Great shared cycle path network in Edinburgh, shame about the cyclists.

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    Maximo

    We are very lucky in Edinburgh to have cycle paths that effectively circumnavigate the city – keeping us away from notoriously bad Edinburgh drivers (reflected in the number of per capita cyclist accidents). However, these cycle paths are shared paths, with pedestrians. They are used by school children and adults as convenient, pleasant short cuts and dog walkers enjoying a sniff of nature within the city centre. I am increasingly of the opinion that cyclists consider these paths to be their personal highways around the city, not as shared paths. What we now have is a dangerous mix of (fast, Strava medal-pursuing) cyclists, pedestrians and dogs.

    I cycle a total of 20km or so, mostly on the path, every day to and from work (with my Strava on). I also use the path to walk my daughter to school (with my Strava off): the entrance to the school is immediately off steps climbing from a bend in the path (with restricted view, I would argue) and is well used by pupils and parents at peak commuter time in the morning.

    In the last few days I have witnessed one bicycle turning off at a blind junction close to the school (again well used by children) at a hurtling speed without use of a bell to warn of his arrival: nearly running over a 5/6 year old girl, her sister and mother and another ridden by a self-styled ‘pro cyclist’ overtaking around the aforementioned bend at speed (if you were on a road there would be double white lines on it). I’m sorry, but I do tend to comment when I see this: ‘Slow down.’, ‘Ring your bell.’. Maybe I shouldn’t, and it doesn’t achieve much: the normal reaction is ‘f$%£ off, you ponce’ or ‘you are a c*&k’ (??). Though, my personal favourite is ‘I don’t have a bell!’ (…well get one!). However, I have seen too many cyclists nearly hit pedestrians, children especially, so forgive me for being verbal.

    We are going to start campaigning with the schools whose pupils use the shared path to lobby the council for signage and perhaps separation of cycles and pedestrians on certain parts of the path. I would hope to gain a lot of support for this from the parents who frequently share their ‘near miss’ or ‘foul mouthed’ incident reports. Maybe we also need to involve the police and other institutions on the cycle path (leisure centres, shopping centres).

    I would, in the meantime, appeal to those Edinburgh cyclists who use the paths, who ride fast or slow, to use their bell (or get one to use!) when passing pedestrians and overtaking other cyclists and ahead of passing or turning at blind junctions. Also don’t take unnecessary risks or ride too fast. Also, be a little more courteous – stop swearing in front of kids!

    Apologies if I sound a ‘nimby’ or a ‘c*&k’ (??!), but shared cycle paths aren’t the autostrada on the Milano-San Remo.

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    bikebot

    It might also be worth having
    It might also be worth having a word the the Police. If these are regular commuters, using the same route every day, it’s an easy win for them to plonk a copper somewhere around that blind corner one morning to welcome them for a word of advice.

    Unfortunately, cyclists are exactly the same as any group of road users, there’s a proportion that do stupid things when there’s zero risk of being caught. See if you can make it less than zero risk.

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    mrmo

    and this is the crux of the
    and this is the crux of the problem in my opinion. Shared use paths are a bad idea. Bikes and cars don’t mix brilliantly but bikes and pedestrians is IMO an even worse mix, and if you throw in dogs and kids!!!!!

    If you are creating leisure routes fine, but as soon as you have people trying to get to work/home doing the shopping etc, people will want to get around reasonably quickly. If the path creates conflict it is a bad path.

    We all accept speed bumps exist because car drivers can not be trusted to slow down, people are people, do we really think that without real design there won’t be conflict and excessive speeds on smooth wide shared use paths???

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    Paul_C

    General advice is that if you
    General advice is that if you need to travel faster than 15 mph, then you shouldn’t be on the shared use path… most surfaces are too lumpy/rough for me to travel faster than this in Gloucester anyway…

    I do believe you can check Strava and flag sections which shouldn’t be part of any section… but that apparently requires you creating an account in the first place…

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    efail

    Which ‘cock’ has a Strava
    Which ‘cock’ has a Strava segment on a cycle path? Can’t they be classed as too dangerous?

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    truffy

    You don’t sound like a cock
    You don’t sound like a cock (at least to me), but inconsiderate cocks like that give all cyclists a bad name. Overtaking on a blind corner is as dumb as rocks (I was almost taken out the other day by a cyclist overtaking while approaching a blind corner from the opposite direction).

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