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April 16, 2014 at 10:54 am #21184
willythepimp
My Boy has just started riding his bike and in typical pushy parent fashion (or bike obsessed), I’m looking for his next bike as a fifth birthday present in the summer.
I want something that is good quality, light and with enough gearing to let him cruise with mum and dad without killing him on the hills. I want him to have the chance to really enjoy it, and know that having a nice machine makes all the difference. I feel that it is a bit unfair that adults get lighter bikes than children!
He will be after a 16 incher I reckon, as it will give him enough growing room before he gets a proper junior bike.
Any recommendations greatly received!
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OldRidgeback
Simon E wrote:GREGJONES
Simon E wrote:GREGJONES wrote:In my experience stabalisers are pointless, if anything they delay children learning to ride a bike. Either get a balance bike and then use the ‘proper bike’, or just get a proper bike and take off the peals so they can use it as a balance bike.I’d go as far as saying that stabilisers are the devil’s work. They actively hinder a child learning to balance. When they are removed the child has to unlearn the way of turning and correcting, and most find this disconcerting. I would urge any parent to avoid them like the plague (this is another area where Isla’s advice proved to be spot on).
As Greg says, start without pedals. Walk/trot alongside with your hands under their armpits; this way you can prevent them falling but they learn how to correct the wobbles themselves with steering and bodyweight. Remind them frequently to keep looking ahead, not at the front wheel. As they progress they need less support.
I couldn’t agree more. I taught both my kids to ride and have since taught various others, younger siblings of children in the club or children of friends mainly. Balance bikes are the way to go, or even a bike with the pedals (and possibly the cranks) taken off temporarily.
Holding onto the saddle while teaching a child is a common mistake and hinders learning as the child is not manoeuvring or balancing the bike, while holding the bars is worse still. Hold the child upright under the armpits is much better. Another way is to get the child to wear a backpack and hold that.
willythepimp
And the quality of the bike
And the quality of the bike is fantastic. A real machine rather than a toy.willythepimp
*Update*
We went for the
*Update*We went for the Islabikes bienn 20, and altough initially daunted, the boy is changing gears on the move, standing up to pedal and doing skids. A happy young lad!
gmac101
We have 2 Isla bikes a small
We have 2 Isla bikes a small Beinn 20 and a Beinn 24. They have both been great and turned both of my girls into cyclists after they struggled with “superstore” bikes. The one mistake we made was to buy the larger bike as one “to grow into” and my older daughter struggled a bit with a frame that was too large, especially with the reach to the handle bars (she has long legs and a short body).My brother bought a Frog for his son and he loves it and it means that he can cope with longer rides. Frog delivered the bike to his LBS who did the final assembly – the LBS were impressed with the bike.
simon.thornton
We’ve had both makes –
We’ve had both makes – Islabikes are brilliant and now Frog have hopped into the pond and are similarly much lighter weight than mainstream rivals – and quite keenly priced – and you can get them from proper bike shops –
Whichever, just do it – A child on a properly designed 10kg Islabike or Frog is much more likely to love cycling than on one weighing half as much again ….
And, no, they don’t need any suspension and no they don’t need dozens of gears and no they don’t need different models for boys and girls ….bikerdavecycling
I would go straight to the
I would go straight to the Beinn 20 iI your position. At 5, he’ll want gears in no time as he’ll soon out spin the Cnoc 16 gears on faster surfaces but wish they had lower gears up hills. It was about at 5 that we jumped from the Cnoc 16.willythepimp
David Portland wrote:My son’s
David Portland wrote:My son’s five in a couple of weeks, he’s been on his sister’s old Beinn 20 Small since as soon as he could fit on it (he’s not unusually tall, she’s on a 24 now). He finds it a lot easier off-road than his old Cnoc 14. Gears don’t seem confusing, he just leaves it in the same one most of the time ;)
Precisely what I thought would happen, then he will get the hang of gear changing at his leisure.
So long as it is a fit, I think the Beinn 20 small seems like the way ahead. Now to pay for it!Thanks everyone for all your help!
Will
willythepimp
The balance bike was the
The balance bike was the proper job, one week of an hour hear and there, followed by the promise of some snazzy skull bike lights, and I did not even have to push him to get going. Jumped on, kicked along for momentum, and pedalled. Stopped with a skid ten metres down, and turned back and said “can I have those skull lights now?”joemmo
similar experience to Greg
similar experience to Greg but other way round. Despite starting early, my daughter refused to ride without stabilisers and took until 7 to be convinced that 2 wheels were best, even though she could ride a scooter well before. As a contrast my 2.5 year old boy has had a balance bike since 2nd birthday – he can already coast along and balance with both feet up and has the reflexes to dab a foot when he needs to.
Simon E
GREGJONES wrote:In my
GREGJONES wrote:In my experience stabalisers are pointless, if anything they delay children learning to ride a bike. Either get a balance bike and then use the ‘proper bike’, or just get a proper bike and take off the peals so they can use it as a balance bike.I’d go as far as saying that stabilisers are the devil’s work. They actively hinder a child learning to balance. When they are removed the child has to unlearn the way of turning and correcting, and most find this disconcerting. I would urge any parent to avoid them like the plague (this is another area where Isla’s advice proved to be spot on).
As Greg says, start without pedals. Walk/trot alongside with your hands under their armpits; this way you can prevent them falling but they learn how to correct the wobbles themselves with steering and bodyweight. Remind them frequently to keep looking ahead, not at the front wheel. As they progress they need less support.
Jack Osbourne snr
I have twins, so baulked at
I have twins, so baulked at the double whammy that 2x Islabikes would have been.2x Frog bikes has been a resounding success for both kids and Dad’s wallet. We live on a slope with a sharp climb from pavement to house and although the kids (aged 7) can’t manage it yet, my wife can carry both bikes up at the same time.
arfa
Personally I went to wiggle
Personally I went to wiggle for my children’s’ bikes. If you know what size you need then you’re fine and I rate the felt mountain bikes highly.David Portland
My son’s five in a couple of
My son’s five in a couple of weeks, he’s been on his sister’s old Beinn 20 Small since as soon as he could fit on it (he’s not unusually tall, she’s on a 24 now). He finds it a lot easier off-road than his old Cnoc 14. Gears don’t seem confusing, he just leaves it in the same one most of the time đŸ˜‰snappyandrew
Oh and give Isla bikes a
Oh and give Isla bikes a call. They really helped pick the right onesnappyandrew
+1 for Isla bikes. Also have
+1 for Isla bikes. Also have a look at how much they go for on ebay. If you look after it in effect you are renting the bike as , the last time I looked, you get at least 70% of the new price back. -
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