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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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Some start list changes are inevitable, watch this space. Scoring back to normal with sprints and climbs. There's a weird sprint on stage 3 I think, if it's counted as a normal sprint we'll score it, but if it's a different category, we won't. Some people may have noticed that scoring for cat3 climbs is included in the rules, when there are in fact no cat3 climbs.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 1 month ago
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Cav chancing his arm again...sheesh. I want him to do well but mainly I just want him not to do badly. Fingers crossed for him.

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jollygoodvelo [1862 posts] 1 month ago
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My first ever stage win on S1  4

I'd like to thank my parents, my friends, my pure luck and mostly the eight riders involved...

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Gkam84 [9138 posts] 1 month ago
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If as rumour has it, Stage 4 will be neutralised, that means the game will be aswell, correct?

I just wanted to check before making my changes for tomorrow.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Gkam84 wrote:

If as rumour has it, Stage 4 will be neutralised, that means the game will be aswell, correct?

I just wanted to check before making my changes for tomorrow.

I haven't seen anything official anywhere but I saw someone say that tomorrows stage has been cancelled. Now seen tweets saying tomorrow is neutralised but still nothing official.

Very very sad news about Lambrecht.

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Gkam84 [9138 posts] 1 month ago
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Following the tragic death of Bjorg Lambrecht after his fall on stage 3, the 4th stage of the Tour de Pologne will be neutralized, organizers said. The riders will start as planned from Jaworzno, but they will only cross the final circuit once. If the Lotto Soudal team decides to stay in the race, its remaining six riders will cut the line first.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Head of CPA has announced -

Tour de Pologne Stage 4 neutralized. Riders go from start to the finish and there will do only one lap. No racing. If Lotto - Soudal start tomorrow they will pass the finish line in front of the peleton.

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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I've just seen the announcement, still taking in the news tbh, so that's correct. No racing means no scoring, save your transfers for Wednesday.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 1 month ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

I've just seen the announcement, still taking in the news tbh, so that's correct. No racing means no scoring, save your transfers for Wednesday.

I have no idea how they can even carry on...other than being made of tough stuff. Maybe quite a few will only be going through the motions, or, some may even pull out....it seems like he was a very popular figure in the peleton.

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Gkam84 [9138 posts] 1 month ago
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I don't think anyone will put out of the race unless they are injured, the Lotto team will ride in honour of Bjorg. Same as Trek did with Wouter Weylandt at the Giro in 2011, neutral stage and then withdraw after that.

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tony kappler [208 posts] 1 month ago
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Andy,

Even though stage 4 is neutralized, do you intend to score GC, points, sprints & KOM classifications as per TdF stg 19?

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Sniffer [673 posts] 1 month ago
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I would feel more comfortable if we didn't score stage 4 at all and it is a pause for us all. Our game feels very unimportant today.

On the technical side, there was racing in stage 19 of the TdF. GC changed for example. Today feels different.

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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If the stage is totally neutralised as planned, then no. The situation changed on stage 19 TdF as there was racing. Today, nothing should change. The situation will be as we were at the end of yesterday.

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11waterloo [10 posts] 1 month ago
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Sniffer wrote:

I would feel more comfortable if we didn't score stage 4 at all and it is a pause for us all. Our game feels very unimportant today. On the technical side, there was racing in stage 19 of the TdF. GC changed for example. Today feels different.

Very well said, I couldn’t agree more.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Pretty unsure about who to pick today.

Left some sprinters in and brought some punchier riders in.

Not sure leaving Gaviria in was a good idea, he could be working for Ulissi or even Consonni today. Possibly would have been better leaving Van Poppel in.

ACKERMANN
HIGUITA
ULISSI
GAVIRIA
VENTURINI
BATTAGLIN
MOHORIC
MEZGEC

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Sniffer [673 posts] 1 month ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Pretty unsure about who to pick today.

Left some sprinters in and brought some punchier riders in.

Not sure leaving Gaviria in was a good idea, he could be working for Ulissi or even Consonni today. Possibly would have been better leaving Van Poppel in.

ACKERMANN
HIGUITA
ULISSI
GAVIRIA
VENTURINI
BATTAGLIN
MOHORIC
MEZGEC

I have the first six the same.  Swift and Van Poppel for your Mohoric and Mezgec.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 1 month ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Pretty unsure about who to pick today.

Left some sprinters in and brought some punchier riders in.

