Failed KMC chain – less than 100km indoor use

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    Cdl888

    Has anyone had any experience of KMC chains failing prematurely? I have a 9 speed Sora equipped bike permanently on my Wahoo Kickr. The groupset is in good condition with no parts especially worn. The drivetrain is kept spotless and dry lubed regularly.

    My old KMC X9 chain basically exploded about a month ago with countless broken links. I put it down to wear and tear, purchasing another KMC X9 however that chain did a similar exploding trick tonight and upon inspection there are at least 13 cracked links. It’s done less than 100km indoors.

     I’ve used KMC chains for years with no problems but this really puts me off. Thankfully I was on the turbo so no harm done, but outside in traffic the result could have been very different!

    I’m sure the retailer will warranty replace it but before I accept a replacement KMC I thought I’d canvass opinion here on possible causes?

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    jonb

    A friend had something very

    A friend had something very similar. SRAM chain on a new bike – within a few weeks it had multiple cracked plates… I noticed when I was fixing his chain for the second time on the same ride 
    SRAM replaced it under warranty (via the bike manufacturer)

     

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    #995433
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    Themadchemist

    I’ve had 2 KMC chains fail on
    I’ve had 2 KMC chains fail on my campag 10spd equipped bike,probably 5yrs ago.. Fortunately they both broke within a mile of home and I was able to walk home. I did have a quick link on me for the 2nd one,but it was as quick to walk! After that I bought the proper (expensive) 10spd campag Chorus chain,and that’s still on. Wouldnt buy another KMC chain as its painful when they break.. Oh,just to add..both chains came from well known online cycling retailers,so should have been genuine.

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    levestane
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    IanMSpencer

    The main issue is ensuring
    The main issue is ensuring you don’t run an overworn chain on a cassette – or chain rings. A worn chain puts load on a single tooth and tends to ride up the tooth.

    Once the teeth are worn, an unworn chain doesn’t mesh properly with the teeth and under load slides up the worn tooth and in extreme cases skips.

    The classic wear for a mountain bike is the 11T ring, which with its few teeth to spread wear, and tight radius is both prone to wear and slipping. Many MTB cassettes are ruined by on-road riding where the low gearing for off road tops out and people tend to do a lot of riding in it. I notice quite a few e-bike riders tend to rely on motor torque rather than using the full range of gears, and they will tend to have premature cassette wear.

    I get 3 – 4 chains per cassette but don’t bother with complicated routines. Simply avoiding excessive wear before changing the chain by checking wear. I’ve not had to change chain rings yet with that regime.

    I know a local cycle mechanic who claims not to worry about chain wear but allows them to wear and then changes the lot but that seems a great way to risk an accident and chain rings aren’t cheap.

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    grumpus

    The idea is the chain wears

    The idea is the chain wears faster than the cassette and putting a new chain on a part worn cassette doesn’t run smoothly and/or wears the new chain rapidly. Take your chain off when it’s half worn and fit a new one until that’s half worn, then refit the first chain. You could use three or four chains depending on your chain:cassette wear ratio. Worth it? I don’t know, I’m not that organised.

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    wtjs

    The presumed advantage is
    The presumed advantage is that the problems arise when you put a new chain on a worn cassette – so you put worn chains on worn cassettes, and the chain change over is an opportunity to clean the grime encrusted chain at least once during its life. I have followed this system for many years. Four chains seems to be about right for 2 alloy chainrings and a cassette

    #995423
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    Rendel Harris

    Always looking for ways to

    Always looking for ways to extend chain life, and you certainly get more mileage out of a KMC than I do; what’s the advantage of removing then bringing back as opposed to just leaving on until it reaches the second point?

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    stonojnr

    For mine, I simply can’t
    For mine, I simply can’t remember, I always keep a spare chain on hand at home,so if I get a problem I can fix it straight away, then order the spare replacement. By the time that new spare gets fitted and then breaks itself, it could be best part of a year later.

    Lots of places sell KMC x9 chains, Wiggle/ChainReaction, Merlin, Halfords, Bike Inn, I order from whoever has available stock, so its not always the same retailer.

    But it costs around 20quid, Aliexpress sell the “same chains” for around 10quid, I don’t buy those.

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    Sriracha

    And why are we told the brand
    And why are we told the brand of chain but not the name of the “reputable” online seller? The implication is that the online seller is beyond reproach, leaving only KMC’s reputation in question.

    The fault could be with either of them, whilst legally it rest with the seller regardless.

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    stonojnr

    I think multiple links in the

    I think multiple links in the chain crack, so get weakened, and when you put a load through the pedals, in my cases its been to pull away from a stop or hitting a steep hill, and Im not generating stupid power I might be rugby player weight Im not rugby player fit, in that split second as the load spreads across the chain the weakest links fail.

    this picture gives you some idea, as you can see the link to the left/down of the broken one is showing a hairline crack as well.

    and it had only done at most half the mileage Id expect from it given it was basically only dry weather use and was in good nick for wear.

    Ive had 3 chains break in 20 years of riding and 2 have been KMC chains within the past 2 years.

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    #995415
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    Ride On

    Hahaha I did! Won’t do that
    Hahaha I did! Won’t do that again.

    #995413
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    stonojnr

    Correct, but its just to
    Correct, but its just to counter the if you bought off ebay/aliexpress what do you expect comebacks. I don’t buy from shops I don’t have trust in, just to save a couple of quid.

    #995411
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    Ride On

    I had an “ultegra” chain
    I had an “ultegra” chain break in a similar way after a short period of time. Pretty sure it was a fake.

    I note your comments below about buying from a reputable dealer but doesnt mean a fake can’t get into the system.

    Send it back and ask for a replacement or write it off and buy from a local store.

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    Drinfinity

    My daughter had one go on her

    My daughter had one go on her MTB the same way, although in that case it was a SRAM chain. I counted 17 cracked links. If I was back in the aerospace biz I would have had it tested to see if the heat treatment on the plates had been missed. 

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    Sriracha

    Cdl888 wrote:

    Cdl888 wrote:
    Chain was bought from a reputable online retailer, one of the biggies so would be disappointed if it was fake.
    Reputable online retailer, reputable brand of chain. Yet you have already decided where the fault lies – else why name the chain, but protect the retailer’s identity. I’d trust KMC above any online retailer. And what about the “dry lube”, why is that not in question too?

    I have since found some forums from a few years back where KMC chains were failing …
    You name it, there are “some forums” about it failing.

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