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  • September 25, 2014 at 9:08 am #22455
    profhillyard

    When will the riders on list be updated for the road race
    The list only has the tt riders at the moment?

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  • September 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm #815847
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    enrique

    Gkam84 wrote:I gave them the

    Gkam84 wrote:
    I gave them the points…

    enrique wrote:
    …the best possible team…
    Well, of course, this does change the ‘Best Possible Team’… :W It, of course, would have been damn near impossible to pick this team, but it does offer you the chance to put Valverde in there…

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    39.5 Michal Kwiatkowski
    40.0 Alejandro Valverde
    23.9 Simon Gerrans
    7.4 Matti Breschel
    21.4 Greg Van Avermaet
    4.8 Carlos Julian Quintero
    3.0 Zydrunas Savickas
    3.0 Matija Kvasina
    3.0 Oleksandr Polivoda

    This team would have come in at 146.0 credits and would have scored a massive 205 points, but who could have picked this team?… 😕

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    restriction on number of riders per team should be gone now
    I’m still curious if the Pole heavy team would have been viable, though… 😕

    September 30, 2014 at 1:17 pm #815845
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    enrique

    Gkam84 wrote:I gave them the

    Gkam84 wrote:
    I gave them the points to save any arguments…
    Thank you for taking the time to come back and explain that little mystery to us… It’s kind of interesting that you had such a kind motivation but then don’t seem to realize that you could potentially confuse people by stating one thing but scoring a different way… It seems a little odd… Not your motivation, but the fact that it didn’t come accross your mind to explain it… Maybe you were too busy… But it is a simple little explanation really… Very nice of you to share it…

    September 29, 2014 at 9:19 pm #815843
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    Gkam84

    I gave them the points to
    I gave them the points to save any arguments, seems it caused more.

    I have’t spoken to Dave, he was going to be scoring these races and I noticed that they hadn’t been scored, so I took it upon myself to score them, as Dave would have. So until I hear anything more, those breakaway points will stand.

    Against what I believe should be scored.

    September 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm #815841
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    enrique

    cgipryan wrote:… I… think

    cgipryan wrote:
    … I… think breakaway guys… should be scored even if they don’t finish…
    Don’t get me wrong, I actually agree with your points… I just wanted to know if the breakaway riders were given those points unintenionally, because no one noticed that the breakaway riders didn’t finish the race, or whether the person who scored the race (Gkam?) had a change of heart about the scoring rules after posting his point of view… or maybe he was informed the breakaway riders should be scored in a different manner than he believed?… 😕 I don’t know… I’m not necessarily advocating to have those points removed, I just think it would be nice to know if it was an inadvertant mistake, because they didn’t notice Kvasina, Savickas, Polivoda and Quintero did not finish the race, or a simple unintentional misunderstanding of the rules or an unintentionally mistaken statement about the scoring rules for breakaway riders…

    September 29, 2014 at 5:10 pm #815839
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    cgipryan

    Guys, I had Kvasina from the
    Guys, I had Kvasina from the break, so you might say I’m biased. But I only finished 12th in the competition and, without Kvasina’s points, I would have been 30th or something. It’s pretty much the same thing for me, honestly.
    But I do think breakaway guys (in general, not just in this race) should be scored even if they don’t finish. Those four guys buried themselves upfront all day long, in a miserable weather. That should be rewarded in the game too, I think.

    September 29, 2014 at 3:12 pm #815837
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    enrique

    Joelsim wrote:That’s what it

    Joelsim wrote:
    That’s what it says further up this thread…
    That’s what I understood, too… 😕

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    From what Gkam wrote:
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    Gkam84 wrote:
    … the breakaway points as far as I know are still they HAVE to finish the race… any group of 10 or under wi[th] a minute lead at the half way point will get 10 points, IF those riders finish..

    and

    Gkam84 wrote:
    … the team bonus doesn’t matter if they finish… [b]reakaway is different

    I understood Kvasina, Savickas, Polivoda or Quintero wouldn’t get any points… 😕

    I’d think Gkam scored this race… 😕 It makes me wonder if it’s an inadvertant mistake by Gkam in the scoring or if Gkam reversed course on his understanding of the scoring or if someone else did the scoring with a different understanding of the scoring or if Gkam was confused about the scoring or if Gkam was notified his understanding of the scoring was not ‘correct’ or if it was late at night and Gkam was tired and didn’t notice Kvasina, Savickas, Polivoda and Quintero didn’t finish the race or if Gkam got an email from Dave ‘clarifying’ the scoring before he actually did the scoring or maybe they finished the race and the organizers reported it wrongly… :W

    September 29, 2014 at 11:36 am #815835
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    Joelsim

    enrique wrote:Gkam84

    enrique wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    Matija Kvasina DS World Champs 10
    Gkam84 wrote:
    … the breakaway points as far as I know are still they HAVE to finish the race… any group of 10 or under wi[th] a minute lead at the half way point will get 10 points, IF those riders finish..
    I don’t think Kvasina, Savickas, Polivoda or Quintero finished the race… Why would they get the 10 points each?… :?

