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Project One Clarification

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  • February 14, 2014 at 2:01 am #20692
    Gkam84

    Right, I am starting this, because to my utter disappointment, I have been reading about people “manipulating” the voting.

    I tried this out…It worked. So some of the bikes are receiving multiple votes from the same people, over and over.

    My question is

    Do you have to be logged in for a vote to be cast? (I seemed to be able to vote without being logged in, twice)
    Can you vote more than once on the same bike? (I also managed to do this)
    Can you vote daily on the same bike? (I haven’t been able to confirm this)

    From what I am reading, there are a number of people, voting over and over on the same bike and artificially bumping the votes up, are these getting counted?

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  • February 18, 2014 at 5:47 pm #774147
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    andyp

    That’s more like it.
    That’s more like it. 🙂

    February 18, 2014 at 5:32 pm #774145
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    gregww1

    andyp wrote:…But as it is I

    andyp wrote:
    …But as it is I can just see a whole lot of greed. Which isn’t particularly becoming.

    Almost, but not entirely. Some talked about donating the bike to charity and I’ve publicly stated elsewhere that if I won, the proceeds from the sale of my current bike (a 2013 Spzd Tarmac) would go to Kidney Research UK.

    February 18, 2014 at 4:53 pm #774143
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    andyp

    Not being in the final 25,
    Not being in the final 25, perhaps my views are meaningless. But it seems to me that whatever happens, one person will be getting a bike they didn’t previously have, and haven’t paid for; and 24 others are no worse off than they were.

    Had entries required stumping up of cash, I’d feel differently. But as it is I can just see a whole lot of greed. Which isn’t particularly becoming.

    February 18, 2014 at 4:47 pm #774141
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    Gkam84

    Darren C wrote:Gkam84

    Darren C wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    No the competition was for a bike and ONLY bike, for ONE winner, no runners up, no splitting of the prize pot

    Yes I accept that was the original intention and in an ideal world, where all the voting had taken place with everyone on a level playing field, it would work.
    But with suspicions of a unfair result, all trust has since disappeared.

    If you wanted to make an issue of all 25 getting something, I would make an issue of the judging that picked the 25 in the first place….Why didn’t mine get in? I want a prize….

    It would just get silly

    February 18, 2014 at 4:32 pm #774139
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    mooleur

    Gkam84 wrote:There should

    Gkam84 wrote:
    There should have only been a couple of winners to this. Road.cc with increased traffic, Trek with publicity and THEN, the eventual winner….So far it has proved that much and more, I think it is getting alot more attention that ever though of.

    Exactly this!

    I actually bought a Madone off the back of this comp – their job is being done from a marketing perspective, however positive or negative it is.

    February 18, 2014 at 4:31 pm #774137
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    gregww1

    I haven’t unleashed my final
    I haven’t unleashed my final assault yet, so don’t be surprised when my votes suddenly spike from one an hour to three. 😉

    And, I’ll have you know I’m quite an attractive MAMIL, with my man-boobs and beard. They could do a piece on me and how this bike helps transform me into a lean, mean riding machine, lol.

    February 18, 2014 at 4:19 pm #774135
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    Darren C

    Gkam84 wrote:No the

    Gkam84 wrote:
    No the competition was for a bike and ONLY bike, for ONE winner, no runners up, no splitting of the prize pot

    Yes I accept that was the original intention and in an ideal world, where all the voting had taken place with everyone on a level playing field, it would work.
    But with suspicions of a unfair result, all trust has since disappeared.

    February 18, 2014 at 4:14 pm #774133
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    GoingRoundInCycles

    Gkam84 wrote:Trek, I guess in

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Trek, I guess in conjunction with Road.cc are working on a solution and statement.

    There should have only been a couple of winners to this. Road.cc with increased traffic, Trek with publicity and THEN, the eventual winner….So far it has proved that much and more, I think it is getting alot more attention that ever though of.

