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And so, onto the next stop in this season's world tour! Welcome to the inaugural UAE Tour, an amalgamation of the Abu Dhabi Tour and the Dubai Tour, this new race encompasses the best of both. On paper there looks to be something for everyone, with a couple of sprint stages, two summit finishes, a TTT and a couple for the rouleurs.

There are 2 PCT teams in Novo Nordisk and Gazprom-RusVelo to go along with the 18 WT teams, and no one is pulling any punches it seems. The classics men might be absent as stage 7 clashes with Omloop, but on the start list are defending champion Valverde, Dumoulin, Roglic, Nibali, Kwiatkowski, Porte, and many other contenders. And the sprinters field is stacked with Bennett, Viviani, Ewan, Gaviria, Kittel, and Kristoff all going along.

So what are you looking forward to? Who are you looking to pick above all others? All I'm hoping for are some crosswinds and carnage!

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Seven stages and only 12 transfers?

Isn't that a bit low?

 

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Gecko-cyclist [53 posts] 6 months ago
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Given all the egos on the start line we might need those transfers just to swap out the carnage!
Is this the first showdown between Viviani and Gaviria since the latter jumped ship?

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 6 months ago
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2 per stage is standard, we only increase for GTs and the classics.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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Cruel. How can we possibly choose between Domoulin and Roglic....exactly the same price so we don't even have the excuse of using the saving elsewhere.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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Just got around to picking my first drafts for this game.

This race has a fantastic line up to say it’s a kind of a new race(?). So many really good picks without a P against their names in the Purist game as popular picks...Buchmann, Fraile, Gallopin...loads of them.

Sheesh,

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triccky100 [176 posts] 6 months ago
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we have had 2 per stage so far (e.g. 10 for 5 stages in Algarve, 12 for 6 in Oman). This is 12 for 7 stages, would be good to keep consistent. 

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tony kappler [208 posts] 6 months ago
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Andy,

 again the info says "This competition doesn't count towards any leagues"; it is a world tour event and I see you have ticked the boxes to score for the season standard and purist.

Yes, 14 transfers for 7 stages would seem in order.

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 6 months ago
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The Tour Down Under was 10 for 6 because in the past it's been 2 transfers in between each stage. We might have done 2 more for Oman and Algarve because they aren't counting, and a couple more transfers is a bit of fun. Happy to increase though if that's the general consensus, still 2 days to go.

That text might have been carried over when the competition was created Tony,  I can't see it anywhere on the admin page. It's something for Dave to fix.

Just to clarify, this competition is absolutely counting to the season totals.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

The Tour Down Under was 10 for 6 because in the past it's been 2 transfers in between each stage. We might have done 2 more for Oman and Algarve because they aren't counting, and a couple more transfers is a bit of fun. Happy to increase though if that's the general consensus, still 2 days to go.

That text might have been carried over when the competition was created Tony,  I can't see it anywhere on the admin page. It's something for Dave to fix.

Just to clarify, this competition is absolutely counting to the season totals.

I really like the idea that the the number of transfers equalling the number of stages. That gives two transfers per day but then twice to do a bigger change of three....if that’s the kind of general idea. I know most do far more changes between Sprint > Mountain stages rather than two a day but some races fluctuate a lot between Sprint, roller, Summit and TT which can make for a bit of a stale race. ...When there are races like that those extra two become part of the strategy about when to do the big changes. I just think it works better as shown on the Oman game.

 

The game is a bit of a Morecambe and Wise type of game...we all know the right notes but not necessarily in the right order, and that’s the part of this game at it’s best...trying to work that out....those extra two transfers feed into that nicely.

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triccky100 [176 posts] 6 months ago
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Thanks for the explanation Andy. I would support the transfers equalling the number of stages, Dr Winston has nicely outlined the benefits of this. 

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Seven stages and only 12 transfers?

Isn't that a bit low?

The number of transfer in te last two races confused me.

I'm happy to stick with the old rule, 2 transfers between stages.

I think increasing the number of transfers makes the game less challenging.

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stevemarks [617 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:

Seven stages and only 12 transfers?

Isn't that a bit low?

The number of transfer in te last two races confused me.

I'm happy to stick with the old rule, 2 transfers between stages.

I think increasing the number of transfers makes the game less challenging.

