Bike jobs you loathe

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    kil0ran

    As a fairly experienced home mechanic who also does bike stuff for friends and family I’m wondering, what are the jobs you hate doing and always end up getting a mate to do/taking it to your LBS?

    Being winter season (although it’s 16 degrees today so I was out in full summer kit) I’ve done a few mudguard installs recently which I find quite therapeutic. I also like doing bar tape, as long as I get to choose what I’m wrapping. The only stuff that goes to my LBS is cutting fork steerers and chasing and facing, although that’s more down to insurance and the tools being very expensive.

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  • #1008007
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    KDee

    That is exactly what I was

    That is exactly what I was taught as a young lad working part-time in my LBS workshop. It’s pretty amazing how straight you get a wheel again by being methodical and patient like that.

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    KDee

    I’m 100% with you on this.

    I’m 100% with you on this. Currently putting off replacement of the outer loop at the rear derailluer as it’s carrying a little damage. I know I might as well replace the inner while I’m at it (inner will definitely try to fray going into a new section), but really just can’t be arsed.

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    chrisonabike

    True – as they haven’t been

    True – as they haven’t been on my own bikes (so eventually upgraded if not up to stuff) they’ve possibly been low end and just not very good.  Can be like trying to use cooked spaghetti as a ruler.

    On the plus side it doesn’t tend to involve the use of a file / “you’ve got one shot at this”.

    #1008001
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    IanMSpencer

    Then there is trying to

    Then there is trying to balance them. WHatever you do, one moves and the other sticks. Ah, I’ll tweak the tensioner – problem swaps over.

    When I was pro, the worst to adjust were the cheap Apollo brakes where the legs were plastic so you could not get any brake pressue, they would just flex. I used to be able to get Tektro V-brakes for about £1.50 a set in bulk. Any time I had an Apollo in I would simply refit those as I reckoned I would spend far more than £1.50 of my time not getting the Apollo originals to work.

    As for adjusting – it became easy with practice several times a day – firstly reset adjuster on lever, you just learned the sequence of the 93 odd shaped objects you had to juggle onto the brake bolt, do a test swing to check whether it was thin or thick inside (generally MTBs thick inside, hybrids, thin inside), grasp the brake together against rim, pull cable through, back off about 1/4″. tighten, spin wheel, tweak, job done.

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    Awavey

    exactly this, all the spacers

    exactly this, all the spacers, the weird concave bobbins things, they all seem infinitely adjustable, which just means its a pain to set up. I think one of the pivots is corroded as its sticking abit, or the spring doesnt spring as much anymore.

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    ktache

    The rhombidish ones. Kona put

    The rhombidish ones. Kona put them on some of their top end MTBs, I reckon someone had insisted on Vs, the shop Cycology in Crowthorn, gave them to me as I was moving up to Birmingham. 

    I had to make my own straddle cables out of 2mm brake cable (difficult enough to find, the XT braided one was better than the standard twist) filing down the perpendicular barrel to a smaller in line one.

    The rears were always easier to set up, for some reason, and once I’d fitted the brake booster to the front, it could take many frustrating hours to get those right. There were occasions I would have to give up, set up the Good Bike for the commute and try again later in the week once I’d built up a bit more will to try some more.

    #1007995
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    chrisonabike

    Clearly a case of practice

    Clearly a case of practice then – I’ve mostly owned cantis with the occasional visit from a V brake!  I’d have been happy to spend the time on curve ones though, they did look the biz.

    #1007993
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    ktache

    Pop the springs out and bring

    Pop the springs out and bring the arms together with an elastic band. Adjust the pads with that bit of pressure, then tighten.

    Now my Curve cantis, took about a decade to get really good and develop a bit of a system, and I had to fettle them a lot to get anywhere near the best out of them. But my bike shop gave them to me, and they looked so cool, and done right, they did have more power than the Shimano units they replaced.

    #1007991
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    ktache

    But looking after the

    But looking after the drivetrain, no matter how tiresome, is the job that brings the most benefit.

    My commute can be especially filthy, and used to sometimes require a nightly wipe down, with a deeper clean at the weekends. Otherwise noisy and bad shifting would result.

    Now with my rohloff set up, it’s a lot less essential and far quicker, but the start of the week was so wet that I did have to do my first midweek clean and lube this week.

