Anti-Cycling Barrier Safari

mattw · 2023-08-03T10:05:01+01:00

This is an anti-access barrier from the 2006 Notts Cycle Design Standards. Does one exist anywhere - it's like something from a 1970s schlock horror movie? Piccie in reply.

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August 3, 2023 at 10:05 am #32662

mattw

This is an anti-access barrier from the 2006 Notts Cycle Design Standards.

Does one exist anywhere – it’s like something from a 1970s schlock horror movie?

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August 4, 2023 at 8:04 am #1015819
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mattw

Thanks for this.

Thanks for this.

Put it on twitter and it is getting some traction.

It won’t fix the issue, but every little helps.

August 3, 2023 at 2:19 pm #1015817
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chrisonabike

Dangerous art you say?

Dangerous art you say?

Fatal attractions?

Or maybe just an auto-destructive collection?

Where does some UK cycle infra sit in that group?

August 3, 2023 at 2:02 pm #1015815
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wycombewheeler

mattw wrote:
L “Vlad the Impaler”

Vlad the Impala

August 3, 2023 at 1:52 pm #1015813
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Tom_77

Not sure if that’s quite what

Not sure if that’s quite what he had in mind…

August 3, 2023 at 12:37 pm #1015811
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Drinfinity

I really liked that artwork,

I really liked that artwork, but I only ever saw it from a very safe distance!

August 3, 2023 at 12:21 pm #1015809
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chrisonabike

mattw wrote:
That is imo the barrier equivalent of the artistic cycle stands at the Scottish Parliament – an animated definition of crap.

In general I like a bit of novelty in the public space (and these ones indeed). However what we need in the UK now is functional, standard infra and “street furniture”. Military grade if you will; no thought to “looks good”, just the cheapest which will reliably get the job done (most of the existing UK stuff is “too cheap” or plain wrong in some way) so we can build enough to get it everywhere ASAP.

August 3, 2023 at 12:02 pm #1015807
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mattw

Like it – an A-Barrier in a

Like it – an A-Barrier in a cocktail dress.

My favourite dodgy artwork was the now removed “Vlad the Impaler” by Thomas Heatherwick, from Manchester, which started dropping spikes.

It was 184ft high and Manchester received £1.7m compensation from the artist.

August 3, 2023 at 10:43 am #1015805
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mattw

It’s featured as a creative

It’s featured as a creative cycle speed reduction barrier – presumably by removing teeth. I linked the 2006 Guidance Doc where it features as “what has been done elsewhere”.

That is imo the barrier equivalent of the artistic cycle stands at the Scottish Parliament – an animated definition of crap.

The standard is actually good in it’s approach for the time, and talks about ‘bollards are best’, and more restrictive barriers only when there is compelling evidence of a problem, but as ever Councils and Developers went for the cheapest, legal minimum solution that is wanted by Nimbies and the Police. So we have thousands of fvcking A-Barriers, K-Barriers, Kissing Gates, and 1.5m pitch double chicanes.

And – that I do not see other people mentioning – Pedestrian and Toucan crossings which do not meet legal access standards for wheelchaiirs.

August 3, 2023 at 10:41 am #1015803
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Tom_77

Tried doing a Google Image

Tried doing a Google Image Search. Couldn’t find that particular barrier, but it did lead me to this example from https://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/cam362im.html

August 3, 2023 at 10:37 am #1015801
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brooksby

WTAF is that?? That’s

WTAF is that?? That’s horrendous.

August 3, 2023 at 10:06 am #1015799
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mattw

Source doc, page 65:

Source doc, page 65:

https://nacto.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Nottinghamshire-Cycling-Design-Guide-2006.pdf
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