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Welsh boy [590 posts] 1 week ago
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Oh no, I hoped we had heard the last of her and her constant cry for attention when she joined the equine set.

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keirik [157 posts] 1 week ago
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Welsh boy wrote:

Oh no, I hoped we had heard the last of her and her constant cry for attention when she joined the equine set.

Tell us again what exactly you've done to raise the profile of cycling and to call for safer cycling ?

thought not.

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RMurphy195 [157 posts] 1 week ago
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I think she has a point.

I long held the belief that car drivers who have not followed the "traditional route" to car driving are not as good as those who have.

By traditional route I mean

    Start by cycling regularly from an early age

    The spend a few years travelling by motorccyle - through sunshine, rain, snow fog the lot all year round

    Then and only then, progress onto cars.

Simples ....

And those car drivers who do cause problems should be made to travel by motorcycle - preferably on wet greasy roads, and preferably on worn-out 1960's japanese tyres. They'll learn a lot that way, or rather the survivors will!

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Doug.F. [33 posts] 1 week ago
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RMurphy195 wrote:

I think she has a point.

I long held the belief that car drivers who have not followed the "traditional route" to car driving are not as good as those who have.

By traditional route I mean

    Start by cycling regularly from an early age

    The spend a few years travelling by motorccyle - through sunshine, rain, snow fog the lot all year round

    Then and only then, progress onto cars.

Simples ....

And those car drivers who do cause problems should be made to travel by motorcycle - preferably on wet greasy roads, and preferably on worn-out 1960's japanese tyres. They'll learn a lot that way, or rather the survivors will!

 

 Good man ,well said.

I completey agree.

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Velovoyeur [81 posts] 1 week ago
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Ms Pendleton is merely the mouthpiece for this notion. She has a profile and a constant quest for attention. However, the most simple option is to link the old cycling proficiency test to the provisional driving licence. By this I mean that inorder to get a provisional driving licence, before you can even drive a car on the roads, you must be able to display an understanding of awareness and road-craft by passing your cycling proficency. This would hopefully mean that everyone who uses a motor vehicle has shown sufficient ability to be on the road and has got experience of one of the most vulnerable road user's perspective of other traffic. Then you can have a provisional licence for a motor vehicle. As an aside, the DoT would like this because it is another thing they can charge for to increase their revenue. 

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LastBoyScout [518 posts] 1 week ago
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Velovoyeur wrote:

However, the most simple option is to link the old cycling proficiency test to the provisional driving licence. By this I mean that inorder to get a provisional driving licence, before you can even drive a car on the roads, you must be able to display an understanding of awareness and road-craft by passing your cycling proficency.

I like your thinking, but it would take a bit of a radical re-think of the cycling proficiency test.

I did mine in primary school, initially in the school grounds and then on a few very quiet residential roads around the school with barely any actual cars around, let alone anything bigger - hardly a thorough introduction to the realities of cycling to actually get somewhere in traffic.

Judging by most of the kids cycling to/from our local secondary schools, most of them seem to have forgotten it all about 5 minutes after getting the certificate, let alone by the time they get to 17.

Perhaps compulsary CBT would be better - infrastructure already in place and only costs around £100.

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atlaz [274 posts] 1 week ago
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Velovoyeur wrote:

By this I mean that inorder to get a provisional driving licence, before you can even drive a car on the roads, you must be able to display an understanding of awareness and road-craft by passing your cycling proficency. 

You are aware not everyone can ride a bike? Ignoring those with physical disabilities, I know quite a few people who never learned to ride (multitude of reasons but most frequently, being clumsy buggers, giving up and not having parents who pushed them). Preventing them from having a driving license, whilst amusing I have to agree, seems to be rubbing salt into the wounds.

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PRSboy [415 posts] 1 week ago
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To be fair the article doesn't reference only cycling... also pedestrians and horseriders.  The main message is put yourself in the shoes of other more vulnerable road users, be more considerate.

Hard to disagree with that.

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Plasterer's Radio [501 posts] 1 week ago
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Constant quest for attention?

Hardly. She does something positive and gets run down for it.

I still rememeber the FHM shoot she did...sigh...heart 

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BudgieBike [30 posts] 1 week ago
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More of a hashed up press release on the autotrader swearatacyclist scheme