Dickhead riders!

don simon fbpe · 2024-02-04T16:57:32+00:00

Out for a pootle today as the weather's quite mild and it's nice to get outside. Most of my UK riding is done on cycle paths due to dickhead drivers. Today's ride was the Millennium/Dee coastal path and the spur up towards Parkgate. A nice wide path which is used by many local clubs of which I have complained about before. It's a shared path you dickheads! Anyway, back to today, oncoming club ride with riders taking up most of the path, no obvious shouts from the "leader" nor hand movements. I will always take the primary position and more than happy to let other path users have 50% of the path. One of this club, who I know and will be contacting, shouted to "move over". I passed them again as they were returning back up Wirral to their club in the north, again holding the primary position and this time hearing the shout of "push him over". This is not the attitude I'd expect from a cyclist and especially not in the current era where cyclists have been pushed and seriously injured by dickhead drivers. I will be contacting the club and asking that this dickhead rider justifies his comments. Rant over.

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February 4, 2024 at 4:57 pm #32787

don simon fbpe

Out for a pootle today as the weather’s quite mild and it’s nice to get outside. Most of my UK riding is done on cycle paths due to dickhead drivers.
Today’s ride was the Millennium/Dee coastal path and the spur up towards Parkgate. A nice wide path which is used by many local clubs of which I have complained about before. It’s a shared path you dickheads!
Anyway, back to today, oncoming club ride with riders taking up most of the path, no obvious shouts from the “leader” nor hand movements. I will always take the primary position and more than happy to let other path users have 50% of the path. One of this club, who I know and will be contacting, shouted to “move over”.
I passed them again as they were returning back up Wirral to their club in the north, again holding the primary position and this time hearing the shout of “push him over”.

This is not the attitude I’d expect from a cyclist and especially not in the current era where cyclists have been pushed and seriously injured by dickhead drivers.

I will be contacting the club and asking that this dickhead rider justifies his comments.
Rant over.
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February 18, 2024 at 3:05 pm #1020289
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don simon fbpe

You didn’t, you jjust didn’t

You didn’t, you jjust didn’t mention their comments at all, your preference was to focus on directions of travel and as I said that was just my reading of your comments.

Indeed, it is my word against theirs and I know what I heard. In over 40 years of riding solo and in groups, involuntarily or not, I have never, I repeat never, heard “move over” as an internal command. But if it were just that I would have let it slip and continued on with my life.

“push him over” clarified that it was a comment directed at me, and as for what had happened, I assume it was that I held a primary position and they had to wobble in order to share the path. Intonation and volume was a big giveway too.

Choose a video camera to support my claims? The simple answer that one is no!! You can make a judgement on who I am with info that you have available and whether I am of honest/truthful character, or not. The last time I emailed a club was 8 years ago, they responded positively. Not really a habitual whinger, in spite of club riders giving me many opportunities ( I do actually have video and Strava evidence of that one).

This was posted to raise an issue and see what happens, the club in question has responded suitably, the explanation of being an internal “move over” is complete bullshit, the ignoring of “push him over” is confirmation of that. The sending of an internal memo is sufficient.

Finally, the club still hasn’t been named.

enjoy your club rides, just don’t be a dickhead.

February 18, 2024 at 2:59 pm #1020293
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don simon fbpe

So bring it to the table.

So bring it to the table.

February 18, 2024 at 2:56 pm #1020291
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Greenpedal

Evidence
Evidence

February 18, 2024 at 2:09 pm #1020287
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don simon fbpe

Can’t I play with the troll?

Can’t I play with the troll?

February 18, 2024 at 2:08 pm #1020285
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Hirsute

pure trolling.

pure trolling.

February 18, 2024 at 2:02 pm #1020283
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Oldfatgit

Where did I say that I found
Where did I say that I found their comments acceptable?

I wasn’t there, I only have your word on what happened.

“Move Over” *could* have been defended as a shout from with in the group to another group member.

