, gore, aldi, lidl …They’re all got value, its just a question of how you ride, the aldi stuff can be a bit boil in the bag but great for commuting.
The Rapha is fantastic for long days in the saddle and several day tours because the merino stopped me stinking so much.
The dhb is somewhere in between.
I don’t regret any of the purchases, overall the best thing I ever bought was a gore windproof. Eight years of wear commuting all winter and a few other seasons too, and still in great condition.
Kapelmuur
My kit is mostly a mix of
My kit is mostly a mix of Aldi and vintage Flemish club jerseys off eBay, although I do have a Gabba jacket which is the best £100+ I’ve spent on bike clothing.However, the regular mentions of Rapha have piqued my curiosity, so if I was to buy one Rapha item what should it be?
Cyclist
Love Rapha, excellent kit.
Love Rapha, excellent kit. However I have just purchased a very fetching Castelli onsie… My two favourite brands.Flying Scot
I don’t like Rapha or DhB.
My
I don’t like Rapha or DhB.My favourite stuff was Campag, unfortunately it’s no more.
bashthebox
Honestly, it’s generally
Honestly, it’s generally snide people who either can’t afford it or who can’t conscience paying lots of money for the kit who get weirdly arsey about it. We all know Rapha kit is expensive; we all know Rapha kit is very good.
It looks ace on, and in fact my biggest problem with it right now is just how many people are out and about wearing the same kit every weekend. I’m a little bored of the stealth look, and though Rapha have branched out into some nice colours they’re still very plain. There’s pelotons of rather stylish but staid looking cyclists out there.
I save my ire for people wearing champions jerseys… but maybe this isn’t the time or the place to start this argument up again. Must be off, I’m off to run around the streets with my replica FA Cup.CasperCCC
notfastenough wrote:Wow, I’ve
notfastenough wrote:Wow, I’ve not had anything like that. I don’t even know how I would respond. What was said and how did you answer?The first time was at the Dynamo a few years ago. I’d taken along a musette that I’d got with a Rapha jersey – It’s just handy, because you can fill it with food and then just stick it in your jersey pocket when you’ve eaten everything.
We were hanging about outside the food stop, and a few guys were making general piss-taking comments about Rapha behind us. Thought it was just a coincidence until they started on Rapha musettes. It wasn’t malicious and, in fairness, they were pretty entertaining – I’d probably have laughed if I wasn’t the target. Totally ignored it.
The second time was at last year’s Dynamo. Was at one of the food stops that spring up after dawn. There was someone a few people ahead of me at the queue in a Rapha jersey, and another guy wandered through and said something like “Nice jersey – usually Rapha make shit clothes for wankers” to him, then nodded at me and added “No offense mate, but you know it’s true”. That was just a dick being a dick for the sake of it. I really don’t get the point of it.
Anyway, what can you say? I think I just said something like “Thanks for the fashion tip” and carried on queing for my bacon sarnie.
notfastenough wrote:Interestingly, my most expensive item of cycling clothing isn’t my Rapha stuff; it’s from Castelli, but no-one ever reports snide comments for wearing that…Heh. I was going to say exactly the same thing in my first post, but thought I’d probably waffled on long enough.
It doesn’t stop me from wearing Rapha – I reckon that I’ve got more use out of my gillet than I’ve got out of any other item of cycle clothing I’ve got, and my merino hat was my winter essential until my girlfriend “adopted” it. (That’s girlfriend for “steal”, obviously.) On offer for £15 at the moment, so I might give up all hope of getting it back and just buy another one.
Iamnot Wiggins
Sometimes I like to confuse
Sometimes I like to confuse people by combining my old DHB bibtights with my new Rapha tops and a battered pair of PRO overshoes.bdsl
It rather depends how much
It rather depends how much the money is worth to you, which is likely to depend on how well off you are and what other financial commitments you have. Without knowing that it’s impossible to say whether it’s worth the money.gdmor10
oh I have plenty kit – not
oh I have plenty kit – not missed a day commuting on my bike in 18 months, rain, hail or shine B-)notfastenough
CasperCCC wrote:I’ve got a
CasperCCC wrote:I’ve got a fair few bits of kit from Rapha, and it’s all great. Comfortable, lasts well, and works well. It’s expensive, yeah, but if you spend enough time on the bike you get your money’s worth. And if you keep an eye on the sale then you can get it for a decent price. (Got a winter baselayer on the way – £40 for a merino baselayer isn’t too bad in my book.)To be honest, my biggest problem with Rapha is other people. There’s a lot of people who have a real issue with it. It’s so tied up with the whole Mamil, city-wanker thing that I feel really self-conscious wearing it.
Twice I’ve got snide comments from total strangers about wearing something by Rapha. (Both on the Dunwich Dynamo, as it goes.) No doubt that says more about them than me, but I wasn’t in the mood for getting grief from a random guy at five in the morning…
I still wear it – it’s too nice not to – but I wear it in spite of the fact it’s from Rapha, rather than because it’s from them. If I could buy a totally unbranded version then I reckon I’d own more of their kit than I do at the moment.
Wow, I’ve not had anything like that. I don’t even know how I would respond. What was said and how did you answer?
Interestingly, my most expensive item of cycling clothing isn’t my Rapha stuff; it’s from Castelli, but no-one ever reports snide comments for wearing that…
thesaladdays
gdmor10 wrote:will take
gdmor10 wrote:will take another look at morvelo – wont be needing them for a while anyway, still a bit chilly!Sounds like you need some winter kit. Cycling in January can be quite nice (as long as the wind isn’t too mental)! 🙂
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