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I see a fund has opened to help Kimmage defend himself against the UCI:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/paul-kimmage-defense-fund

He's also started tweeting as @PaulKimmage

I think this may now go somewhere the UCI had no intention of it going. Let's hope so!

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SideBurn [890 posts] 3 years ago
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I do not want to make the news-hounds at Road cc feel bad or anything, but; I had to look this up on Velonation.com! Apparently Paul is accused of making false allegations about people in the UCI. I thought that if a journalist makes an allegation then the publication is jointly and separately liable? Seems a bit s**t that the UCI should target Paul personally when they must know that the publication is more likely to have the money to pay a penalty? Journalists do get a bit of leeway in the name of freedom of speech, but, surely if you make allegations that you cannot back up with evidence then more fool you? But having said that I may chip in in the name of access to justice!

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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He's tweeting like there's no tomorrow.
Irreverent as hell and very entertaining.

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notfastenough [3661 posts] 3 years ago
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SideBurn wrote:

I do not want to make the news-hounds at Road cc feel bad or anything, but; I had to look this up on Velonation.com!

It's a fair point though - I had no idea this was happening.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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David Walsh of the Sunday Times has tweeted tha Tyler Hamilton has agreed to auctio memoribelia to help the Paul Kimmage Defence Fund.

The snowball keeps rolling.

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SevenHills [184 posts] 3 years ago
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If i am not mistaken there is a bit of history between Kimmage and McQuaid which might explain the fact that they are only going after him rather than both the author and the publication.
Does seem to be vindictive.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Both the Kimmage family and the McQuaid family were from Dublin. Both families were entrenched in cycling. Fathers, brothers and cousins would have raced against each other. Pretty small world back then I imagine. Not sure if Kimmage and McQuaid actually raced against each other (Kimmage's father might have) but McQuaid would have been director of the Irish squad when Kimmage was cycling, so their histories go way, way back.

To say there's 'a bit of history' would be an understatement.

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Simon E [2545 posts] 3 years ago
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Kimmage tweeted a photo of himself with McQuaid at the 1985 amateur Worlds. His subsequent tweet provided the caption: "Paul Kimmage (spitter in the soup) on the left. Pat McQuaid (saviour of the soup) on the right."

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Blackhound [433 posts] 3 years ago
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How much is needed? I know legal rep is expensive and Switzerland(?) maybe even more so.

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The Rumpo Kid [589 posts] 3 years ago
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SevenHills wrote:

If i am not mistaken there is a bit of history between Kimmage and McQuaid which might explain the fact that they are only going after him rather than both the author and the publication.
Does seem to be vindictive.

A simpler explanation is that the publishers would have the funds to hand with which to mount a defence.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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@GregLeMond has now shown support for this via twitter:

"This is an unjust action against a great person and one of the best journalists in the world. Let's support Paul.http://t.co/upZ813tv"

The snowball keeps rolling.

I think the odds that the UCI suddenly drop this might be shortening.
This could be the story that the media start focusing on - more than USADA v UCI.
There's a lot more human interest here and a ton of history.

The fund currently stands at $36,000 with just over 1000 contributors.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Comments from contributors here:
http://cyclismas.chipin.com/contributors/public/id/4db2e4ecaa6ad4fd

Some funny, some…er… strange but by and large a very positive reaction.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Just updating the thread:
Kimmage interview on Velonation as the defense fund tops $40,000 and 1200 contributors.

www.velonation.com/News/ID/12947/Kimmage-selecting-legal-defence-backing...

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Latest update from Red Kite Prayer:

The legalities of the UCI's case and how Kimmage might proceed.

http://redkiteprayer.com/2012/09/the-explainer-of-being-fools-etc/

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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David Walsh on the detail contained in USADA's case against US. Postal

http://www.scribd.com/doc/108440794/Walsh-ST

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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A bit more background to the current case.
Kimmage interview from 2011.

http://soundcloud.com/cycling-central/kimmage-revisited-anthony-tan

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Dick Pound, former head of WADA, gives his opinion of the UCI's recent spate of lawsuits.
Pound himself went through a similar experience with the UCI in recent years and was forced to make a 'public apology'.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12997/Richard-Pound-Interview-The-Kimm...

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Just updating this thread for the record.

The UCI in a recent management meeting decided to suspend this lawsuit.
Rather than the UCI seeing them selves as heavy handed and a bit over the top, other factors were at play.

The open letter to Pat McQuaid (UCI chief) by Greg LeMond a few days previously, where LeMond asked everyone to join him in 'telling Pat McQuaid to fuck off' and subsequently urged everyone to support Kimmage's defense fund more than likely had some bearing.

The fund going from $36,000 at the end of September to just shy of $90,000 presently has also had some bearing.

McQuaid and Kimmage are ex cyclists (Kimmage going on to professional). Both from the same town. When this started McQuaid looked over his shoulder and saw his arch critic, Kimmage in trouble. He'd lost his job at the Sunday Times and therefore his platform. lost his income and therefore would have no means to fight a court case. Like all good racers do, he attacked. It was his best opportunity in 20 years to put Kimmage's back in his box.

Kimmage's was lucky enough to grab a few wheels (Cyclismas and NYVelocity) and slowly but surely bring himself back up through the group with the aid of thousands of cyclists also fed up with the UCI's actions over the past 20 years.

