The Arms Race of Lights

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    middleagedmoaner

    Well I’m off the bikes due to a bout of man flu, so I thought I’d try and provoke some debate. My regular ride is a 13 mile town commute which I do at different hours of the day. This time of the year I’d typically wear a long sleeve high viz during the day, and a long sleeve all over reflective at night. Light wise, 300 lumens front, aimed at the ground about 12 feet in front of the bike, decent Cateye or Lezyne on the back with backup front/rear light on (white) helmet. Also a reflective backpack cover. So I like to be seen. However I’m not convinced about the usefulness of some of the 12 zillion candlepower strobing type front lights favoured by some. I’ve also held a full clean driving licence for longer than I care to remember, and often find that as a cyclist, motorist or pedestrian, when I see one of those lights, that is literally all I can see. I know there’s a light there, but I don’t know what’s behind it, and have to make a real effort to use peripheral vision to maintain awareness of other things/people/vehicles on the road. Without meaning to start a legal type argument which could go on and on, I’m reasonably sure that strobing lights aren’t legal on motor vehicles (except emergency vehicles). This must partly be because they cause dazzle. There’s probably an issue of alignment etc, and I’ve certainly noticed some cyclists with these powerful lights aimed straight ahead. I accept fully that it’s good to be seen, but it isn’t good for any road user to alienate another one by dazzling them, and perhaps thereby endangering an unsuspecting 3rd party. Go on then…

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    Yorkshie Whippet

    It’s a fine line between
    It’s a fine line between being bright enough to be seen and blinder the poor Bugga in the car. The line depends on whose being blinded or not. As a car driver I wonder how many riders actually check where the lights are pointing. There again I fail to understand why drivers insist on full beam/ fogs especially Chelsea tractor.

    I personally lean the bike up, walk away checking the view of the bike. Each day I see the two extremes, one mtber with lights on bars and helmet. Both aimed directly at drivers eyes. The other a little green dot visible from about 10m.

    In response to The Doctor, if other peoples safety is not your concern, why should your safety be anyone else concern?

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    ianrobo

    another example is if a car
    another example is if a car is behind you looking to over take then where possible you should make it easier for the car to do it as it means less risk to you if he/she tries to squeeze past.

    I dont do a lot of urban riding now but when I do I ride obviously away from the kerb but if I feel the person behind is impatient I will try and pull over safely to let them pass.

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    middleagedmoaner

    therevokid wrote:and the arse

    therevokid wrote:
    and the arse holes that insist on having their fog lights on …. ?

    quite…

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    mike the bike

    In theory Mr Moaner I’m with
    In theory Mr Moaner I’m with you on this one; over-bright lights that dazzle oncoming traffic are a pest.

    But many years of experience have taught me that some drivers’ brains are permanently in neutral and they will not register anything that doesn’t wake them from their torpor. If that means shining a little light into their world, regretfully, so be it.

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    therevokid

    and the arse holes that
    and the arse holes that insist on having their fog lights on …. ?

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