[hawkinspeter]

Apparently, this is “The most significant development since the safety belt”.

From the  BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-43752226

However, the article is mainly interested in car occupant safety and there has been one particularly notable incident involving an XC90 and a pedestrian although Uber had disabled Volvo’s system (probably not fair to count it as a problem with the Volvo).

Personally, I can’t wait until we have robots taking over from inattentive hoomans.

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[don simon fbpe]

No, it might be true though,

No, it might be true though, however it’s not the correct answer.

[hawkinspeter]

He wasn’t wearing a helmet,

He wasn’t wearing a helmet, despite car occupants suffering a large percentage of head injuries?

[don simon fbpe]

No! Try again.

No! Try again.

I might give a prize out for the correct answer.

[hawkinspeter]

don simon wrote:

hughw wrote:

don simon wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

I don’t see the relationship between never breaking the speed limit and no points. For the record I drive like a twat and had a clean licence for over 30 years, that’s a high mileage driver too.

In response to lower speed limits, I don’t see how that wouldn’t work. The A9 up through that there Scotland is limited and uses average-speed cameras, the drive is none the worse and if anything more relaxing.

 

I recently drove down the A9 behind a gentleman driving a Nissan Qashqai, who would drive at 60 – 65 in the single carriageway sections, then at the average speed camera brake hard and slow down to 40-50, before accelerating back to 60 (or 70 for the dual carriageway).

This was extremely un-relaxing, as I had cruise control set to 60, and trying to drive greenly.

I’ll let you work out what you were doing wrong, shall I?

Is it driving in Scotland?

[don simon fbpe]

hughw wrote:

don simon wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

I don’t see the relationship between never breaking the speed limit and no points. For the record I drive like a twat and had a clean licence for over 30 years, that’s a high mileage driver too.

In response to lower speed limits, I don’t see how that wouldn’t work. The A9 up through that there Scotland is limited and uses average-speed cameras, the drive is none the worse and if anything more relaxing.

 

I recently drove down the A9 behind a gentleman driving a Nissan Qashqai, who would drive at 60 – 65 in the single carriageway sections, then at the average speed camera brake hard and slow down to 40-50, before accelerating back to 60 (or 70 for the dual carriageway).

This was extremely un-relaxing, as I had cruise control set to 60, and trying to drive greenly.

I’ll let you work out what you were doing wrong, shall I?

[hughw]

don simon wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

I don’t see the relationship between never breaking the speed limit and no points. For the record I drive like a twat and had a clean licence for over 30 years, that’s a high mileage driver too.

In response to lower speed limits, I don’t see how that wouldn’t work. The A9 up through that there Scotland is limited and uses average-speed cameras, the drive is none the worse and if anything more relaxing.

 

I recently drove down the A9 behind a gentleman driving a Nissan Qashqai, who would drive at 60 – 65 in the single carriageway sections, then at the average speed camera brake hard and slow down to 40-50, before accelerating back to 60 (or 70 for the dual carriageway).

This was extremely un-relaxing, as I had cruise control set to 60, and trying to drive greenly.

[brooksby]

don simon wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

I don’t see the relationship between never breaking the speed limit and no points. For the record I drive like a twat and had a clean licence for over 30 years, that’s a high mileage driver too.

In response to lower speed limits, I don’t see how that wouldn’t work. The A9 up through that there Scotland is limited and uses average-speed cameras, the drive is none the worse and if anything more relaxing.

FAir enough:maybe I should have said “have no points in my licence either”.

(SOrry for late reply, have to wait until I have access to a pc or my wife’s iPad to post comments, since the changes to the road.cc mobile site…)

[Anonymous]

Duncann wrote:

I’ve wondered about this too: all going at 70mph very close together may be safer than going at different speeds very close together – but it still ain’t safe. Does an XC90 gently back off to open a gap with the in-squeezer and give the close-follower a flash of brake light… and allow another chancer in? You’d probably never get to your destination!

In a future when all motor vehicles all behave identically and can communicate with those around them (co-ordinating braking, etc.) then tight convoys might be safe. But such complete systems seem a long way off – there’ll be weak links for a long time.

choo-choo!

