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Well, it's over a week away but it's a pretty intriguing scenario. The profiles are up at http://www.letour.fr/paris-nice/2014/us/overall-route.html but their race preview comments seem to be true (http://www.letour.fr/paris-nice/2014/us/pre-race/news/ahc/the-race-to-th...). "With a course completely devoid of time trialling and decisive climbs, the 72nd edition of Paris–Nice is one for the all-rounders....the absence of a time-trial... steep, rough climbs rather than highly selective ascents will reward audacity over the natural talent of the mountaineers. " Then it goes on to say the "title might still depend on the time bonuses to be picked up on the finish line!"

The only mountaintop finish is a Cat 2, at the end of Stage 6, it seems tailor made for Luis Leon Sanchez!  1 But he's not there!  40

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 2 years ago
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Never mind LuLu....Sammy would be the man with those steep looking downhill run ins on stage 5 and 8.

Anyone remember who faceplanted from yellow jersey last season?

Other daredevils on the downhill I'll leave you to find for yourselves!!

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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It looks like PCS has full rosters for every team going to PN!  4 When do we get to start?  16 I'm ready!  4

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TERatcliffe26 [4571 posts] 2 years ago
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enrique wrote:

It looks like PCS has full rosters for every team going to PN!  4 When do we get to start?  16 I'm ready!  4

PCS may well do, but I have no official rosters as of yet

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

... I have no official rosters as of yet

Are you looking at each team's website or the race start list?

By the way, will rider values be reevaluated after the weekend races? So, for example, can we expect Hofland and Boonen to be pricier, or will they keep the same values as in the Spring Classics competition?

Is the reason you wait so that you make the least amount of changes later? Just wondering, 'cause PCS has been so reliable!

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TERatcliffe26 [4571 posts] 2 years ago
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enrique wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:

... I have no official rosters as of yet

Are you looking at each team's website or the race start list?

By the way, will rider values be reevaluated after the weekend races? So, for example, can we expect Hofland and Boonen to be pricier, or will they keep the same values as in the Spring Classics competition?

Is the reason you wait so that you make the least amount of changes later? Just wondering, 'cause PCS has been so reliable!

Bit of both, nothing has come out of paris-nice and not browsed all the sites yet, will do that wednesday.

In terms of the starlists and waiting, PCS may be reliable and are good for late changes as they do get the information, however those riders they have on there site are speculation at the moment (which may end up being correct, as they will have info from different sources) but none are confirmed except for Orica. They put a green tick above those that are official and only one is official.

I did the rider values last week, so unless Dave has re-done them they wont take into account this weekends results, and they will be different from the classics values

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I did the rider values last week...

Can we take a look at them?  4 In a zip file maybe?... I hate waiting till Wednesday...  4

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TERatcliffe26 [4571 posts] 2 years ago
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enrique wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I did the rider values last week...

Can we take a look at them?  4 In a zip file maybe?... I hate waiting till Wednesday...  4

Well I now have official startlists so will update them tonight and give Dave a nudge to open the race in the morning

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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TERatcliffe26 wrote:

I now have official startlists so will update them tonight and give Dave a nudge to open the race in the morning

You're the man! Thanks!  1

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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Can we open Paris Nice like Strade Bianche was open? With the rosters of all the teams that are riding? The start list at PCS is pretty much complete, with all teams having a full roster on the site and 12 confirmed teams. My impression is that what's more important right now is probably the values of the riders we want on our teams. I think many of us feel pretty good about who we want to choose, it's just a matter of knowing what budget we're playing within and whether we can fit in the riders we want or not. Thanks!

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TERatcliffe26 [4571 posts] 2 years ago
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Ive done preliminary startlists, told you I was doing this last night, and Id let Dave know it was ready, which I did, so it will be open soon, probably in the morning. It has nothing to do with the startlists/teams, its about not having too much stuff open at once or too early. As it starts sunday, most will pick teams friday night or saturday anyway

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simoncon [54 posts] 2 years ago
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Roster looks good, will be in Mougins and Nice for the final 2 stages. Shame they dropped the TT as it was spectacular day in 2012

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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Yay! We're up!  1 But the budget is at 140?  2

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Twybaydos [447 posts] 2 years ago
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I'm afraid you have the wrong Yates brother - Simon is doing P-Nice

http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/paris-nice-preview--chasing-stage-wins

Shame they don't cost the same

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 2 years ago
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There's a lot of good Young 'uns  8

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chrisdstripes [1716 posts] 2 years ago
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Twybaydos wrote:

I'm afraid you have the wrong Yates brother - Simon is doing P-Nice

http://www.greenedgecycling.com/news/paris-nice-preview--chasing-stage-wins

Shame they don't cost the same

Thanks Twybados, they nearly fooled me there...