Not sure leaving Gaviria in was a good idea, he could be working for Ulissi or even Consonni today. Possibly would have been better leaving Van Poppel in.

ACKERMANN
HIGUITA
ULISSI
GAVIRIA
VENTURINI
BATTAGLIN
MOHORIC
MEZGEC

Always a lottery with roller stages. Gaviria has been climbing quite well of late so you may be fine with him as a pick in his own right.

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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I made all my subs two days ago for puncheurs and climbers, so I'm hoping all the sprinters get dropped  1

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Gone for safe picks for today.

Not sure Swift will be there at the finish but have read that he will be going for it. I'm hoping that Prades is now Movistar leader, he should be able to produce a good result in a race like this.

IZAGUIRRE I.
HIGUITA
ULISSI
MAJKA
PRADES
SWIFT
MOHORIC
LATOUR

Points jersey is now up for grabs as Ackermann has pulled out, is he planning to do BinckBank ?

Bora have announced Ackermann has dropped out to allow him to do the European Championships Road Race.

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Sniffer [673 posts] 1 month ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Gone for safe picks for today.

Not sure Swift will be there at the finish but have read that he will be going for it. I'm hoping that Prades is now Movistar leader, he should be able to produce a good result in a race like this.

IZAGUIRRE I.
HIGUITA
ULISSI
MAJKA
PRADES
SWIFT
MOHORIC
LATOUR

Points jersey is now up for grabs as Ackermann has pulled out, is he planning to do BinckBank ?

Bora have announced Ackermann has dropped out to allow him to do the European Championships Road Race.

I have 5 of your eight

No Izaguirre, Prades and Mohoric.  I have Formolo, TGH and Miguel Angel Lopez instead.

Identifying the leader for a couple of teams is not easy.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Sniffer wrote:

I have 5 of your eight

No Izaguirre, Prades and Mohoric.  I have Formolo, TGH and Miguel Angel Lopez instead.

Identifying the leader for a couple of teams is not easy.

I was going to pick Formolo but he was working to chase people down yesterday, so I assumed he would be working for Majka today.

I think the route suits Izagirre better than Lopez, and Izagirre has done well in Poland before.

Given what Swift said yesterday I assumed Ineos would be supporting him today.

3 transfers left for tomorrow but I guess most people will have transfers over.

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Sniffer [673 posts] 1 month ago
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TGH and Formolo were not bad picks. MAL less so.

Two transfers for tomorrow.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Sniffer wrote:

TGH and Formolo were not bad picks. MAL less so. Two transfers for tomorrow.

Better than my picks.

The younsters are taking over.

Historically there have only been small differences on tomorrow's stage and it looks like Jumbo have a reasonably strong team.

Interesting to see what happens tomorrow, both Bora and Ineos have 2 riders in contention but will need to attack quite a distance from the finish if they want to make a big enough difference. Sunweb have 2 riders top ten too but I don't expect them to attack.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Should be a good race today, hopefully lots of attacking from early on.

My team for today -

IZAGUIRRE I.
HIGUITA
ULISSI
MAJKA
SIVAKOV
FORMOLO
VINGEGAARD
LATOUR

Decided not to go for the sensible pick - Lindley and go with Formolo who is very capable of attacking long.

After taking out Mohoric he will probably win from the break.

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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I want that top 20 finish, I've gone for Geschke and Marczynski for KOM points. No Vingegaard for me, I have:

ULISSI
SIVAKOV
GESCHKE
MARCZYNSKI
HIGUITA
MAJKA
FORMOLO
LATOUR

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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Mohoric wants sprint points it seems.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Mohoric wants sprint points it seems.

He must still think he can win GC.

I don't think he can beat Planet in the most active rider competition.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

I want that top 20 finish, I've gone for Geschke and Marczynski for KOM points. No Vingegaard for me, I have:

ULISSI
SIVAKOV
GESCHKE
MARCZYNSKI
HIGUITA
MAJKA
FORMOLO
LATOUR

Looking like a good tactic so far

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 1 month ago
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Geschke needs to score on the final climb, not sure how many points he needs, I haven't done the maths. Mohoric with a solo lead but a long way to go. Vingegaard not doing well.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 1 month ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Geschke needs to score on the final climb, not sure how many points he needs, I haven't done the maths. Mohoric with a solo lead but a long way to go. Vingegaard not doing well.

Geshke is now leading the KoM.

Looks like Mohoric has got this now.

Not sure why Powless is helping Majka.

Amazed Majka was allowed to get away like that.

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