Dauphine Purist and Standard Dream Teams

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    enrique

    An interesting race to calculate these for… And just to see if substituting lesser value riders for the higher value riders works day day…

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    enrique

    Obviusly in the above
    Obviusly in the above scenario Contador, Wilkerman, Talansky, De Marchi, Van Den Broeck, Trofimov and Boeckmans stay in the whole race, but 😕 wow… I’m pretty sure there are thousands upon thousands of combinations that you could consider… 😕

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    enrique

    Twybaydos wrote:Now please

    Twybaydos wrote:
    Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points….

    Well… 😕 Here’s a preliminary shot at what could have been the highest scoring Standard (Non Purist) Team… There’s so many ways this could be done… 😕 The first graphic shows the teams with the active riders on that stage showing a checkmark… The 2nd one shows the points they would have scored on each stage… This particular scenario would have yielded 1465 points, if my calculations are correct… 😕

    The “Actual’ Best Team – Rich’s Rouleurs (Kingrolo) scored 936 points….

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    enrique

    Twybaydos wrote:Thanks for

    Twybaydos wrote:
    Thanks for showing this…

    You’re welcome…

    Twybaydos wrote:
    Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points. It’s all well and good showing your highest scoring team in stage 3, but seeing as none of them scored on stage 2 it is somewhat irrelevant…

    My start to solve that puzzle would be the ‘Best Purist Team’ which I have above and which is displayed in the image below… I’d probably have to then switch riders 2 a day seeking the best scoring riders each day that I could swap making only two transfers a day… 😕 See for yourself below…

    Twybaydos wrote:
    I think Trofimov, Westra and VDB are likely to be in it a lot. The rest is puzzling
    I think you’re absolutely right that Trofimov and Van Den Broucke and Westra would make that list since they made the ‘Best Purist Team’… Obviously, riders like Boeckmans would have to be transfered out some days to get the most bang for your buck for a Standard (Non-Purist Team), you’d have to start probably with Jungels on Stage 1, bring in Arndt and Van Rensburg for Stage 3, etc… but the ‘Best Purist Team’ is probably the basis to work out what you’re thinking about…

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    The image below shows you the ‘Dream Team’ and below it the 2 riders you could transfer in each stage to maximize your points… I haven’t done the math(s) to figure out what that team would score with those transfers, but I think it more or less paints the picture as to what is possible…

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    enrique

    Top 10 Highest Stage Scores
    Top 10 Highest Stage Scores Dauphine 2014
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra 58
    20.6 Jan Bakelants 56
    10.0 Yury Trofimov 53
    14.5 Egor Silin 53
    40.0 Christopher Froome 51
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman 47
    32.5 Alberto Contador 43
    14.7 Simon Spilak 42
    11.9 Bob Jungels 38
    12.5 Nikias Arndt 37

    Top 10 Best Value Riders Dauphine 2014

    10.0 Yury Trofimov Team Katusha 116 11.6
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Lotto Belisol 120 11.4
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra Astana 95 8.6
    3.0 Alexis Gougeard AG2R La Mondiale 25 8.3
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman Belkin Pro Cycling 220 8.2
    21.8 Andrew Talansky Garmin Sharp 169 7.8
    14.3 Alessandro De Marchi Cannondale 92 6.4
    32.5 Alberto Contador Team Tinkoff-Saxo 200 6.2
    3.0 Natnael Berhane Team Europcar 18 6.0
    5.3 Gustav Larsson IAM Cycling 30 5.7

    Highest Scoring Riders Not Selected By Any Team When They Were Part of the Stage Dream Team:

    Stage 2
    Alessandro De Marchi 0%
    Stage 4
    Pim Ligthart 0%
    Stage 7
    Egor Silin 0%
    Stage 8
    Kristijan Koren 0%

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    enrique

    Dauphine ‘Within Budget’ Best
    Dauphine ‘Within Budget’ Best Purist Team Possible:

    32.5 Alberto Contador
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    14.5 Egor Silin
    14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
    10.0 Yury Trofimov
    8.0 Kris Boeckmans
    Total Budget 149.4 Score: 1122

    *Note no Froome and NO (!) 3.0 riders! 🙂

    Best ‘Actual’ Purist Team:

    40.0 Christopher Froome
    32.5 Alberto Contador
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    20.6 Jan Bakelants
    14.7 Simon Spilak
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
    3.9 Edward Beltran
    3.0 Natnael Berhane

    Total Budget 147.0 Score: 871 points
    Team: Rouse’s Roulers (rerouse2)

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    enrique

    Percent of Teams that chose
    Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 8 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team riders:

    Wilco Kelderman 51%
    Romain Bardet 6%
    Adam Yates 31%
    Andrew Talansky 43%
    Mikel Nieve 1%
    John Gadret 1%
    Jurgen Van Den Broeck 50%
    Kristijan Koren 0%
    Alexis Gougeard 24%

