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I’m looking for advice on fitting 28mm Schwalbe Marathon Plus tyres to a road bike, B Twin Triban 520. I know the 520 can take up to 28mm, but I’ve also been told by a guy in cycle surgery that these would not fit on a road bike because of the type of rim (no idea what he means). On the flip side I’ve seen online posts about people fitting them on road bikes. Has anyone experience with these tyres, are the intended for Hybrids only?

 

Would there be an issue fitting these to the rims that come with the Triban 520? I ideally wanted 32mm but also need full mudguards.

 

 http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/bike-tyres/schwalbe-marathon-...

 

Thanks in advance!

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StraelGuy [1517 posts] 6 months ago
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Aside from the new hookless rim Hunt have recently invented, I've never heard of any 'different' type of rim on a road bike or hybrid. Aside from reputedly being difficult to fit I can't think of a single reason why you couldn't. I think he's talking twaddle in other words...

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kil0ran [1078 posts] 6 months ago
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I'd be really surprised if you'll get a 28 plus guards on a Triban 520.

The Marathons will fit a road wheel no issues at all, other than the fact they're notoriously tight on the rim. Schwalbe know this and now sell a set of three tyre levers that simplify the initial fit. There's also a Youtube video showing the use of toe straps to help fit the tyres.

In my experience some tyres and rims just don't play nice - they might all be 700c wheels but rim width can be a factor, as can tyre bead design. For example, I had to fight for literally a couple of hours to get a Panaracer Gravelking on one of my wheelsets, whereas another wheel was as easy as a set of Contis.

Typically, particularly in the case of folding tyres, once they've been fitted once and run for a bit they're much easier to replace at the roadside when you've got a puncture.

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sergius [558 posts] 6 months ago
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kil0ran wrote:

Typically, particularly in the case of folding tyres, once they've been fitted once and run for a bit they're much easier to replace at the roadside when you've got a puncture.

 

Unless its cold and wet, in which case have fun!  Annecdotally, I reckon it takes me 2-3 times as long to change an inner tube in the rain/cold versus lovely summer sun.

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cornishpasty02 [2 posts] 6 months ago
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Thanks. 

This is what I'm concerend about, obviosuly I dont want to waste £60+ on a set of new tyres. I use my road bike for the commute through east london, 16 odd miles a day a lot of it on a sometimes wet/muddy towpath. I want something with some tread but also a high puntcure resistance. 

Apparently the 520 can fit a 32, but without mudguards. The guy in the shop said to go for Schwalbe Durano as they have the same puncture resistance but are suitable for road bikes, but they looked really slick. I couldn't find anything online to suggest Marathons won't fit but maybe they just aren't an ideal fit. 

 

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tugglesthegreat [102 posts] 6 months ago
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Marathons are quit tall tyres, ie larger diameter than other 28cc or that's what it seams to me when I fitted them to mine.  If you are tight on clearance that my be an issue.  I'm not familiar with a  B Twin Triban 520 depends on how much space you currently have with the tyres you have fitted.

 

But that is frame clearance and nothing to do with the rims.  I did hear night mare stories about fitting marathons and had no issues.  As long as you get the right size shouldn't be an issue.

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Jamesie [4 posts] 6 months ago
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I have fitted Schwalbe Durano Plus 28s along with SKS narrow mudguards on my 520 and there's loads of clearance. Without guards you'd easily fit 30s and possibly even 32s

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Jamesie [4 posts] 6 months ago
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Duranos are great btw, loads of grip and a noticeable improvement on the stock tyres

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ChasP [42 posts] 6 months ago
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Regarding the rims, older road wheels (as fitted to the first Triban 520's) had narrower rims which didn't work so well with wider tyres, modern rims (current models) are wider and more suitable.

Regarding frame clearance I've fitted several 35mm tyres with no problems but 35mm Marathons wouldn't fit (without mudguards). With guards I'd suggest 28mm Vittoria Randonneurs which fit with good clearance and have good puncture protection. My guess is 28mm Marathons will just fit under guards but with with faff and little clearance for debris.

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mike the bike [1098 posts] 6 months ago
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Might I suggest Mr Pasty, that before buying your tyres you have a look at bicyclerollingresistance.com where you can find some impartial information about many tyres.  As well as how much of your energy is needed to push them along, it covers puncture resistance, weight and construction and also allows you to directly compare one tyre with another.

When you consider that there is a huge amount of anecdotal flannel talked about tyres it could be half-an-hour well spent.