    That’s what it says further up this thread. Very strange.

    September 29, 2014 at 10:32 am #815833
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    ruicarvalho

    My first competition win!
    My first competition win! B-)
    Last minute changes paid off…changed Costa and Kristoff for Kwiatkowski and breschel.
    It´s been a good end of season for me, winning San Sebastian, Worlds Team Time Trial and Road Race. Also secured 3rd place overall in “Overall purist (non premium races)”. Maybe if I hadn´t missed one Womans race I could fight for the overall win in Lombadia.
    Still a very good year…

    September 29, 2014 at 12:26 am #815831
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    enrique

    Gkam84 wrote:Matija Kvasina

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Matija Kvasina DS World Champs 10
    Gkam84 wrote:
    … the breakaway points as far as I know are still they HAVE to finish the race… any group of 10 or under wi[th] a minute lead at the half way point will get 10 points, IF those riders finish..
    I don’t think Kvasina, Savickas, Polivoda or Quintero finished the race… Why would they get the 10 points each?… 😕

    September 28, 2014 at 10:43 pm #815829
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    Gkam84

    Winner today
    BINOS PRO
    Winner today

    BINOS PRO CYCLING: ruicarvalho

    Simon Gerrans AR Orica Greenedge 40
    Michal Kwiatkowski AR Omega Pharma – Quick-Step 50
    Georgios Bouglas DS World Champs 0
    Greg Van Avermaet AR BMC Racing Team 20
    Alejandro Valverde AR Movistar 30
    Grega Bole DS World Champs 0
    Alexandr Kolobnev DS Team Katusha 0
    Matija Kvasina DS World Champs 10
    Matti Breschel DS Team Tinkoff-Saxo 25

    Also, by scoring 175, they climbed 35 places into 1st place and won the overall

    1 BINOS PRO CYCLING ruicarvalho 451
    2 Gmancervelo (Purist) Gmancervelo 427
    3 BJP Racing Team Ben Phippen 421

    September 28, 2014 at 10:33 pm #815827
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    MartyMcCann

    Him Up North wrote:I’m seeing

    Him Up North wrote:
    I’m seeing the road race as not yet being scored. Is this the case or have I cocked something up?

    No you haven’t- as it stands (11:30pm) it hasn’t been updated- those posting above have worked their own scores out- I don’t trust my own maths to do that myself so will be waiting until the update happens.

    September 28, 2014 at 10:24 pm #815825
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    Him Up North

    I’m seeing the road race as
    I’m seeing the road race as not yet being scored. Is this the case or have I cocked something up?

    September 28, 2014 at 8:10 pm #815823
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    enrique

    cgipryan wrote:Damn, just

    cgipryan wrote:
    Damn, just 2,3,5,6 for me. I had Breschel and Colbrelli too, until this morning…
    You would have had 141 points… I’m still curious to see if anyone matched Kwiatkowski and a string of the Top 20 to see the highest score… 😕

    September 28, 2014 at 8:05 pm #815821
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    enrique

    Dave Atkinson

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    restriction on number of riders per team should be gone now
    Does that mean we could have had a Polish heavy team, like the one below? This would have been the best possible team today… But it has 3 Poles on it… I guess none of the breakaway riders get any points ’cause they didn’t finish, did they?… 😕

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    39.5 Michal Kwiatkowski
    23.9 Simon Gerrans
    21.4 Greg Van Avermaet
    19.6 Tony Gallopin
    18.3 Philippe Gilbert
    13.2 Maciej Paterski
    7.4 Matti Breschel
    3.0 Michal Podlaski
    3.0

    If viable, this team would have come in at 149.3 credits and would have scored 184 points.

    September 28, 2014 at 7:38 pm #815819
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    cgipryan

    Yup, I always avoid last
    Yup, I always avoid last minute changes. Not this time though, it must be end-of-the-season nervousness…

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