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    enrique

    Stage 8 ‘Within Budget’ Dream
    Stage 8 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team

    26.8 Wilco Kelderman
    22.5 Romain Bardet
    21.9 Adam Yates
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    19.2 Mikel Nieve
    14.3 John Gadret
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
    8.9 Kristijan Koren
    3.0 Alexis Gougeard
    Budget 148.9 credits Score: 289 points

    Best ‘Actual’ Team

    32.5 Alberto Contador
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman
    22.5 Romain Bardet
    21.9 Adam Yates
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
    5.3 Gustav Larsson
    3.0 Alexis Gougeard
    3.0 Alexander Rybakov

    Budget 147.3 credits Score: 235 points
    Team: Kolovrat (Kolovrat)

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    Twybaydos

    Thanks for showing this. Now
    Thanks for showing this. Now please work out a best team within budget for the whole competition using only available transfers without penalty points. It’s all well and good showing your highest scoring team in stage 3, but seeing as none of them scored on stage 2 it is somewhat irrelevant

    I think Trofimov, Westra and VDB are likely to be in it a lot. The rest is puzzling

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    enrique

    Percent of Teams that chose
    Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 7 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team riders:

    Alberto Contador 85%
    Ryder Hesjedal 4%
    Andrew Talansky 34%
    Egor Silin 0%
    Alessandro De Marchi 10%
    Matthias Brandle 5%
    Lieuwe Westra 8%
    Yury Trofimov 5%
    Kris Boeckmans 5%

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    enrique

    Stage 7 ‘Within Budget’ Dream
    Stage 7 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team
    32.5 Alberto Contador
    23.0 Ryder Hesjedal
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    14.5 Egor Silin
    14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
    12.6 Matthias Brandle
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra
    10.0 Yury Trofimov
    8.0 Kris Boeckmans
    Total Budget 147.7 Score 314 points

    Best ‘Actual’ Team

    40.0 Christopher Froome
    21.9 Adam Yates
    21.8 Andrew Talansky
    14.3 Alessandro De Marchi
    12.5 Kevin Reza
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra
    10.5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck
    10.0 Yury Trofimov
    8.0 Kris Boeckmans
    Total Budget 150.0 Score 224 points

    Team caul pope (caul pope)

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    enrique

    Percent of Teams that chose
    Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 6 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team riders:

    Wilco Kelderman 41%
    Zdenek Stybar 4%
    Jan Bakelants 8%
    Jens Voigt 4%
    Thomas Damuseau 2%
    Pim Ligthart 1%
    Jens Keukeleire 2%
    Lieuwe Westra 9%
    Bram Tankink 3%

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    enrique

    Stage 6
    26.8 Wilco

    Stage 6
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman
    22.5 Zdenek Stybar
    20.6 Jan Bakelants
    18.8 Jens Voigt
    16.5 Thomas Damuseau
    14.3 Pim Ligthart
    11.3 Jens Keukeleire
    11.0 Lieuwe Westra
    6.5 Bram Tankink
    148.3 Score 236 points

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    enrique

    Percent of Teams that chose
    Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 4 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team riders:

    Jan Bakelants 7%
    Peter Velits 1%
    Damiano Caruso 1%
    Pim Ligthart 0%
    Maxime Bouet 1%
    Yury Trofimov 1%
    Christian Meier 3%
    Lars Petter Nordhaug 4%
    Gustav Larsson 18%

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    enrique

    Stage 4
    20.6 Jan

    Stage 4

    20.6 Jan Bakelants
    15.0 Peter Velits
    14.5 Damiano Caruso
    14.3 Pim Ligthart
    11.6 Maxime Bouet
    10.0 Yury Trofimov
    8.7 Christian Meier
    8.3 Lars Petter Nordhaug
    5.3 Gustav Larsson
    Total Budget 108.3 credits Score: 239 points

    Highest ‘Actual’ Score: Phasing (Phasing)

    40.0 Christopher Froome
    32.5 Alberto Contador
    26.8 Wilco Kelderman
    12.5 Nikias Arndt
    12.5 Kevin Reza
    10.0 Yury Trofimov
    5.3 Gustav Larsson
    3.1 Kristijan Durasek
    3.0 Valerio Conti

    Score: 127 points

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    enrique

    Percent of Teams that chose
    Percent of Teams that chose the Stage 3 ‘Within Budget’ Dream Team riders:

    Reinardt Janse Van Rensburg 3%
    Yannick Martinez 1%
    Nikias Arndt 4%
    Jens Keukeleire 1%
    Aleksei Tsatevich 2%
    Davide Cimolai 1%
    Kris Boeckmans 2%
    Cesare Benedetti 4%
    Natnael Berhane 24%

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