Tips for riding up Mount Teide?

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    martinsynapse

    Hey all, I’m planning to ride up Mount Teide in Tenerrife next month from Pueto de La Cruz. (28 miles up, 7k ft climb). Any tips from anyone else who’s done it? 

    • ways of training in advance (in the UK)? What, how often, how hard?
    • clothing to wear (how to handle potential large swings in temp.)?
    • food at the top, around the cable car?

     

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  • #984487
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    martinsynapse

    Hey folks, I just wanted to

    Hey folks, I just wanted to loop back and say THANK YOU for all the great tips here. 

    I successfully completed the 28 mile climb up (and then down) from Puerto de la Cruz to the base of Teide thanks to all of your advice. 3h 42 mins to the peak at 2300m, about 90ish minutes of downhill to the sea after.

    What was this like?

    It’s flipping amazing! Beach > town > pine forest > volcanic Grand Canyon-scape & back.  

    Lunar volcanic crater in full sun ?. Down hill through the pine woods with clouds blowing across the road.

    28 miles of nothing but up was quite something; flow state down through the curves. It’s never very steep, but just moderately hard for a very long time – and that can get you in different ways.

    Surface wise, once you get out of the two main towns by the coast, the road through the forest and up into the old crater (see photo below) is incredible. Smooth and brand new. Getting next to no rain has its advantages I guess!

    Packing

    In terms of packing, based on your tips I went as light as possible and brought:

    • water + camelback: it’s long, you’ll be thirsty

    • lightweight jacket: big temp swings are expected

    • shorts for the lower climbs with leg warmers: as above

    • gloves

    • clear glasses

    • gels

    • small knogg blinder rear light: pretty useful in the fog section.

    • iPhone Quad lock (essential for directions out of the town)

    In the end I didn’t use the leg warmers but got quite close to needing to down hill in the 10 mile forest section: my friend covered his legs.

    Tactics

    If I was to summarise the advice here, all these resonated:

    • “It’s hot going up but cold at the top”
      • actually for us, it was cold in the middle (forest) with actual fog/clouds, but really sunny once we got out of the trees. But the point stands: you could need a wide range of clothes for this. from 20C to zero + rain/fog.
    • “Take calories in”
      • I consumed a whole bunch of gels on the climb
    • “Hydrate”
      • I only took 1l with me on the up, but was able to fill en route. It wasn’t that hot, but the exercise demands it.
    • “Pace: go easy early on”
      • The steepest parts (~7%) are in the first 8 miles, so this was great advice.

    Advice to anyone else doing this

    While I’ve done climbs with 20-25% grades in the UK, I think it speaks to the quality of cyclists here when some of them said “it’s not that hard, it’s just very long.” That is true, but 28 miles and 8k ft elevation gain is NO JOKE.

    I cycled 6 times a week in preparation, and did 2 interval sessions of an hour on 10% climbs for 12 weeks and still had full cramps in the last 25 metres and again shortly after lunch. Nasty – much much harder than the 104 mile day I did in the UK or loops I have done in the Lakes or Great Dun Fell.

    So my summary is don’t downplay how hard this HC is, unless you have already done something of this size.

     

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    #984491
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    TheBillder

    Thanks for a really
    Thanks for a really interesting write up. I was hoping you’d let us know how you got on, having read the tips with interest. It’s a huge achievement and if you never do another big climb, you did this one. Brilliant.

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    Steve K

    Well done – sounds wonderful.

    Well done – sounds wonderful.

    #984485
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    martinsynapse

    Yeah there’s definitely cars

    Yeah there’s definitely cars up there, I’ve driven up there several times too. You can’t drive the last, very top section but that’s fine anyway, it’s open. 

    Its the middle section in the valley that seems most lethal to me: sheer drop one side, single track, cars, corners you cant see around, easily possible to get above 40mph, dozy sheep…

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    Chris Hayes

    The Dragon Ride is hard, and

    The Dragon Ride is hard, and the road surfaces don’t help.  It was the otherwise innocuous hill through the housing estate on the way back that almost broke me.  My legs were still in screaming down valley mode.

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    Chris Hayes

    Unless you’re intending on

    Unless you’re intending on incorporating Teide into a longer ride, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.  It’s a relatively short distance, albeit all uphill, so probably a 2hr uphill ride followed by 30 minutes downhill (at 4x the speed).  There only so much your body can process in this time, though you should replace what you’re using.

    Assuming that you’re going there for a week or so and are intending to ride it more than once, treat the first ascent as a recce, i.e. take it easy and then plan a faster ascent once you know the road and where you’ll be tested and where you can recover or press on.  

    If you’ve got the correct gearing, stick within your riding limits, drink and eat little and often, you should be fine.   Another good tip is cutting bananas in half, that way you don’t eat too much at once, don’t have to peel them whilst cycling, and can just squeeze them into your mouth…

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    martinsynapse

    Any tips about bars or

    Any tips about bars or general food intake? 

