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January 17, 2023 at 9:05 am #32408
brooksby
The Cult of Bike Helmets
The history—and danger—of a modern safety obsession.you don’t have to read it, y’know…

https://slate.com/technology/2023/01/bike-helmets-cyclist-deaths-do-you-need-to-wear.html
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andystow
OldRidgeback wrote:hawkinspeter wrote:HoarseMann wrote:Brauchsel wrote:only very rarely step in dogshit or on broken glass in normal daylight conditions. I always wear shoes though.I always wear shoes when cycling, even though there’s less risk of stepping on glass or in poo.
But do you wear a helmet when walking? If not, then why not? People fall over and hit their heads when walking. Surely it’s no less onerous putting on a helmet for a walk to the shops, than it is for riding there on a bike?
Far more important is the shower helmet, the stairs helmet and the lightbulb changing/ladder helmet
You forgot the vheicle occupant helmet
Surely the pub chair helmet comes first!
OldRidgeback
hawkinspeter wrote:HoarseMann wrote:Brauchsel wrote:only very rarely step in dogshit or on broken glass in normal daylight conditions. I always wear shoes though.I always wear shoes when cycling, even though there’s less risk of stepping on glass or in poo.
But do you wear a helmet when walking? If not, then why not? People fall over and hit their heads when walking. Surely it’s no less onerous putting on a helmet for a walk to the shops, than it is for riding there on a bike?
Far more important is the shower helmet, the stairs helmet and the lightbulb changing/ladder helmet
You forgot the vheicle occupant helmet
Simon_MacMichael
Flintshire Boy wrote:How was the meal?Fantastic – Zedel, faux-Parisian brasserie behind Picadilly Circus, amazing space and lovely food; also just round the corner from Rapha for post-lunch shopping purposes.
Hirsute
Not what is claimed here !
Not what is claimed here !
https://www.brain-injury-law-center.com/blog/scrum-caps-rugby/
wycombewheeler
I don’t see it as an
I don’t see it as an impediment, I just see it as pointless, and with winter hats that prvent wearing glasses over straps, quite uncomfortable.
Seeing as the risk of traumatic brain injury from walking 5km is higher than the risk of traumatic brain injury from cycling 5km. I don’t see any reason to adopt a higher standard of protection for a cycle commute than would be expected if I walked.
Now, If I am ridin all day, or riding in a group with inhernet risk of wheel touches, or riding off road, then the risk profile changes. So I will wear a helmet, but for short distance utility cycling, i might or might not. And no one will convince me that I am accepting a risk significantly greater than the general population with no walking, driving, using the stairs, or showering helmets.
Cyclists are not the main source of head injuries presenting at A&E
Rendel Harris
hirsute wrote:Like a scrum cap is going to protect your head.To be fair no rugby player wears one thinking it will protect their brain (yes I know, as if we have anything to protect, before anyone else gets in there), they wear them, as I did in the later stages of my playing time when I moved into the forwards, to prevent cuts that you will have to leave the field to get treated and to stop cauliflower ears.
Flintshire Boy
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How was the meal?
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How was the meal?
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Simon E
Always nice when family
Always nice when family members are so caring that they lecture you about a subject about which you probably know considerably more than them.
Depending on the fit and shape, a helmet may not have prevented the cut anyway. A few years ago a group of clubmates came down while riding on a closed circuit when a rabbit ran across the tarmac. My friend’s helmet didn’t prevent a sizeable gash across her cheekbone, which thankfully didn’t require medical attention.
Hirsute
Like a scrum cap is going to
Like a scrum cap is going to protect your head.
Rendel Harris
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:I was asked that after gouging a thick stripe in my knee. I said ‘not on my knee’ and they left it.I was once taken to hospital from the rugby field with a torn cruciate ligament, where I was asked, “Were you wearing head protection?” My response was exactly the same as yours!
JustTryingToGetFromAtoB
I was asked that after
I was asked that after gouging a thick stripe in my knee. I said ‘not on my knee’ and they left it.
ChrisB200SX
Did the solicitor accept that the cause of the crash, and therefore injury was the road defect, and that not wearing a magic did not cause the crash (and therefore injury)?Simon_MacMichael wrote:I came off the bike last month due to a road defect, hit my head, no helmet, a few hours in A&E waiting for stitches to cut between eyebrow/temple.I was surprised that during triage etc I wasn’t asked whether I had been wearing one, I’d assumed that was standard for cycling-related A&E admissions?
I did get a bit of a grilling over it at family pre-Christmas lunch a few days later, though … from a sibling who is a solicitor specialising in personal injury claims defence, it felt more like being in the witness box rather than a swish West End restaurant.
(PS The bike was okay(
Simon_MacMichael
I came off the bike last
I came off the bike last month due to a road defect, hit my head, no helmet, a few hours in A&E waiting for stitches to cut between eyebrow/temple.
I was surprised that during triage etc I wasn’t asked whether I had been wearing one, I’d assumed that was standard for cycling-related A&E admissions?
I did get a bit of a grilling over it at family pre-Christmas lunch a few days later, though … from a sibling who is a solicitor specialising in personal injury claims defence, it felt more like being in the witness box rather than a swish West End restaurant.
(PS The bike was okay(
brooksby
I have some common sense
I have some common sense

ChrisB200SX
I think you should stop preaching and stop making the straw man arguments about people being preachy about not wearing helmets. I don’t think I have ever seen anyone say that cyclists should not wear helmets. I suggest you have conflated the argument for not enforcing people t wear helmets with your idea that people should not wear helmets. The ONLY preaching I’ve seen is by those who insist or suggest that people riding bikes should wear helmets.Adam Sutton wrote:Same. Since starting cycling again a few years ago I have had two accidents, both at low speed and not involving a car. One where a bee flew into my face and I fell off, the other on a greasy road where the bikd slipped out on a corner and I hit my head on a kerb. Both instances I was glad I was wearing a helmet.It amuses me this eye rolling attitude “cult of bike helmets” jog on FFS. If you don’t want to wear a helmet fine, but Christ on a bike (with a helmet? who cares) people can be way more preachy about not wearing helmets.
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