It is ambiguous as a shout.

“Push him over” – harder to defend … but without proof of video / audio, it’s your word against their’s – and you are out numbered by x to 1. Not right, but that’s the way it goes.

Do I agree that some club riding is appalling? Yes. Even in the club I belong to, faster groups can overtake slower groups [of the same club] like dicks.

Did something happen? … I’ve only your word on it, and tbh, your just a stranger on the Internet and I don’t know *you* – just like you don’t know *me*.
You feel strongly enough that something *did* happen as you’ve opened a thread on here, emailed the club and posted their responses.

I suggested that by using better language it would have been harder for the club to defend. I’ve also said what language would have expected from the club riders.

I wish you well in your pursuit of this and suggest that in future you consider writing your complaint letters based on the assumption that the respondent wasn’t there.

You may also choose to purchase a video camera to support your claims in the future.

Good luck, and happy riding.

February 18, 2024 at 1:39 pm #1020281
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don simon fbpe

Why do dickhead drivers come

This evidence based or pure opinion?

February 18, 2024 at 10:29 am #1020279
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Greenpedal

” Most of my UK riding is
” Most of my UK riding is done on cycle paths due to dickhead drivers.”
So says a di**head cyclist

February 17, 2024 at 1:49 pm #1020277
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john_smith

Typical wannabe racers who

Typical wannabe racers who don’t know to ride. Experienced cyclists tend to slow right down and ride single file in situations like this.

February 17, 2024 at 1:21 pm #1020275
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don simon fbpe

Oldfatgit wrote:

Oldfatgit wrote:
I’m gonna say that in your email [as posted above], direction of travel is ambiguous. ‘Coming 2 or 3 abreast could be interpreted as from behind or from the front. A simple “towards me” or from “behind me” would have removed any ambiguity and made the riders actions harder to defend. It reads to me like the respondent has chosen to take the ‘from behind, hence the explanation. As a regular club rider of both road and gravel, I would have expected – From behind: nose [or equivalent], single up, keep right From approach: nose [or equivalent], single up, keep left True, there are accompanying hand signals, but if your gonna shout … you shout properly.

Am I right in thinking that you can’t determine whether “move over” or “push him over” are acceptable, or not, unless you know the direction of travel…?

EDIT: Having thought a bit, direction have some bearing, club riders do have a tendency to close pass and upon questioning respond that it’s perfectly safe and one should learn how to ride in a group (or go home?). Which puts the actions of this group into question even further, why didn’t they close ranks, half wheel, bang bars and show me just how bloody great they are?

February 17, 2024 at 10:55 am #1020273
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hawkinspeter

mark1a wrote:
Club Admin Droid wrote:

I have soul access to the club email and I have been on holiday this week.

February 17, 2024 at 8:36 am #1020271
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Oldfatgit

I’m gonna say that in your
I’m gonna say that in your email [as posted above], direction of travel is ambiguous.

‘Coming 2 or 3 abreast could be interpreted as from behind or from the front.
A simple “towards me” or from “behind me” would have removed any ambiguity and made the riders actions harder to defend.

It reads to me like the respondent has chosen to take the ‘from behind, hence the explanation.

As a regular club rider of both road and gravel, I would have expected –
From behind: nose [or equivalent], single up, keep right
From approach: nose [or equivalent], single up, keep left

True, there are accompanying hand signals, but if your gonna shout … you shout properly.

February 16, 2024 at 10:50 pm #1020269
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john_smith

“I am also deranged enough to

“I am also deranged enough to take the head on collision.”

Respect. There have been times I wished I was. Unfortunately the self-preservation instinct always kicks in at the last minute.

February 16, 2024 at 10:25 pm #1020267
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chrisonabike

But I thought he said they

But I thought he said they were roadies?

February 16, 2024 at 9:08 pm #1020265
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mark1a

Club Admin Droid wrote:

Club Admin Droid wrote:

I have soul access to the club email and I have been on holiday this week.
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