    I watched a GCN video recently where they did 200 miles in a day (Bath > IoW > Bath) and there was mention of eating carbs, which didn’t feel like your regular gels/bars intake… unless those gels have carbs as well as sugar.

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    Rendel Harris
    martinsynapse wrote:
    Great Dun Fell & Honister are less enjoyable on the down because they are single track with tight curves, so you could easily find yourself doing 35+ mph into blind bends + facing tourist car traffic head on.

    No tourist cars on GDF, surely? Suicidal sheep, yes…we did it on a day there was a 60kph wind blowing directly in our faces up the climb, absolute hell, but the descent was extraordinary – that dip around the middle, just got blown up and over it without pedalling, combined with the perfect road surface I hit 79kph and could have got more if I hadn’t been so frit.

    #984475
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    Secret_squirrel

    I’ve just come from doing the

    I’ve just come from doing the Dragon Ride in Wales (200km along and 3k up) and whilst I thought I was pretty well prepared the one thing that caught me out was the sheer mental impact of seeing the seemingly endless curves stretching out in front of you.  Very shocking for me whose used to the relatively short and sharp <1mi climbs of the Chiltern’s. 
     

    Silly thing is I’ve done Spanish mountain roads before but  mentally wasn’t expecting to find them in Wales  and the combo of boredom and fatigue completely side swiped me.
     

     

    #984473
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    Chris Hayes

    Depending on your power to

    Depending on your power to weight ratio, ensure you have adequate gearing: 50/34 chainset with a 34 cassette are about as low as you can go with conventional equipment.  Teide isn’t that steep, but it’s long.

    As many have said, there’s not much you can do to prepare for a 20k plus climb in the UK apart from ride up the hills we have, perhaps using interval training to push yourself into the red to see how you cope.

    Then gilet / armwarmers, your liquids, bananas, gels if you get on with them, and a good breakfast.  

    I sometimes tape gels and chewy food to my bars so I’m not fiddling around in my back pockets when I’m at my limit. Eat small and often and start earlier than you normallly would.

    Then it’s just man versus mountain. Enjoy. 

     

    #984471
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    Hirsute

    I found the cable car quite

    I found the cable car quite convenient.

    Cold at the top as the people just wearing a t shirt found out (we were in our fleeces).

    #984469
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    HoarseMann

    For a long descent, it’s

    For a long descent, it’s worth doing some finger grip strength exercises with something like this.

    We think about braking technique (not dragging the brakes & alternating front/rear to allow rims/rotors to cool), but not often about training hand muscles to prevent cramp, which can be a problem on a very long descent.

    Also, I’d have a practise somewhere safe at the emergency braking technique of putting your heel on the back wheel.

    Damn I’m jealous!

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    #984467
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    CXR94Di2

    I’ve cycled up Mt Teide many
    I’ve cycled up Mt Teide many times, but always from the south side of the island. I’ve descended down the climb you will be attempting. It regularly gets cloud cover and can rain for a big part of the ascent. Take water proof clothing, gloves and leg warmers (for the return descent) It gets bloody colder at speed. I’ve come down that side at least 8 times. Only once was it dry!

    Once you climb out of the clouds you will invariably get beautiful clear skies. It can be quite cool but also been known to be very warm.

    Pace yourself in a low gear, take plenty of fluids and several pack of food.

    Use lights especially a good rear.

    Enjoy one of the biggest climbs in Europe

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    PRSboy

    I’ve not climbed Teide, but I

    I’ve not climbed Teide, but I’ve done Ventoux, Stelvio and a few other big ones.  Training wise, I’d suggest fast efforts e.g ‘2×20’ minutes on flat roads but up on the hoods is a reasonable simulation for the sort of effort a long climb like that is.  Make sure you get out of the saddle from time to time and shift your weight about a bit, for a break.  I’ve found a HRM handy to avoid getting over-excited early on and overdoing it, only to pay the penalty an hour or so later…

    If you have Zwift, a few goes at climbs like Ven-Top and Alpe du Zwift wouldn’t do any harm.

    Clothes… I’ve generally found that the heat generated from the effort has kept me warm in summer gear, even when there was a metre of snow at the roadside!  However, make sure you quickly cover up at the top if you stop as your sweat soaked clothes and the wind can be chilling… keep a rain jacket, arm warmers and gillet in your back pockets.

    Just to add to the good advice below,  make sure you look up from your stem and pause from time to time to take in the changing views which I’m sure will be great… and then look forward to the descent!

    #984463
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    martinsynapse

    Yes! Oh I have no ego about

    Yes! Oh I have no ego about the time to do this, it’s doing it all that matters, not getting some kind of time-record. 

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