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June 10, 2014 at 6:52 pm #21653
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http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/10-06-2014/froome-ha-l-asma-usa-spray-sin-bambino-80886387806.shtml
Interesting story on La Gazzetta.
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meh i use both a preventer
meh i use both a preventer and reliever inhaler… I have quite bad asthma and mine is genetic..runs in the male line….
Im not going to comment on the Frome thing but i will say the many people are on the wrong meds or dont take them properly which leads to a large number of unnecessary deaths.giobox
madonepro wrote:daddyELVIS
madonepro wrote:daddyELVIS wrote:giobox wrote:This appears to be another classic sky PR mess. If they’d been upfront about Froome needing an inhaler this would be a non-story. Surely it was predictable a TV camera would eventually catch sight of him using it? Why not get out in front of the story before it happens?More to the point, why has Walsh missed this one? Oh, I think I know the answer to that!
Enlighten us all Mr armchair director sportif!
It’s a non story, for years asthmatics have not required a TUE for there inhalers. But if you were all as smart as informed as you proport to be you’d know that.
If all you do is negativity piss off to football.
Surely a little rich to accuse others of negativity, then ask them to “piss off to football”? Also, if you are going to use fancy french cycling terms like directeur sportif to make you look like you know what you are talking about it helps when you can spell.
Given how well documented Froome’s other medical conditions are, it is a little strange that this one came out of the blue. With Sky’s past experience with the media, it’s a bit of an own goal that they didn’t just come out and tell us before this had a chance to become a headline. Then again, given our past experience with Sky’s PR mishaps, perhaps it’s not so surprising this has happened. This story was entirely predictable, and could have been easily disarmed by just telling people Froome needs an inhaler before it was broadcast on TV.
As for your assertion it’s a “non-story”, that’s evidently wrong. We are commenting on it on a cycling news website.
Stumps
leqin wrote:stumps wrote:Hi
leqin wrote:stumps wrote:Hi everyone, i got a blister from going hiking in the wrong socks, just thought i would let everyone know, just for transparency ;)So is that a blister induced by your overuse of EPO, or is it a real sock induced blister – because I don’t think your being transparent enough for this forum.
Lol, you’ve caught me out !
leqin
stumps wrote:Hi everyone, i
stumps wrote:Hi everyone, i got a blister from going hiking in the wrong socks, just thought i would let everyone know, just for transparency ;)So is that a blister induced by your overuse of EPO, or is it a real sock induced blister – because I don’t think your being transparent enough for this forum.
Notsofast
As a kid I was prescribed
As a kid I was prescribed ventolin, I’d get wheezy in sports but never suffered any life threatening attacks.
As an adult I stopped needing it until I resumed cycling, 95% of the time I’m fine, but just now and then if I put in an early effort or silly signpost sprint I can be left with a lung ache for the next hour or two even doing a 70% effort when this happens is my new 100%.daddyELVIS
madonepro wrote:
But unlikemadonepro wrote:
But unlike you, I know what medication comes packaged in inhalers, if you people want to insinuate, get your facts right, or get a life…Great, can you tell me exactly what was in Froome’s inhaler?
madonepro
daddyELVIS wrote:madonepro
daddyELVIS wrote:madonepro wrote:daddyELVIS wrote:giobox wrote:This appears to be another classic sky PR mess. If they’d been upfront about Froome needing an inhaler this would be a non-story. Surely it was predictable a TV camera would eventually catch sight of him using it? Why not get out in front of the story before it happens?More to the point, why has Walsh missed this one? Oh, I think I know the answer to that!
Enlighten us all Mr armchair director sportif!
It’s a non story, for years asthmatics have not required a TUE for there inhalers. But if you were all as smart as informed as you proport to be you’d know that.
If all you do is negativity piss off to football.
Correct, below 1,600 micrograms for Salbutamol, above that dose in 24 hours then its a controlled substance – I think it can be used for both a performance enhancement and masking purposes. However, this doesn’t get away from the debate around whether asthma in the peloton should be a prevalent as it is thought to be!
But, you’re missing the point – the point is: does Froome really have asthma given that its never been mentioned previously? – I believe in his book he explains how he is susceptible to coughs and colds a lot due to his blood parasite condition, but never mentions asthma.
The Walsh reference relates to the fact that he is the ghost-writer of Froome’s book, plus has been planted in Sky for various periods and also penned a book about Sky and various press articles! Again, he’s never once mentioned Froome’s asthma. To some, Walsh is starting to look like a Sky-controlled media outlet! I’m not saying he is, but it all looks a bit cosy!
Regarding not needing a TUE, you are assuming that it was Salbutamol in the inhaler!
