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  • July 30, 2014 at 9:03 pm #22031
    Morgan700cc

    Help! There’s probably an easy solution that I haven’t thought of, but how can I attach a bottle cage to my lovely old 1982 Peugeot roadie that has no braze on mounts. I don’t want to drill the frame if at all possible, so can you attach a cage without making holes?

    Thanks in advance, Morgan

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  • August 19, 2014 at 9:23 am #806881
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    farrell

    Dragging up another old
    Dragging up another old thread but I came across this little item this morning and was quite impressed by it:

    http://cyclr.com/journal/2014/08/18/preview-porta-bottiglia-bottle-holder/

    A tad more expensive that the other options but if you have a couple of bikes without cage mount, or you want to be able to switch your water bottle from your bike to your bag it could be useful.

    August 6, 2014 at 2:35 pm #806879
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    bigshape

    paulrbarnard wrote:
    drop of

    paulrbarnard wrote:

    drop of super glue on the outside of the insert (don’t put the bolt in!!). Glue will wick in and give enough grip to re clench the insert with a bolt. Much better than trying to jimmy it with a screw driver or other scratchy thing

    cheers for the suggestion, but unfortunately i think the inserts are cross threaded as well (judging on when i managed to remove the old bolts…) so even if i did manage to glue them back in place they’d still be useless…

    August 5, 2014 at 9:28 pm #806877
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    Morgan700cc

    Update: I have ties, bottle
    Update: I have ties, bottle and cage now. Setting them up tomorrow, then off for a ride! Thanks for all the help folks!

    August 4, 2014 at 9:22 pm #806875
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    paulrbarnard

    Derny wrote:Sometimes it’s

    Derny wrote:
    Sometimes it’s possible to re-tighten a loose insert by threading a bolt (plus washer) into the insert without the cage being present, and then doing something to arrest the rotation of the insert, jamming a screwdriver under the washer as you tighten, so the insert is pulled upwards against the inside of the tube and crushed a bit more by tightening the bolt. If it’s too far gone it may be a lost cause.

    drop of super glue on the outside of the insert (don’t put the bolt in!!). Glue will wick in and give enough grip to re clench the insert with a bolt. Much better than trying to jimmy it with a screw driver or other scratchy thing

    August 4, 2014 at 4:18 pm #806873
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    Anonymous

    Sometimes it’s possible to
    Sometimes it’s possible to re-tighten a loose insert by threading a bolt (plus washer) into the insert without the cage being present, and then doing something to arrest the rotation of the insert, jamming a screwdriver under the washer as you tighten, so the insert is pulled upwards against the inside of the tube and crushed a bit more by tightening the bolt. If it’s too far gone it may be a lost cause.

    August 4, 2014 at 4:08 pm #806871
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    bigshape

    Derny wrote:If you don’t like

    Derny wrote:
    If you don’t like the look of the cage clamps, a better fix is available by drilling out the faulty threads and replacing it with a “rivnut” (a.k.a. “nutsert”)

    i was going to do this, but the current threaded inserts are loose in the frame, and i think they’d just spin in place if i tried to drill them out…

    August 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm #806869
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    Anonymous

    If you don’t like the look of
    If you don’t like the look of the cage clamps, a better fix is available by drilling out the faulty threads and replacing it with a “rivnut” (a.k.a. “nutsert”). It’s essentially the same way manufacturers put threaded inserts in aluminum frames. When I worked in bikes shops 25 years ago this was a pretty common repair on aluminium frames, usually due to over-tightening. At the time there was not much rigor around following torque specs, and small torque wrenches for home users were not generally available, thus the old saw: “tighten ’til it strips, then back off a quarter turn”.

    August 4, 2014 at 12:55 pm #806867
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    bigshape

    just strapped a couple of the
    just strapped a couple of the halfwits ones on my allez (with ruined bottle mounts thanks to previous owner…)
    they look a bit poop (straps around the tube) but should do the job.

    July 31, 2014 at 2:03 pm #806865
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    Morgan700cc

    Thanks Farrell! I popped in
    Thanks Farrell! I popped in this morning and got some. Setting up on the morrow for another ride.

    July 31, 2014 at 7:44 am #806863
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    farrell

    I got mine from Halfords
    I got mine from Halfords (although they may be available elsewhere):
    http://www.halfords.com/cycling/accessories/water-bottles-hydration-packs/elite-water-bottle-cage-strips

    They’re cheap and have worked really well for me.

    July 31, 2014 at 4:44 am #806861
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    Morgan700cc

    Brilliant! Thanks for all
    Brilliant! Thanks for all your help and suggestions chaps. Will be whizzing past my local bike shop/Halfords later today. I’d like to get my bike back to an older, more traditional set up, so these are great tips.

    July 31, 2014 at 12:58 am #806859
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    Anonymous

    These are the bottle cage
    These are the bottle cage clamps which would be traditional for your bike:

    http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/water-bottles-cages/bottle-cage-clamp.html

    July 30, 2014 at 10:12 pm #806857
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    Flying Scot

    I use the tacx thing that
    I use the tacx thing that attaches to the saddle rails and takes 2 holders, bottles tend to fly out, but I have specially modified carbon ones with elastic that solves that.

    They take a battering with rough roads, 750ml bottles and skinny tyres, if you do this, (they’re cheap) buy 2 as the joint can snap after 18 months or so.

    I’ve tried alternatives, tacx is the best and keeps a vintage frame ‘real’ as the classic guys had the bottles on the bars.

    July 30, 2014 at 9:35 pm #806855
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    dave atkinson

    Zefal’s Gizmo is worth
    Zefal’s Gizmo is worth looking at too

    July 30, 2014 at 9:28 pm #806853
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    bikebot

    I’ve used one of these on my
    I’ve used one of these on my slightly knackered local runaround. I think I actually found it in TK Maxx for a pound or two! The clamp works well compared to zip ties, but mind the paintwork (use a bit of inner tube or something).

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