 

[ktache]

My other half was driving me

My other half was driving me on the M3 last summer, was still being developed as a “smart” motorway, average 50mph with enforcement, she found it nice to drive and so did I.  All travelling at the same speed, no one doing crazy speed in the “fast” lane, no rapid lane changes to gain an advantage.  Really enjoyable for me and I don’t like being in cars, especially on the motorway.

[don simon fbpe]

brooksby wrote:

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

I don’t see the relationship between never breaking the speed limit and no points. For the record I drive like a twat and had a clean licence for over 30 years, that’s a high mileage driver too.

In response to lower speed limits, I don’t see how that wouldn’t work. The A9 up through that there Scotland is limited and uses average-speed cameras, the drive is none the worse and if anything more relaxing.

[Anonymous]

fenix wrote:

Lots of new cars have this technology – so the more the merrier – and the cheaper it will get. 

 

Adverts for cars are getting more and more bizarre  and ;ess to do with motoring and driving as the reality of driving is pretty grim for most people. 

So you end up with the VW SUV being advertised as tougher than a rambunctious Ram ?

Skoda seems to be selling Paloma Faith.

What was the car that was selling on the basis of it had a dash cam that you could use to send love letters to your other half ?

Stuff like this AEB seems to go unheralded. 

Don’t forget Skoda were also selling the Wiggins lifestyle. Where you aimlessly drive about reservoirs and pretend you’re interested at the school play having retired at 38 like most normal people. 

The most terrifying advert is the Nissan one where apparently braking and acceleration in their new noddy car only needs one pedal. The mind boggles. Even more so at the choice of Paranoid as the Qashqai advert soundtrack, in which your typical nu-mule, beard-cuck meets his dominant other half on her motorbike, because, you know, men are portrayed as fops or fat, thick, slobs in adverts now. 

This is sort of advert people should still be making for cars. Sod PC.

 

[fukawitribe]

Bluebug wrote:

Bluebug wrote:

Speedometers aren’t accurate and indicate a lower speed to ensure you don’t drive over the speed limit.

That might just be the other way around..

[hawkinspeter]

Duncann wrote:

OnYerBike wrote:

hirsute wrote:

I don’t understand how AEB works on say the M11 near Cambridge to Stansted where it is 2 lanes. If you leave an appropriate gap between you and the car in front, then at least one car will fill the gap. Would you not then get rear ended when the brakes kick in ?

I’m by no means an expert, so this might be wrong, but I think the radar detects relative speeds and is therefore looking for something moving towards you very fast (e.g. the back of a stationary car). A car that pulls in front but travelling at a similar speed is not moving much relative to you and therefore would not trigger the system.

I’ve wondered about this too: all going at 70mph very close together may be safer than going at different speeds very close together – but it still ain’t safe. Does an XC90 gently back off to open a gap with the in-squeezer and give the close-follower a flash of brake light… and allow another chancer in? You’d probably never get to your destination!

In a future when all motor vehicles all behave identically and can communicate with those around them (co-ordinating braking, etc.) then tight convoys might be safe. But such complete systems seem a long way off – there’ll be weak links for a long time.

Convoys of trucks have already been tested and that part of the technology works pretty well. I believe some of the tests involve a hooman driver controlling the first vehicle in the convoy and as other trucks join, the computer takes over from their respective drivers. The fuel savings are surprising.

Here in the UK soon:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/25/uk-platooning-trials/

[fenix]

Lots of new cars have this

Lots of new cars have this technology – so the more the merrier – and the cheaper it will get. 

 

Adverts for cars are getting more and more bizarre  and ;ess to do with motoring and driving as the reality of driving is pretty grim for most people. 

So you end up with the VW SUV being advertised as tougher than a rambunctious Ram ?

Skoda seems to be selling Paloma Faith.

What was the car that was selling on the basis of it had a dash cam that you could use to send love letters to your other half ?

Stuff like this AEB seems to go unheralded. 

[brooksby]

Duncann wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I’ve never understood those small commercial vehicles you see around which have a sticker on the back explaining that they are speed limited to 70 mph… I mean: of course they are limited to 70 mph, that’s the national speed limit!

You must be a very law-abiding citizen!

(smug=ON)

I haven’t driven a car for over a year now but I think, yes, pretty much

Pretty sure I’ve never broken the speed limit in my years driving.

Have no points on my licence.

(smug=OFF)

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