Just an hour ago Kimmage's pulled level. Looking across and see his old foe in trouble he has now launched his own attack. He is using the fund to counter sue the UCI (McQuaid). He has just tweeted ”unleash hell'.

It's all about cycling.

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 3 years ago
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Thanks for the update, I hope he holds onto the fund until he's clear of any prosecutions and then puts the money into some development for youth cycling or an anti drugs campain

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Some clarification.

The Kimmage fund was set up as a ”defence fund".
The nature of the case has changed with Kimmage now going on the "offense"

He has just clarified that none of the donations so far have been used.
All donators will be contacted - if they are not happy with the way the fund may now be used, then they will receive a full refund.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 3 years ago
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Just updating this for any future reference.

Via Twitter and with the financial aid of Jamie Fuller, owner of SKINS compression wear, a group of 'interested parties' now known as Change Cycling Now - http://www.changecyclingnow.org/ held a conference in London in December. In attendance we Kimmage, colleague David Walsh, Greg LeMond, Michael Ashdenden and others: http://www.changecyclingnow.org/attendees

The two day conference resulted in a "Charter of the Willing" - http://www.changecyclingnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Charter-of-th... and Greg LeMond offering to stand as "Interim President" of the UCI if Pat McQuaid stepped down, more symbolic gesture than a serious strategic move against McQuaid.

McQuaid dismissed the groups and it's findings: http://road.cc/content/news/72115-mcquaid-judge-cycling-london-2012-not-...

Whether or not Change Cycling Now can sustain momentum and build on their first conference is very much in question with only 4820 having signed their petition as I type.

Whether Kimmage has a valid case against the UCI should be decided by the end of 2012.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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Update: Kimmage reckons Change Cycling Now has been a "load of hot air" as Pat McQuaid has been once again nominated by Cycling Ireland as UCI president. 1 board member Anto Moran, VP, resigns post in protest.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kimmage-angered-by-cycling-irelands-supp...

New documentary about Kimmage due for release in late 2013 early 2014. Trailer here:
http://vimeo.com/58740295

I feel wedded to this thread now. Sickness and health. Richer or poorer.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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Update: Cycling Ireland recently endorsed Pat McQuaid as candidate for UCI president.
One board member, Anto Moran resigned on protest.
It now transpires that protocol may not have been followed. The notion to call an EGM allowing all members a vote, may not have been given proper consideration. In a rush all secretaries of CI. Clubs are being contacted and urged to call for an EGM before 5pm tomorrow when the board reconvene to discuss the matter. If found to be in breach of protocol then McQuaid's endorsement won't stand and it may go to members vote.

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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It's the story that keeps writing itself.

UPDATE: Enough clubs have voted in the small time frame to force an Cycling Ireland EGM.

Statement: "Cycling Ireland at a meeting of its Board on April 26th decided to convene an EGM to consider matters which have arisen following the decision taken at its Board meeting on April 12th, to nominate Mr Pat McQuaid to stand for the position of UCI President.
Details of the EGM will be circulated to all clubs early next week.
For and on behalf of the Board of Cycling Ireland,
Geoff Liffey,
Company Secretary.
26th of April 2013

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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UPDATE

And the thread comes full circle.
The Paul Kimmage Defense Fund has gone missing.
The people responsible for setting up the fund have fallen out - Aaron Brown aka UCI Overlord, who's bank account the money was 'resting' in, has failed to give a reasonable explanation to Lesli Cohen (Brown's business partner at Cyclismas) as to the whereabouts of the fund.

Brown says all will be revealed.
A very ignoble conclusion to a very noble cause? We'll see. I guess it's not over by a long shot.
Will McQuaid spot another weakness and move in on Kimmage again?
Will another fund be set up?
Does anyone care anymore?
Tune in for the next instalment of THE PAUL KIMMAGE DEFENSE FUND!!!!!

http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/has-the-paul-kimmage-defense-fund-disappeared

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/05/news/questions-over-funds-dog-twi...

http://road.cc/content/news/82358-mystery-over-whereabouts-paul-kimmage-...

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 2 years ago
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I beat _SiD_ to it.....  26

Lesli has released her court papers http://www.scribd.com/doc/139460677/Complaint-Cohen-v-Aaron-Brown-and-Si...

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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Interview 'clips' with Aaron Brown released on line.
No sure of the context here or what the source is, could be edited out of context.
The fund is still missing/unaccounted for.

https://soundcloud.com/uci_overdrawn

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 2 years ago
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I listened to them this morning, can we even be sure its him?

It sounds dodgy, but its heavily edited and there is no context, just brief statements....So I wouldn't jump on that like every "legal know it all" person on twitter  19

I think some of it has been accounted for, but is in the hands of courts and solicitors at the moment  3

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_SiD_ [160 posts] 2 years ago
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SKINS chairman, responsible for the Change Cycling Now conference in 2012 has agreed to underwrite any legal costs Kimmage might incur while the "Defense Fund" is in limbo.

http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2013/skins-underwrite-kimmage-leg...

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Gkam84 [9068 posts] 2 years ago
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Talk about free publicity, Why didn't I think of that....  19

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