[eddyhall]

Hi all,

I recently got my new do-almost-everything bike to replace my aging and one dimensional Battaglin S11.

Built up the Kinesis GF_Ti Disc titanium frame with Ultegra Di2, hydraulic discs, Hunt Aero Light wheels – it is an amazing bike that I want to use for almost everything.

To round it out for winter use I need some mudguards. I am running 28mm Shwalbe Pro tubeless tyres and the frame has direct mounts for guards. What do you suggest? I have been looking at the Velo Orange hammered steel black set but I am allergic to rattling and clattering when in use.

To set up for my shopping trips, round town errands and future light touring I will need a rear rack. Again, the frame has direct mounting. I would like either (a) a rack which is very trivial to add and remove or (b) a very light and aerodynamic one. I will do approx 90% of my km without load so I am keen to not be laden during that time. Currently looking at the Tubus Airy or Tubus Logo Titan

What do people think on these topics? Budget is fairly relaxed so long as the products are pretty perfect.

Cheers,
Eddy

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[ktache]

They are not that light and

They are not that light and they are not too aerodynamic but I lust after the Sykes Wooden Fenders.

[MrB123]

One of the cycling websites

One of the cycling websites recently carried a report from a bike show which suggested that Kinesis are bringing out mudguards specifically designed for the Gf_Ti Disc.

[eddyhall]

Finally concluding on this, I

Finally concluding on this, I fitted the wider style of SKS Chromoplastics which seem to be working great.

Cheers,
Eddy

[eddyhall]

Hi all,

Hi all,

To follow up on this I have decided on the Tubus Carry titanium rear rack and I am veering towards the SKS Longboard set for mudguards.

Cheers,

Eddy

[therevokid]

longboards are what you need

longboards are what you need … had them on my gf ti 🙂

never used a rack on mine,  but friends rave about the “airy”

[dottigirl]

eddyhall wrote:

eddyhall wrote:

@dottigirl What do you mean “ask upgrade”? Are they a retailer, online community, or A. N. Other? Thanks everyone

Upgrade Bikes are the Kinesis producer/supplier for the UK – I’m assuming they would be able to guide you to a pair of guards to fit their products.

 

[Mr. Sheep]

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Currently looking at the Tubus Airy or Tubus Logo Titan

I’ve got the non-Titan Tubus Logo Classic on my Surly Disc Trucker, it’s great but it’s not in any sense sleek or light… So it matches my bike perfectly 

Assuming that the Titan is the same design, but made of Ti instead of steel (so lighter?), I think I’d suggest looking at a narrower more aerodynamic rack if you’re rarely carrying stuff.

The logo has the double side rails giving you a usable top platform while keeping your panniers nicely far back and low, which is great (and if you are at any risk of heel strike, might be a deciding factor in favour of the Logo as the extra clearance pretty much removes any chance of that even with the largest of feet / shortest of chainstays) – but it does adds weight and width, so it might not be the right thing for your use?

Once you’ve got it fitted once and have tightened up the supports that go forward to the seat stays (the only real tricky/adjustable bit of the fitting), it should be easy enough to quickly take on and off, though.

Just my 2p on the Logo.

[eddyhall]

@londoncommute The bike is
@londoncommute The bike is great. I have only had the chance to take it out for about 30km so far as we had our 3rd child on Monday. Bit busy for luxury items like riding! It felt very urgent when I took it up a local hill although this could also be the wheels – again a massive upgrade for me.

Alternatives I considered were an Enigma Etape, a Wittson custom, the Reilly T640D, and a J.LAVERACK. I went with the Kinesis after a local test ride worked really well for me plus a enormous discount at Winstanley’s.

@everyone Thanks for all the suggestions for the rack and guards. Keep them coming!

@dottigirl What do you mean “ask upgrade”? Are they a retailer, online community, or A. N. Other?

Thanks everyone

[TypeVertigo]

I’ll cast my vote for SKS

I’ll cast my vote for SKS Longboards, too. Very good. I use the P45 version and I’m on my second set. SKS missed a trick by not supplying rubber washers to mitigate road vibration eventually cracking the things in two near the frame mounting points, but that’s an easy enough mod to do.

Once this pair dies on me, I’m eyeing the PDW Full Metal Fenders as replacement.

Regarding racks, I use an Axiom Streamliner Disc DLX. Not lightweight at 700 g but quite strong for what it is.

[londoncommute]

More importantly, how’s the

More importantly, how’s the bike!  More feedback please.

I’m tempted to get one as a ludicrously expensive winter bike as they do look lovely (the review on here was the most glowing I’ve ever seen for a bike).  What were your thoughts on QR rather than thru axles though?  Also, the three year guarantee seems a bit at odds with the bike for life spiel we use to justify such pricey frames.

What else did you consider?  Looks impossible to find a frame with full guards, direct/flat mount brakes, thru axles and that still has a fairly racey geometry.

[CXR94Di2]

Look at the German bike
Look at the German bike websites. They have dozens of different guards as virtually all of their town bikes use them. I bought a nice set whilst fitting out my daughter`s bike for university.

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guyrwood wrote:

I’ve just fitted SKS Longboards to my steel winter hack and they are easy to fit and are pretty sturdy. Far easier to trim the legs if you use an angle grinder with a cutting disc though.

I clamped the stays in mole grips just above where I wanted to cut, and used a junior hacksaw to cut them.   Only a two minute job.

[DaveE128]

guyrwood wrote:

I’ve just fitted SKS Longboards to my steel winter hack and they are easy to fit and are pretty sturdy. Far easier to trim the legs if you use an angle grinder with a cutting disc though.

Indeed, cutting disc or bolt croppers for cutting stays on SKS guards – it’s a real hassle with a hacksaw! They are rattle free once fitted properly, and reasonably sturdy.

If you want a really light and aero rack, it might be worth looking into  this:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tailfin/tailfin-ultra-light-carbon-bike-rack-and-panniers

I haven’t got any experience of them, though obviously… probably still quite a wait for them too. I don’t know if their rack mount stretch goal is happening either.

Not sure I fancy a pannier wearing away at carbon fibre though – mine are wearing away at an aluminium rack at a fairly fast rate!

[StraelGuy]

I’ve just fitted SKS

I’ve just fitted SKS Longboards to my steel winter hack and they are easy to fit and are pretty sturdy. Far easier to trim the legs if you use an angle grinder with a cutting disc though.

[Anthony.C]

No point in getting the pdws

No point in getting the pdws if you have full mudguard fittings and clearance, I have them and they rattle horribly on rough roads, they only have one stay so they are not as rigid as others. SKS Bleumels should do the trick, you can get them with no mudflaps, just a front flap and a reflector or 2 flaps. I just ordered some today with the flaps front and back to go on my first winter build. Other brands are available..

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