Now, if Sky were ever as transparent as they said they would be, we’d already know about Froome’s asthma and then I agree, this would be a non-issue.
Their lack of transparency (whilst claiming the opposite) together with their record of not quite telling the truth until they really had to, makes this a real issue!
But unlike you, I know what medication comes packaged in inhalers, if you people want to insinuate, get your facts right, or get a life…
northstar
apologists everywhere….as
apologists everywhere….as per usual ; )Stumps
Hi everyone, i got a blister
Hi everyone, i got a blister from going hiking in the wrong socks, just thought i would let everyone know, just for transparency 😉Martyn_K
Bored of this now.
As with
Bored of this now.As with everything in life there are numerous viewpoints ranging from fully supportive and trusting to negative and looking for cheats.
Unbelievable rumours of conspiracy do nobody any good.
Anyway i gotta go. The aliens are coming to take over the world and Elvis is playing a farewell gig in Bournemouth.
mikecassie
I can’t see what the big deal
I can’t see what the big deal is , he took a puff on an inhaler in full view of the media, fans and others during a race. It’s not like he had the inhaler couriered hundreds of miles to an isolated hotel for it to be taken in a locked room is it. 😉Chris James
daddyELVIS wrote:
And yet hedaddyELVIS wrote:
And yet he (and his team) failed to recognise the importance of transparency around Froome’s asthma? Does Petacchi’s ban not ring any bells for them as to why this could be important? ..
That’s why I’m not a Sky fan.
WADA have completely changed the rules around Salbutamol since Petacchi’s ban – in recognition that Salbutamol isn’t performance enhancing for anyone who hasn’t got asthma, and for asthmatics it is medicinal. That’s why you don’t even need a TUE for it any more.If it wasn’t salbutamol in the inhaler but another banned substance then he will get tested anyway as leader of the Dauphine. You seem to think the fact he took something openly somehow makes it more suspicious that doing it behind closed doors?
I’m not a Sky fan either. Or a Froome fan.
madonepro wrote:daddyELVIS
madonepro wrote:daddyELVIS wrote:giobox wrote:This appears to be another classic sky PR mess. If they’d been upfront about Froome needing an inhaler this would be a non-story. Surely it was predictable a TV camera would eventually catch sight of him using it? Why not get out in front of the story before it happens?More to the point, why has Walsh missed this one? Oh, I think I know the answer to that!
Enlighten us all Mr armchair director sportif!
It’s a non story, for years asthmatics have not required a TUE for there inhalers. But if you were all as smart as informed as you proport to be you’d know that.
If all you do is negativity piss off to football.
Correct, below 1,600 micrograms for Salbutamol, above that dose in 24 hours then its a controlled substance – I think it can be used for both a performance enhancement and masking purposes. However, this doesn’t get away from the debate around whether asthma in the peloton should be a prevalent as it is thought to be!
But, you’re missing the point – the point is: does Froome really have asthma given that its never been mentioned previously? – I believe in his book he explains how he is susceptible to coughs and colds a lot due to his blood parasite condition, but never mentions asthma.
The Walsh reference relates to the fact that he is the ghost-writer of Froome’s book, plus has been planted in Sky for various periods and also penned a book about Sky and various press articles! Again, he’s never once mentioned Froome’s asthma. To some, Walsh is starting to look like a Sky-controlled media outlet! I’m not saying he is, but it all looks a bit cosy!
Regarding not needing a TUE, you are assuming that it was Salbutamol in the inhaler!
Now, if Sky were ever as transparent as they said they would be, we’d already know about Froome’s asthma and then I agree, this would be a non-issue.
Their lack of transparency (whilst claiming the opposite) together with their record of not quite telling the truth until they really had to, makes this a real issue!
daddyELVIS wrote:giobox
daddyELVIS wrote:giobox wrote:This appears to be another classic sky PR mess. If they’d been upfront about Froome needing an inhaler this would be a non-story. Surely it was predictable a TV camera would eventually catch sight of him using it? Why not get out in front of the story before it happens?More to the point, why has Walsh missed this one? Oh, I think I know the answer to that!
Enlighten us all Mr armchair director sportif!
It’s a non story, for years asthmatics have not required a TUE for there inhalers. But if you were all as smart as informed as you proport to be you’d know that.
If all you do is negativity piss off to football.
giobox wrote:This appears to
giobox wrote:This appears to be another classic sky PR mess. If they’d been upfront about Froome needing an inhaler this would be a non-story. Surely it was predictable a TV camera would eventually catch sight of him using it? Why not get out in front of the story before it happens?More to the point, why has Walsh missed this one? Oh, I think I know the answer to that!
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