I would go further I prefered the system where you had two transfers per day and you could carry them over if you didn't use them. It made the game even more tactical and in the grand tours you always got 2 transfers on the rest day which was marvelous.....Ah Nostaglia.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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stevemarks wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:

Seven stages and only 12 transfers?

Isn't that a bit low?

The number of transfer in te last two races confused me.

I'm happy to stick with the old rule, 2 transfers between stages.

I think increasing the number of transfers makes the game less challenging.

I would go further I prefered the system where you had two transfers per day and you could carry them over if you didn't use them. It made the game even more tactical and in the grand tours you always got 2 transfers on the rest day which was marvelous.....Ah Nostaglia.

How long have you been playing it Steve?

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stevemarks [617 posts] 6 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:
stevemarks wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:
MinardiM189 wrote:

Seven stages and only 12 transfers?

Isn't that a bit low?

The number of transfer in te last two races confused me.

I'm happy to stick with the old rule, 2 transfers between stages.

I think increasing the number of transfers makes the game less challenging.

I would go further I prefered the system where you had two transfers per day and you could carry them over if you didn't use them. It made the game even more tactical and in the grand tours you always got 2 transfers on the rest day which was marvelous.....Ah Nostaglia.

How long have you been playing it Steve?

Apparently I won the early Classics comp in 2013 so at least that long. not sure whether it's more than a season or two more than that.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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My team for the ITT stage -

ROGLIC
MOSCON
KELDERMAN
BAUHAUS
KITTEL
WALSCHEID
MARTENS
MOSCHETTI

 

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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Here we go.

Ewan 

Viviani

Roglic

Bauhaus

Leezer

Halvorsen

Walscheid

Evenepoel

 

Planning not to use a transfer until day 3.

My dither was Ewan and Halvorsen or Gaviria and Mezgec...went for the former...not even sure why.

How does Evenepoel even fit in ?...two sprinters or is he in the train somewhere ?

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archieboy [89 posts] 6 months ago
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Just a thought, but why was Tony Martin not at the team presentation? 

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Planning not to use a transfer until day 3.

My dither was Ewan and Halvorsen or Gaviria and Mezgec...went for the former...not even sure why.

How does Evenepoel even fit in ?...two sprinters or is he in the train somewhere ?

I'm not planning any transfers until stage 3 either, I'll take a hit on Stage2 as my sprinters are a bit limited.

Evenepoel has a free role to go for it on the Mountain stages.

Gaviria was ill in Columbia and doesn't know his lead out train at all, so Ewan is probably a sfer pick.

Mezgec is very good at posioning and usually does well when he sprints for himself. Halvorsen may get a few pints today but is inconsistent in the sprints. Maybe he should use Mezgec as a lead out :).

Stage 4 at Hatta Dam could be a critical one, usually sprinters do OK but this year there are a lot of talented climbers here. Getting around the climbers and maintaining pace could be a problem for sprinters.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Planning not to use a transfer until day 3.

My dither was Ewan and Halvorsen or Gaviria and Mezgec...went for the former...not even sure why.

How does Evenepoel even fit in ?...two sprinters or is he in the train somewhere ?

I'm not planning any transfers until stage 3 either, I'll take a hit on Stage2 as my sprinters are a bit limited.

Evenepoel has a free role to go for it on the Mountain stages.

Gaviria was ill in Columbia and doesn't know his lead out train at all, so Ewan is probably a sfer pick.

Mezgec is very good at posioning and usually does well when he sprints for himself. Halvorsen may get a few pints today but is inconsistent in the sprints. Maybe he should use Mezgec as a lead out :).

Stage 4 at Hatta Dam could be a critical one, usually sprinters do OK but this year there are a lot of talented climbers here. Getting around the climbers and maintaining pace could be a problem for sprinters.

I spent an entire season last year front loading races with my transfers and then kinda clinging on. In the Algarve game i tried to do it the other way around but was somewhat scuppered by happenstance....namely EBH and Konrad...but the plan was sound...Giving it another go for this one. A thinner day than i could have had for today though maybe.

Yeah. Mezgec is brilliant. Good rider and under used.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

I spent an entire season last year front loading races with my transfers and then kinda clinging on. In the Algarve game i tried to do it the other way around but was somewhat scuppered by happenstance....namely EBH and Konrad...but the plan was sound...Giving it another go for this one. A thinner day than i could have had for today though maybe.

Yeah. Mezgec is brilliant. Good rider and under used.