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Ghedebrav [1099 posts] 2 years ago
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When I first saw the course and the fact that there was no TT, nor was the Col D'Eze present I thought "Pah, another step towards this race's irrelevance courtesy of the boneheads at ASO"

But...

On reflection I really like the fact that rather than being an early training race for TdF, as it was becoming, Paris-Nice is having a bit of character returned to it. It's a race for the buccaneering all-rounder who can hang with the mountain goats and punch up the steep segments, as well as providing plenty of good sprinty action early doors and mucho breakaway potential. If the teams/riders show up for this one, it could be a pivotal edition of this venerable but fading race. Here's hoping, anyway.

EDIT: I see the Col D'eze is present. Silly me. Comment still stands though  1

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 2 years ago
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big question for me is Meersman or Boonen?  39

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TERatcliffe26 [4571 posts] 2 years ago
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Rosters have now been updated, think I caught everything. If any changes happen tomorrow I will do them tomorrow night when I get back from Norwich, so they will get done, just may be late on

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Twybaydos [447 posts] 2 years ago
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One thing factored in TER's updates but not detailed - Porte is out. Froome has back-knack so Porte moves to Italy. Everyone is happy with this

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/03/news/aso-angry-portes-shift-tirre...

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sanderville [326 posts] 2 years ago
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It's too hard. I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, and without wishing to start a whole flaming argument, how come Meersman is "AR" and Terpstra is "PC"?

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Ghedebrav [1099 posts] 2 years ago
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livestrongnick wrote:

big question for me is Meersman or Boonen?  39

Ha! Perhaps rather foolishly, I have neither. Degenkolb instead. Meersman seems overpriced (though that's what I thought about Kwiatkowski in the Algarve so what do I know?).

You have given me food for thought with Boonen, though. If nothing else, form's form  39

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enrique [2323 posts] 2 years ago
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Sanderville wrote:

... I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard....

I wish we had a bigger budget!  20

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Ghedebrav [1099 posts] 2 years ago
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Budget is right. We can't all pick the same stars.

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ray silvester [1836 posts] 2 years ago
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buccaneering all-rounder who can hang with the mountain goats and punch up the steep segments, as well as providing plenty of good sprinty action early doors and mucho breakaway potential.

That's pretty much Chava's Wiki page entry!!

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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Sanderville wrote:

It's too hard. I need more money. I know I say that every year but it's always too hard.

Maybe this isn't the place to ask, and without wishing to start a whole flaming argument, how come Meersman is "AR" and Terpstra is "PC"?

AR and PC are based purely on past scores. The classics and the Tour of Qatar are generally flat which means Terpstra scores most of his points on flat stages meaning he gets a PC or 'Points Classification' listing suggesting he's a sprinter. Meersman on the other hand scores on flat and MM stages (lumpy days or up hill sprints) meaning he scores points across different terrain and gets the AR or 'All Rounder' listing.

Its not done subjectively, its all based on past stage scores and the types of terrain they succeed on.

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sanderville [326 posts] 2 years ago
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Thank you, doctor. So in the case of the Schlecks "DS" stands for something other than domestic.

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chiv30 [986 posts] 2 years ago
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Sanderville wrote:

Thank you, doctor. So in the case of the Schlecks "DS" stands for something other than domestic.

I'n the case of the schlecks it stands for "Don't Select!"

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drheaton [3318 posts] 2 years ago
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DS is domestique and just covers anyone under a certain value which is usually about 15 credits.

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livestrongnick [2118 posts] 2 years ago
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Ghedebrav wrote:
livestrongnick wrote:

big question for me is Meersman or Boonen?  39

Ha! Perhaps rather foolishly, I have neither. Degenkolb instead. Meersman seems overpriced (though that's what I thought about Kwiatkowski in the Algarve so what do I know?).

You have given me food for thought with Boonen, though. If nothing else, form's form  39

Boonen probably just using this as training for classics and Meersman will get the nod, gone with neither in the end. All out sprint train for 3 stages  4

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Twybaydos [447 posts] 2 years ago
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Late adjustment - Tanel Kangert is out of P-Nice, doing Roma-Maxima instead. Agnoli in Astana team instead

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