    There is only going to be one winner of the bike in my opinion, no matter what happens, she’s won it

    Of course she’s won it. Trek / Road.cc have backed themselves into an impossible position where the only alternative to Juliet is a victory for a bullish, ugly, middle-aged mamil, with a face like a slapped arse in every promo pic. =))

    The only proven vote manipulation is by the organisers themselves when they deleted votes yesterday and today from every contestant except one. Poor Darren has had 6 votes removed for reasons unknown and yet the person with 1700+ votes … not one of the votes was dodgy according to whatever rule of thumb nonsense rule they plucked out of thin air to decide with 100% accuracy whether IP address xx:yy:zz:00 is from a ‘real’ voter or not … 8| … for every vote for every contestant in the compo, except one …. 8|

    Pardon my French but this has turned into a gigantic clusterfuck that will be written about in marketing circles for years to come. =))

    February 18, 2014 at 4:09 pm #774131
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    Gkam84

    No the competition was for a
    No the competition was for a bike and ONLY bike, for ONE winner, no runners up, no splitting of the prize pot

    February 18, 2014 at 4:00 pm #774129
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    Darren C

    gregww1 wrote:Gkam84

    gregww1 wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    There is only going to be one winner of the bike in my opinion, no matter what happens, she’s won it

    I don’t disagree.


    From all that has happened so far, there is no other conclusion in my opinion either!
    I would prefer it if the ‘competition’ was void and each of the shortlisted entries was given the same equal prize instead, say a choice of goods or a gift voucher to the value of £128.00. (£3200/25 = £128.00 each).
    Also when the competition was launched, I thought it a bit strange that there was not any runner-up prizes, you would expect something for the top three at least! 😉

    February 18, 2014 at 3:46 pm #774127
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    gregww1

    Gkam84 wrote:There is only

    Gkam84 wrote:
    There is only going to be one winner of the bike in my opinion, no matter what happens, she’s won it

    I don’t disagree.

    February 18, 2014 at 3:43 pm #774125
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    Gkam84

    Trek, I guess in conjunction
    Trek, I guess in conjunction with Road.cc are working on a solution and statement.

    There should have only been a couple of winners to this. Road.cc with increased traffic, Trek with publicity and THEN, the eventual winner….So far it has proved that much and more, I think it is getting alot more attention that ever though of.

    There is only going to be one winner of the bike in my opinion, no matter what happens, she’s won it

    February 18, 2014 at 3:41 pm #774123
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    gregww1

    Ok, this is just getting
    Ok, this is just getting silly now. Accusations are flying around, vote rigging, talk of disqualification (that hasn’t materialised), possible favouritsm, no clarity on what constitutes cheating and what doesn’t, votes for some mysteriously disappearing without written explanation whilst others are not affected, and now the voting page has been relegated to the depths of the news section where no casual visitor who might actually be tempted to place an unbiased vote will ever find it.

    The organisers need to make a coherent statement today giving a full explanation, before the competition closes in order to give reasonable time for all competitors to respond. I simply do not trust the number of votes being cast for some entries, including those currently leading after others were penalised. If the organisers can’t or won’t say anything on the matter then I’d like my entry to be removed from voting and an apology issued by Trek and road.cc to all those that have voted for wasting their valuable time.

    Edit at 15:41 18/02: Just received a tweet from the organisers, they are working on a plan and will have a solution soon. Finally, this might get sorted out.

    February 18, 2014 at 2:27 pm #774121
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    GoingRoundInCycles

    neildmoss

    neildmoss wrote:
    GoingRoundInCycles wrote:
    And while this disaster unfolds, still not a public word to explain the inexplicable from the road.cc team ….

    CompetitionRules wrote:
    No correspondence will be entered into.

    True to their word.

    Not entirely true to their word, some competitors are deemed worthy of a reply to their concerns about the operation of this ‘competition’, concerns I raised on the 12th February and have yet to receive a reply …..

    February 18, 2014 at 2:22 pm #774119
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    parksey

    This is all quite intriguing,
    This is all quite intriguing, better than an average week of Corrie!

    I did design and enter one bike but, as per a couple of comments above, I’m glad I didn’t get through if this is what the competition was actually about.

    On a possibly related note, I’ve noticed that various forum threads seem to have an unusually high number of likes against individual posts too, this being an example:

    http://road.cc/content/forum/110280-should-cyclists-ride-pavements

    Can’t imagine that’s as a result of genuine new traffic to the site from this competition…

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