    Got the mud tyres out, to get them nice and round on Wednesday, but by Thursday it had started drying up. So not quite yet.

    So, I’m going to add a job that I really could do without, trying to get the old dried on rubber solution off tubeless tyres. And there is a lot of surface on my 27.5+. And fitting tubeless. Fitting tubed was never fun and joy filled, but was relatively quick and easy, I’m not looking forward to fitting the mud tyres.

    I have never fitted Marathon’s.

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    chrisonabike

    Replacing V brakes.  Maybe I

    Replacing V brakes.  Maybe I don’t get regular enough practice?  Theory – you can just fettle until you get there.  For me it always ends up more effort than I think it will.  Seems to be a 3-handed job, with parts which get brake crud all over you.  You’ve got a tight nut to loosen, the spring of the brake arm pushing against you – oh yes, disconnect that first.  All the parts move a bit and in several axes.  Which way round do I need the spacers?  Now I’ve got it nearly there but then I have to loosen the nut to adjust – ah, the whole thing falls out of alignment again.  The bike seems to get in the way as you move about – note to self get a stand again.  Then you discover the cable’s too short now, adjust that, seems OK, then you notice that the brakes still catch – ah, the wheel’s not centred in the fork for some reason so the arms aren’t parallel.  Or maybe one pivot has corroded a bit and is sticking, or the spring adjuster screw that needs a twist is totally rusted stuck, do I want to sort that out now?

    They also seem to require more regular fiddling than the various sets of cantilever brakes that I’ve owned.

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    pablo

    Cleaning chains and
    Cleaning chains and drivetrain in general. I cannot be bothered to spend hours cleaning it all for winter rides.
    I did a wheel building course and the thing I learnt was it’s best left to LBS. To do it properly requires lots of practice and I’d build a set once every couple of years so would take me a day per wheel and then I’d need to get it checked.

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    matthewn5

    Rebuilding a Campag ergopower

    Rebuilding 11 speed Campag ergopower shifters… the only official video shows the earlier model and only the RH shifter, while its the left ones that seem to go. I’ve got quite good at it, now I’ve got the special hooked tool you need to attach the springs, although it’s always a complete faff. Grease gets everywhere and then it always seems to be that I’ve put the downshift lever on at 90 degrees to the way it should be. Still, I’ve brought some dead ones back to life, and that’s quite a saving these days, and quite a sense of satisfaction!

    #1007983
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    hawkinspeter
    IanMSpencer wrote:
    It is the same reason. As you tune your 12 string, the change in tension of one string affects all the other string. Iterative process. If you have to make a big change in tension, then you know everything else will be affected in the opposite way on a guitar, bit more complicated on a bike.

    When I tune a guitar, say to an alternate tuning, I know that it is pointless aiming for the exact note first time around, and if I am detuning for example, I might tune the first string a bit flat, knowing that as I detune the other strings, the first string I tuned will start bearing more load.

    One tip for easier trueing (once the wheel is nice and round concentrically) that I do is for each spoke that you add tension to, relax a bit of tension in the opposed/adjacent spokes so that hopefully the total tension is largely the same, but pulling the rim over to the desired position. With rear wheels, you have to guess a bit to allow for the different sides being at different tensions.

    #1007981
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    IanMSpencer

    It bothers me that you can’t

    It bothers me that you can’t inspect them, and nobody seems to sell cable guide tubing (that may have changed in the last few years, haven’t looked recently). All it takes is a frayed cable that you pull through and you can easily damage the guide. Some don’t have full guides, just a lead in, but again, try finding spares.

    #1007979
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    IanMSpencer
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    Tensioning spokes, I don’t know if anyone else finds this but for me it’s like trying to tune my 12 string guitar in that I can go all round the wheel with the tension meter and spoke key getting every single one perfect then when I recheck the one I started with it’s off again…

    It is the same reason. As you tune your 12 string, the change in tension of one string affects all the other string. Iterative process. If you have to make a big change in tension, then you know everything else will be affected in the opposite way on a guitar, bit more complicated on a bike.

    When I tune a guitar, say to an alternate tuning, I know that it is pointless aiming for the exact note first time around, and if I am detuning for example, I might tune the first string a bit flat, knowing that as I detune the other strings, the first string I tuned will start bearing more load.

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