 

PS There are other tyre testing laboratories available. 

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Duncann [1393 posts] 6 months ago
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cornishpasty02 wrote:

 The guy in the shop said to go for Schwalbe Durano as they have the same puncture resistance but are suitable for road bikes

Durano Plus are pretty good for puncture resistance but not as good as Marathon Plus. The anti-puncture strip is thicker in the latter.

www.schwalbe.com/en-GB/road-reader/durano-plus.html

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kil0ran [1078 posts] 6 months ago
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+1 for Randonneurs although they were also a bitch to fit (on Shimano RS11s). Look slightly lower profile than Marathons so should give better clearance. Dirt cheap from Decathlon too.

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Yrcm [44 posts] 6 months ago
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Have got a backup set of Marathon Plus in 28mm for our road tandem for use when we want complete peace of mind, they're chuffing heavy and noticeably affect the weight and feel of the bike but they're not too difficult to fit on those particular rims.

They are super tough tyres, last forever and the 40mm ones we have on our other tandem have never flatted (*touches wood*)

Got Duranos on the road bike and whilst they are a good tyre and roll well they do seem to wear quickly and they're not invulnerable, but one pinch flat and one complete failure in 1900 miles isn't to bad as a record. The failure was just after I fitted them new, so wonder if it was a duff tyre or just plain bad luck.

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Simon E [3381 posts] 6 months ago
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M+ is overkill for most people. The standard Marathon is only £16 at Spa Cycles and is a tough tyre.

Do you really need a treaded tyre? Durano Plus is very good, tougher than most road bike tyres but much better rolling resistance than most touring type tyres like the Marathon. I've used a pair for 2,600 miles of Shropshire's sh*t & stone strewn lanes and they look barely worn (and no p-words). The standard Durano are also excellent tyres. Spa stock the Durano & Durano Plus in several sizes and both folding & wire bead - see the Road Tyres section. BTW I don't have any connection with them other than as a satisfied customer.

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cornishpasty02 [2 posts] 6 months ago
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Thanks for all the advice. 

 

I have bought 2 Vittoria Randonneur II from Planet X so I will see how they go. They're so cheap, after that I'll try the Durano Plus if I dont like them. 

 

 

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Joe Totale [66 posts] 6 months ago
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Simon E wrote:

M+ is overkill for most people. The standard Marathon is only £16 at Spa Cycles and is a tough tyre.

Do you really need a treaded tyre? Durano Plus is very good, tougher than most road bike tyres but much better rolling resistance than most touring type tyres like the Marathon. I've used a pair for 2,600 miles of Shropshire's sh*t & stone strewn lanes and they look barely worn (and no p-words). The standard Durano are also excellent tyres. Spa stock the Durano & Durano Plus in several sizes and both folding & wire bead - see the Road Tyres section. BTW I don't have any connection with them other than as a satisfied customer.

 

I agree with this, a Marathon Plus is overkill for a road bike. Sure punctures can be annoying but I wouldn't sacrifice so much in the way of performance by trying to avoid them. Sometimes punctures will just happen, no matter how thick your tires are. 

A Durano is a much more sensible tyre choice and is tough and grippy without having too much impact on performance. In the end of the day we all buy road bikes as we want a bike to go fast with! A Marathon Plus is a more appropiate tire for a hybrid or adventure bike. 

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Boatsie [230 posts] 6 months ago
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If the Marathon plus are large volume tyres although the same indication of size; they will balloon heaps better and provide a cushion ride.
I just typing, don't know the tyre but they look like a Session tyre I used in terms of size/balloon /cross section.
All my road bikes fit 28mm maxxis yet not all fit 28 mm Session. Probably what the lbs said in different words.
Depending upon bike use, if riding hack tracks, tow paths, etc I'd prefer the slower tyre any day because it's faster on that bumpy stuff due to less jarring. Pretty sure it didn't fit between brake arms due to height. Maybe similar with the Marathon. Plus.

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Fish_n_Chips [558 posts] 6 months ago
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Heavy but comfy.  Good for winter puncture protection.

 

If you get a wire bead, washing up liquid suds help the tyre slide on easily and dries quickly.

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Boatsie [230 posts] 6 months ago
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Fish_n_Chips wrote:

Heavy but comfy.  Good for winter puncture protection.

 

If you get a wire bead, washing up liquid suds help the tyre slide on easily and dries quickly.

Truck tyres being similar to bead use commercial wax or hair conditioner in back yard.
Dishwashing liquid can damage paint.