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My reading of the Vuelta rules is that there is a daily award for the best young rider in the GC classification, but not a young rider classification as such. So there would be no YR classification points scored in road.cc.  Can anyone clarify?

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tony kappler [187 posts] 2 months ago
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Note that the road.cc profiles are the same as the official Vuelta website, whereas steephill and pcs have a differeent set.

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dave atkinson [6440 posts] 2 months ago
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i think that's right, yes

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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On both points:

We gave out 5 points last year for the 'best young rider award', and not 4-1 for the non-existant classification.

I downloaded the Vuelta ones after they confirmed the route. The PCS and Steephill profiles are still from before and there are distance discrepancies, unless they've fixed them too.

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jollygoodvelo [1747 posts] 2 months ago
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Thanks for highlighting this... affects team planning!

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John John [10 posts] 2 months ago
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Why isn't Jonathan Castroviejo showing under Spanish only when he is available under purist and general?  I suspect there are others missed too.

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dave atkinson [6440 posts] 2 months ago
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John John wrote:

Why isn't Jonathan Castroviejo showing under Spanish only when he is available under purist and general?  I suspect there are others missed too.

looks like he was the only one. he's in now

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John John [10 posts] 2 months ago
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dave atkinson wrote:
John John wrote:

Why isn't Jonathan Castroviejo showing under Spanish only when he is available under purist and general?  I suspect there are others missed too.

looks like he was the only one. he's in now

Thanks. I stand corrected you now have 37 Spanish riders which matches the latest start list. 

 

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enrique [2416 posts] 2 months ago
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I thought the transfers for the Vuelta were 45. They're only 42?... Did they change or were they always 42?.... How many did we have for the Tour?.... sad

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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We've had 42 for all GTs this year.

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Pitbull Steelers [72 posts] 2 months ago
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Why oh why did i pick Porte for my Purist team indecision

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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You may yet be ok Pitbull....could well go for KOM with a bit of luck on your part. I'm wondering why I went with Sagan already....poor pick now I think about it. He struggled to finish the TDF so not much chance if finishing this.

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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An outstanding race by the GC teams today by riding the legs off any slim chance the sprinters and Rolleurs may have had today. Will we see the same tomorrow ?....A flatter finish but  they may well want another Kwia/Valverde match up. Any thoughts?

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triccky100 [158 posts] 2 months ago
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Did Lars Boom come last? 10 points please!

 

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enrique [2416 posts] 2 months ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

We've had 42 for all GTs this year.

Woh! Thanks! I think I should pay a little more attention!... 

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tony kappler [187 posts] 2 months ago
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Dave, the "Spaniards only" comp scores are being added to the overall season purist totals. Can you fix please. (sim to TdF situation).

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triccky100 [158 posts] 2 months ago
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To follow up my previous comment, Cyclingnews does not have complete rider list and incorrectly has Sebastian Langeveld in last place, offical results on Vuelta website has Lars Boom as finishing last, could scores please be updated, cheers

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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When I did the scoring Lars Boom seemingly hadn't finished yet. I do all the scoring based on the Vuelta website.

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triccky100 [158 posts] 2 months ago
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Yes he took his time! Thanks for updating Condor Andy

 

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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Pitbull Steelers wrote:

Why oh why did i pick Porte for my Purist team indecision

Porte in the break on stage 6 with Mate.  Big pts for him and Mate for the rest of the Vuelta if they go into battle for KOM.  More pts than if he was going for GC.

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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Richie Porte wrote:

“I didn’t really have a good run-in so I think I’ve always been honest with my ambitions here and that was to ride for preparation for the Worlds. Day by day I’m starting to feel a little bit better. I think it can actually be good to ride at the back sometimes, there are things to learn. Two days ago I was in the gruppetto. It was nice to see the fans and the party it is.”

From the live ticker today. He might actually be in for a decent 2nd and 3rd week!

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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Yeah...I saw that Andy. Also. Did you see Mate's  interview yesterday. He said he wouldn't do much until Sunday ( obviously firmly set on the KOM jersey) ...Liiks like Porte may have changed his mind on not doing much.

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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I'm not sure he'll go for the KOM still. He'll be happy with a decent upswing in form and a stage win, which he will get if he's in a load of mountains breakaways.

What did Mate say? I know a few days ago he said he wanted the jersey in the first few stages because it was his home territory. I think he'll lose it sometime early next week. Rolland looks good for it, or maybe someone else who hasn't even started to have fun yet.

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Moist von Lipwig [142 posts] 2 months ago
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Any reason why the scores are in but the leagues aren't updating?

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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Update keeps crashing, we're working on it.

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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Fancied riders for stage 7 seem to have changed markedly in the past few hours. Has the course been tweaked or just folk taking a proper look?

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Mark 60 [4 posts] 2 months ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Fancied riders for stage 7 seem to have changed markedly in the past few hours. Has the course been tweaked or just folk taking a proper look?

I tend to agree. I’m sure yesterday they were still talking sprinters and today it’s GC. 

I thought it looked too hard for the sprinters but figured the experts were right. I’ve been chewing through the transfers so I’m not changing again.

Cheering heavily now for the breakaway of no names. 

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Mark 60 [4 posts] 2 months ago
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While I am here,  what are some of the best preview sites out there that people are using. 

I basically check Cycling Weekly, Ciclisimino (?) and C-Cycling but beyond that Haven’t found good stuff.

Anyone want to share?

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Sniffer [529 posts] 2 months ago
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No idea what the best thing to do today is.  My team feels a bit all over the place for a stage like this after being sprint heavy yesterday. 

It is days like this where big gains / losses can be made, but they are a bit stressful.  Simple GC and sprinter days are easier to predict and the differences in teams are therefore much smaller.

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Condor Andy [513 posts] 2 months ago
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I can't see anywhere that the course has been changed. Tbh, I have no idea why everyone is saying this was ever going to be a straight forward sprint stage.  The cat 3 kicker and drag up to the finish aren't that hard, but several teams will need to work together to ensure it. All it takes are a few puncheurs or a couple of GC teams putting the hammer down (maybe a strong breakaway) and the sprinters will be toast.

If Sagan is fully fit, then the stage is ideal for him. Trentin might be a good bet too.  After that it's the puncheurs and GC men. Even Valverde might fancy it or Kwiatkowski.

I can't call it so I'm saving my transfers. Dr Winston, I suspect a lot of people will just see 'Flat' and go sprinters.

Mark 60, I'm on r/peloton on Reddit a lot. Plenty of opinion and prediction theories are discussed. I tend to trust these guys more than anyone else because the discussions are always more thorough. CyclingWeekly and the others tend to be a bit threadbare.  I could start putting a little something on here to give people ideas.

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Dr Winston [202 posts] 2 months ago
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Agreed sniffer. Chasing Rolleurs  can be a mugs way of playing and a way to burn transfers fast...too fast. Either stick with the sprinters or bring in something like Yates and Buchmann for at least some guaranteed points over the next two days and have them ready for Sunday. 

I'm only in a two man league with my brother. He's 6th and I'm 4th but he's used four more transfers than me...so I doubt he'll burn anymore and so will stick with a sprinter heavy team. In that respect sitting on my hands should be ok. 

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