[Team EPO]

So my Mavic UST tubeless tyres and wheels have been great but it was time to put on some new and thicker stronger winter tyres.  Well trying to fit the IRC tires to the UST rims has been nigh on impossible so hoping someone out there has had an easier time with other brands??

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[Grub]

Hutchinson for me (all season

Hutchinson for me (all season and performance), never an issue fitting and seating with a range of rims (inc Mavic).

[Judge dreadful]

hawkinspeter wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Usually, the trick is to ensure that the bead is in the middle (deepest) part of the rim bed as that should give you just enough freedom to get the tyre on. Maybe Mavic’s don’t have quite enough depth there compared to other rims. However, I’ve heard of people having trouble with other specific combos of rims and tyres, so maybe it’s just a question of engineering tolerances making some combos particularly hard. I nearly always have to resort to using tyre levers to put tyres on and have found that some types work much better than others – if the tyre lever keeps slipping out, then bin it. The IRCs that I used weren’t the most pliable of tyre but they did offer great grip and lack of p*******s. Nowadays, I’m using some GP 5000TLs which also work really well and feel more supple.

I think you’re right about the trench depth on Mavic tubeless rims. I can’t help but think it’s because most Mavic tubeless rims are supplied as WTS, with Mavic tubeless tyres, and that Mavic do it on purpose to encourage people to only buy the Mavic Tubeless tyres which ( amazingly ) don’t cause any issues with the Mavic rims, whereas ( for example) Continental GP5000 TL tyres absolutely wont go on.

[Judge dreadful]

These are rubbish in my

These are rubbish in my experience I bought one a couple of years ago. Not only was it totally useless, as soon as I tried to use it to mount a Continental GP5000 TL to a Mavic rim, it broke ( and split the bead off of the tyre).

[Secret_squirrel]

+ 1 for Pro Ones.  Although I

+ 1 for Pro Ones.  Although I did have one set that absolutely refused to sit cleanly and always had a mysterious bulges (like there was a mis-shapen innertube under nearth ) unless you reseated 2-3 times.  Never seen it before or since.

[Jimmy Ray Will]

Just a curiosity, but why are

Just a curiosity, but why are you looking at changing to a more robust set of tyres? 

Are you in a flinty area? 

For me, one of the benefits of tubeless is that you can run a decent tyre all year round, and let the sealant do the job that your heavier winter tyre would. 

 

[Drinfinity]

You put the forked bit on the

You put the forked bit on the opposite rim, and the hook goes under the bead. The fork presses directly down on the rim where it is strong, rather than crushing it sideways. I’ve used it on lightweight carbon rims and tight tyres no problems.

[MoutonDeMontagne]

Drinfinity wrote:

I use a tyre mounting tool rather than levers for anything tight. Turns a 30 minute festival of swearing and frustration into a smooth job.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bbb-Cycling-Unisexs-BTL-78-Bikes/dp/B00A855QRY/ref=asc_df_B00A855QRY/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310135571037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3491547004569564429&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006509&hvtargid=pla-440365238122&psc=1

Ooh, cheers for this that’s a great shout. Looks like you don’t have to lever against the rim with them, is that correct? Would make fitting on carbon rims far less squeeky bum if so. 

[MoutonDeMontagne]

Only used Vittoria on the

Only used Vittoria on the road bike tubeless. Realtively easy to fit, can be a pain to seal. My now go to technicque is inflate using a tubeless inflator with the valve core removed to seat, add sealent and valve core, pump up to somewhere near the max pressure, ride around the block and through potholes. It’s this last bit that is key, they just WILL NOT seal without being ridden seemingly. 

[IanEdward]

I’m still running old school

I’m still running old school Challenge Limus Tyres on my CX bike, famously hard to fit.

Two tips I learned:

1) Use alchohol hand gel (all the rage right now…) as a lubricant, it evoporates to nothing once the tyre is fitted rather than leaving a soapy mess behind. Handy and compact to carry out on the road too if you’re worried about refitting tyres al fresco.

2) Finish at the valve. If you start at the valve, the shape and size of the valve plug can use up precious ‘slack’ in the bead, not a problem if you finish at the valve instead.

 

[Dhill]

Quick note here. Use tubular

Quick note here. Use tubular tyres, rim tape and my patented tubular tyre applicator (you can use a plastic spoon with a narrow round handle. Quick a formula 1 pit crew. Then on these cold dark nights, get the sewing kit out.

[Dhill]

Yep me, I have.

Yep me, I have.

[mtbtomo]

I’ve had no trouble with
I’ve had no trouble with GP5000, Hutchinson, Schwalbe, Specialized 2bliss (Roubaix), Vittoria tubeless across a variety of wheel brands with no problems apart from GP5000 on some Reynolds carbon rims. GP5000 were the easiest I’ve ever fitted however on another set of rims.

Decent tyre levers that have a profile that you can locate on the rim edge as well as having a decent tongue make a difference. Something like Decathlon BTwin (yellow ones), Schwalbe…. Possibly Pedro’s??

[Footloosecrow]

I have those wheels and had

I have those wheels and had similar experience. Easist tyre to mount on them have been 32 mm Panaracer Gravel Kings which went on without tools and inflated tubelessly with Halfords track pump. 

[pablo]

Schwalbe Pro one. Easiest
Schwalbe Pro one. Easiest tyres I have every fitted could do it one handed. This was on a new set of zipps so not sure if it was the rim or tyre but most peoples reviews say how easy they are. Conti to seem to be a nightmare

[wtjs]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bbb

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bbb-Cycling-Unisexs-BTL-78-Bikes/dp/B00A855QRY/ref=asc_df_B00A855QRY/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=310135571037&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3491547004569564429&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006509&hvtargid=pla-440365238122&psc=1

This is indeed a very useful link- I haven’t seen these, but will get one for my daughter. The tyres I’ve been using for years seem to be so precisely sized that I can get them on with fingers and palms.

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