Keeping transfers until later is  a good tactic.

I've made a bit of a commitment to GC with my choices for the TTT. Hopefully Roglic, Kelderman & Moscon can perform on the climbs. (Kelderman is usually a disaster when I pick him).

I'm very interested to see what happens between Moscon & Kwiatowski. They are joint leaders for Sky and I'm not sure how that will work out.

 

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

I spent an entire season last year front loading races with my transfers and then kinda clinging on. In the Algarve game i tried to do it the other way around but was somewhat scuppered by happenstance....namely EBH and Konrad...but the plan was sound...Giving it another go for this one. A thinner day than i could have had for today though maybe.

Yeah. Mezgec is brilliant. Good rider and under used.

Keeping transfers until later is  a good tactic.

I've made a bit of a commitment to GC with my choices for the TTT. Hopefully Roglic, Kelderman & Moscon can perform on the climbs. (Kelderman is usually a disaster when I pick him).

I'm very interested to see what happens between Moscon & Kwiatowski. They are joint leaders for Sky and I'm not sure how that will work out.

 

Kelderman in instead of Ewan was the obvious alternative...meaning...doubling down on Jumbo and Sunweb for the probable win today for one or the other. So basically Kelderman today or Ewan tomorrow given i've decided not to use any transfers until day 3. 

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triccky100 [176 posts] 6 months ago
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MARCEL KITTEL 

ELIA VIVIANI 

MAX WALSCHEID 

PHIL BAUHAUS 

REMCO EVENEPOEL

PRIMOZ ROGLIC

WILCO KELDERMAN 

MATTEO MOSCHETTI 

 

probably one transfer tomorrow

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Not a bad result for me.

Maybe should have brought another sprinter in rather than Moscon.

Pretty good result for my purist where I have De Plus. Hopefully he can hang on in the mountains.

Amazed that Walscheid managed to hang on to the finish. He could take the leaders jersey with a top3 tomorrow.

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Dr Winston [825 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Not a bad result for me.

Maybe should have brought another sprinter in rather than Moscon.

Pretty good result for my purist where I have De Plus. Hopefully he can hang on in the mountains.

Amazed that Walscheid managed to hang on to the finish. He could take the leaders jersey with a top3 tomorrow.

Good pick with De Plus...I considered him....I went with Valverde Porte Roglic and Nibali as my GC boys in that, so no room at their inn for him. Glad Valverde and Nibali rode well from the comments....Nibali seemed risky.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Good pick with De Plus...I considered him....I went with Valverde Porte Roglic and Nibali as my GC boys in that, so no room at their inn for him. Glad Valverde and Nibali rode well from the comments....Nibali seemed risky.

I think Nibali will do OK, he is usually better early in the season when he is doing the Giro.

Hopefully my tactic of leaving out the top sprinters for tomorrow will pay off in the long run, more transfers later in the race when things are clearer.

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triccky100 [176 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:
Dr Winston wrote:

Good pick with De Plus...I considered him....I went with Valverde Porte Roglic and Nibali as my GC boys in that, so no room at their inn for him. Glad Valverde and Nibali rode well from the comments....Nibali seemed risky.

I think Nibali will do OK, he is usually better early in the season when he is doing the Giro.

Hopefully my tactic of leaving out the top sprinters for tomorrow will pay off in the long run, more transfers later in the race when things are clearer.

I've done the same, bit light on sprinters. Am hoping for a good tour as have had a poor start to season, life getting in the way of fantasy planning, need to get my priorities right!

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Windy day in Abu Dhabi.

Almost certain to be echelons.

Who will get caught out?

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 6 months ago
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I already had Viviani, Bauhaus, Halvorsen, Mareczko, and Walscheid from stage one, flipped a coin for Bennett or Gaviria for today and decided on the former. Can't believe I didn't go for any Jumbo guys yesterday.

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MinardiM189 [683 posts] 6 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

I already had Viviani, Bauhaus, Halvorsen, Mareczko, and Walscheid from stage one, flipped a coin for Bennett or Gaviria for today and decided on the former. Can't believe I didn't go for any Jumbo guys yesterday.

What happens if you get a repeat of Stage 1 in ALgarve angel

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Condor Andy [803 posts] 6 months ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

What happens if you get a repeat of Stage 1 in ALgarve angel

In all honesty, that's probably what's going to happen noindecision

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