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  • November 6, 2022 at 12:06 am #32321
    giff77

    This popped up on one of my feeds and as much as I disagree with some of his points of view this one is actually really good. 

    PETER HITCHENS: Every time I set out on my bike I prepare for war
    https://mol.im/a/11394107

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  • November 8, 2022 at 3:50 pm #1007773
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    Hirsute

    What books would they be then

    What books would they be then ?

    November 8, 2022 at 3:20 pm #1007771
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    Flintshire Boy

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    Author. Journalist. Commentator.

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    Whilst you post on Road.cc.

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    Yep, you’ve deffo got the drop on this guy’s career.

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    November 8, 2022 at 2:38 pm #1007769
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    hawkinspeter
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    Is that the model? I thought generally publications only get paid per click through from advertising on their site, how do they make money from someone who visits but doesn’t click on any adverts?

    I believe one of the old metrics used by Google’s PageRank was the number of external sites linking to certain pages, so just having a link can serve to legitimise a site.

    November 8, 2022 at 1:04 pm #1007767
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    Daveyraveygravey

    It is an interesting read,

    It is an interesting read, but I don’t agree, especially as the DM hasn’t changed its direction, as far as I can tell.  Our media has led us up the garden path for decades.

    November 8, 2022 at 12:03 pm #1007765
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    peted76

    I’m late to this party.. just

    I’m late to this party.. just wanted to chime in with a crazy thought that.. if a DM champion toad like Hitchens can put this viewpoint out into the gammonfest of the DailyHeil.. then.. maybe.. just maybe.. we’re seeing the start of cultural sea change?  

    Hey.. I’m an optimist.. it’s just a thought.

    November 8, 2022 at 11:42 am #1007763
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    Simon E
    Rendel Harris wrote:
    Is that the model? I thought generally publications only get paid per click through from advertising on their site, how do they make money from someone who visits but doesn’t click on any adverts?

    How does any media outlet make money from adverts? The advertisers pay to put them in front of people, just like in newspapers and magazines. More views = more $$$.

    Many adverts rely on brand recognition rather than sales as a direct result of their ad.

    It’s not the same as clicking on affiliate or tracking links.

    November 8, 2022 at 11:42 am #1007761
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    Car Delenda Est

    I can’t say I know but I
    I can’t say I know but I would be surprised if they didn’t use site traffic as a means of attracting advertisers

    November 8, 2022 at 10:20 am #1007759
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    Rendel Harris

    Is that the model? I thought

    Is that the model? I thought generally publications only get paid per click through from advertising on their site, how do they make money from someone who visits but doesn’t click on any adverts?

    November 8, 2022 at 10:17 am #1007757
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    hawkinspeter
    Simon E wrote:
    Every link to the DM makes money for them. You are handing $$$ to the haters at the Daily Mail.

    If you want to cite Hitchens then quote a line or two and paraphrase him but PLEASE no links.

    As much as I agree with you, it’s easy enough to just not click on DM links if people do post them. Personally, I’m waiting for all the Twitter links to stop being posted as that’s fast becoming a wretched hive of villainy.

    November 8, 2022 at 10:06 am #1007755
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    Simon E

    Every link to the DM makes

    Every link to the DM makes money for them. You are handing $$$ to the haters at the Daily Mail.

    If you want to cite Hitchens then quote a line or two and paraphrase him but PLEASE no links.

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/stop-funding-hate.png

    November 7, 2022 at 2:57 pm #1007753
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    mattw

    My (one amongst a very small

    One of my very few claims to fame.

    That piece was written in response to one of mine 🙂 .

    And Greenslade added very valuable context. A great piece.

    November 7, 2022 at 2:41 pm #1007751
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    hawkinspeter
    Dnnnnnn wrote:
    May be of interest: 
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2011/dec/06/dailymail-oswald-mosley

    Personally, I haven’t seen evidence that the Daily Fail has improved upon its “reporting” over the last 80 years or so. Wikipedia’s refusal to accept it as a source of facts is certainly based upon its more recent shenanigans.

    November 7, 2022 at 2:38 pm #1007749
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    chrisonabike

    Peter Hitchens found writing

    Peter Hitchens found writing as a contrarian on a wider range of topics than expected (“socially conservative”)?  Who would have guessed, coming from his family?

    November 7, 2022 at 2:36 pm #1007747
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    the little onion

    Also, this is Hitchens who

    Also, this is Hitchens who wrote a book claiming heroin wasn’t addictive, but rather people kept taking it because they had poor morals, or something. 

    November 7, 2022 at 2:29 pm #1007745
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    Dnnnnnn

    May be of interest: 

    May be of interest: 
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2011/dec/06/dailymail-oswald-mosley

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