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December 3, 2013 at 7:03 pm #20302
lookmanohands
It seems like the lack of rain (down south anyway) has combined with the grit/salt that the local councils have put down and the damp dewy air to produce a suface worse than ice. Never thought id be wishing for rain. Hopefully when it does come itll wash the roads clean a bit.
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Goldfever4
700c wrote:Cridge wrote:I’m
700c wrote:Cridge wrote:I’m running Gatorskins, they are 23’s and they are impeccable, I have dropped the pressure down to 85 but the only slip I get is uphill (out the saddle) and hard on the brakes – I won’t buy a different tyre, yes the roads are more slippery than usual but I can only tell because those I ride with keep slipping and that’s on a multitude of tyres?can anyone recommend a tyre that does not skid going up steep-ish hills when out of the saddle? or is it completely unavoidable?
I’m really struggling with this at the moment, but to be honest the same problem affects me during summer as well when the gradients get above 15% or so
I posted a topic on here before about this and consensus was my technique was poor – which I’ve tried to work on this by not pulling on the bars, keeping weight back etc, but still get the slipping..
What gear are you in? Sounds like your gear is quite high, cadence low, and consequently you’re putting a lot of pressure at an early part of the pedal stroke.
I’d say you have 2 options, one cheap and one not so – even out the pedal stroke / put your arse back further, or get a pizza dish
turboprannet
went down on an icy/greasy
went down on an icy/greasy corner on saturday at a relatively fair speed (32km/h-ish), luckily the bike and gear emerged relatively unscathed (new bar tape needed) but my leg, ribs and shoulder are paying the price now.JonD
On an mtb you’d often sit on
On an mtb you’d often sit on the saddle nose on really steep stuff so that a) you don’t lift the front b) don’t spin out the back ‘cos you’re too far forward, or putting too much torque down at one point in the pedal stroke.I guess you’ve run out of gears ? – maybe a bit more weight further back, and controlling your pedal stroke a bit more – maybe with not all your weight through the downwards pedal ?
But what do I know, I mostly ride a recumbent 😉 – I’ve been getting wheelspin on steep stuff very occasionally, I think some little-used back-roads roads are just a bit slippy..
veseunr
Had a scary ride yesterday –
Had a scary ride yesterday – three rear wheel slips (23mm GP4000s) but managed to hold them all. Having just come off my first Midlands Cyclocross season, it has had two effects: a) I am definitely better at handling slippy surfaces. b) I am definitely better at falling off …. had quite a bit of practice, especially at Sundowne where slicks where not the right choice!!Agree with most – roads do seem slippier this winter (and not because of ice).
Anonymous
Good tyres: anything wider
Good tyres: anything wider than 25mm I guess. Personally I don’t run anything above 25mm due to lack of clearance.
It’s possible to avoid wheelspin by evening out the power through the pedal stroke. Overgearing slightly can help, but I’m guessing at 15% grades and higher you’re close to your lowest gear and potentially not able to rev any slower.
Scavenging the tarmac for rougher patches can help as the friction here will be greater. Reducing the gradient by zig-zagging is potentially useful but not very traffic-friendly!700c
Cridge wrote:I’m running
Cridge wrote:I’m running Gatorskins, they are 23’s and they are impeccable, I have dropped the pressure down to 85 but the only slip I get is uphill (out the saddle) and hard on the brakes – I won’t buy a different tyre, yes the roads are more slippery than usual but I can only tell because those I ride with keep slipping and that’s on a multitude of tyres?can anyone recommend a tyre that does not skid going up steep-ish hills when out of the saddle? or is it completely unavoidable?
I’m really struggling with this at the moment, but to be honest the same problem affects me during summer as well when the gradients get above 15% or so
I posted a topic on here before about this and consensus was my technique was poor – which I’ve tried to work on this by not pulling on the bars, keeping weight back etc, but still get the slipping..
Cridge
I’m running Gatorskins, they
I’m running Gatorskins, they are 23’s and they are impeccable, I have dropped the pressure down to 85 but the only slip I get is uphill (out the saddle) and hard on the brakes – I won’t buy a different tyre, yes the roads are more slippery than usual but I can only tell because those I ride with keep slipping and that’s on a multitude of tyres?Had to stop going up hill
Had to stop going up hill today to clean the accumulated mud off the inside of my mudguards. ..on the road :Otom_w
So, the question is: Is it
So, the question is: Is it worse than previous years and if so why?brakesmadly
I had a two wheel slide on
I had a two wheel slide on Friday, turning an uphill corner that I ride every day. Through my immense bike handling skills (i.e. blind luck) I stayed upright. I stopped to check for punctures as it felt so unlikely to slide at that speed.pnoodles
Glad it’s not just me; I was
Glad it’s not just me; I was getting paranoid! Two falls in two weeks, slow corners. One a roundabout (where a friend also went down) and one a 90 degree corner. Both pretty much dry, both surfaces coated in a fair amount of black stuff. Front wheel just went from under me both times.I must admit that I’ve never experienced roads like this before, problem is I’m now super nervous about all cornering and descending.
Not good.
mrmo
don’t know if it is my
don’t know if it is my imagination, but the roads seem far worse than in previous years? whether it is the lack of rain for the last few weeks, a change in the mix they are spreading on the roads i don’t know. It isn’t nice!!!!!
tourdelound
Almost came a cropper twice
Almost came a cropper twice this afternoon. Back wheel locked up on the approach to a junction, managed to stay upright more through luck than judgement. Then, turning into another road at a T- junction, had a right @*$€ nipper, when the front wheel started to go. Adds a bit of interest to the ride I guess. 🙂I think it’s a combination of diesel, mud, rotting leaves and damp.
Roll on summer!
glynr36
Went down this morning, 35 on
Went down this morning, 35 on a descent road turned right, tightened up and then I was over and sliding down the road.
Second ride on the winter bike and bent the hanger, and possibly damaged mech,
Ripped knee and arm warmer and a fair bit of skin on the road!ajmarshal1
Bang. Went down hard this
Bang. Went down hard this morning. Nothing really damaged but my pride thankfully but it was out of nowhere on a corner I normally take at 20+mph in the summer but was being winter cautious at between 12-15mph. Front wheel just disappeared from under me. Took the fall on my shoulder and scratched the buckle of my Zxelliums. Had a look at the road and can’t work out why I went down. Bike is wearing Conti 4000s, think I’ll just stay on the trainer until march. 🙁 -
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