What makes road.cc toxic?

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    MoutonDeMontagne

    I was browsing a series of other cycling based websites recently, and one question popped into my head when back here on road.cc. Namely, what is it that makes the comment sections here so aggressive, abraisive and generally unpleasent. Almost every article ends up with some form of slanging match, akin to a ‘you wana go pal’ shoving match in a pub underneath. Is it indicative of the types of demographics that tend to frequent the road, linked to the increasingly aggressive cars vs. bikes war of words in the press, debate provoking articles or what? Theres no room for humour, differences of opinions or anything seemingly. Often a simple jovial comment will result in a (Harry Enfield voice) “I think you’ll find that actually….’ 

    In short, chill out everyone. Theres enough shite going on in the world without it spilling into cycling chat! 

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  • #971763
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    Luca Patrono

    I doubt anyone’s blocked you.
    I doubt anyone’s blocked you; there’s only one poster on my list. If I wanted an echo chamber where people with dissenting viewpoints are suppressed, I’d post on Reddit.

    (I hate Reddit so damn much.)

    As for groupthink, there’s definitely going to be a certain left-wing bias in cycling circles that those on the right are going to find distasteful. This is basically a specialty forum at its heart, for those committed enough to cycling to bother following it. That selects for certain types of people.

    As for politics, it’s a constant subject because utility cycling in the modern world is so heavily intertwined with and affected by it, from justice system bias to provision of infrastructure to public hostility to climate change to public health and beyond. I’d certainly love a world where I could ride my bike without constantly experiencing incidents that remind me of the present political problems, and post here without giving a damn about politics, but I don’t think that will be avoidable for many years yet, if ever.

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    brooksby

    Tell that to the Xenomorph…

    Tell that to the Xenomorph…

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    Captain Badger

    Oi, watch it sunshine

    Oi, watch it sunshine

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    peted76

    Aww. I’m late to the badger

    Aww. I’m late to the badger bait group can we go fox hunting instead?

    I do think there is a little bit of truth in all sides mentioned throughout this thread (the bits I could be bothered to read).  I don’t think road.cc is toxic however I believe that of the 100/200 regular voices being heard a small minority are more often singled out. Just remember not to feed the trolls, unless you enjoy it.

    My take on any rise in anger recently is that it stems from people’s feelings of general discombobulation being amplified by their own sense of uncertainty with the world.

    Every month we seem to be bombarded by media telling us to support another righteous cause, another political fuckwit to lambast to the point where there really are no sensible political voices being heard, another global doom alert, terrorists, pandemics..  as I consider this I 1) consider the reflection of my own current feeling 2) lament the dumbing down of the mass media for adding to all of this by acting not as an authoritive voice, but a more biased, spineless voice. 

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    hawkinspeter

    I closed my Facebook account
    I closed my Facebook account a couple of years ago (definitely a good move); I’ve got an unused Twitter account or two, but Reddit is a really good source of computer information and there’s no problems in the techy sub-reddits. (I used to frequent SlashDot, but that’s been a cesspool for years). I was shocked to hear that Reddit are re-writing their history to blank out Aaron Swartz, though.

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    Rendel Harris
    Chris Hayes wrote:
    I’ve always used my own name when registering on forums and making comments on threads – that way I’m less inclined to get into slanging matches or directing abuse at others! 

    Me too (strange as it may seem this is my real name). It definitely acts as a brake on one’s wilder passions – do I want people who might Google my name finding me saying that? I’ve long been of the opinion that the abolition of internet anonymity would reduce unpleasantness by 80% at a stroke.

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    stomec

    Rich_bc wrote:

    Rich_bc wrote:
    There is a significant element of thinking on this forum.

    Fixed it for you, you’re welcome 😉

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    Rich_cb

    I have, at various times, had
    I have, at various times, had accounts on Twitter, Facebook and Reddit.

    I’ve closed them all, simply not worth the hassle.

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    Captain Badger

    And this is it. I’ve wasted

    And this is it. I’ve wasted more time than I wished responding. The only way to deal with them is to ignore. If you can’t ignore (which can be very difficult, as evinced by my inability to keep my trap shut), don’t take their posts seriously – hold them up to ridicule (their posts are generally ridiculous). Laugh at them. Just do it within site rules.

    There is absolutely no way that you can debate with them, they’re playing to their own rule book for their own ends. Their motivation is not to enighten or be enlightened, to make friends, or even to sharpen their own debating skills. It is just to troll.

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    Captain Badger

    Indeed. A parasite that kills

    Indeed. A parasite that kills its host is not a successful parasite

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    Captain Badger

    Thank U

    Thank U

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    Anonymous

    Rich_bc wrote:

    Rich_bc wrote:
    There is a significant element of ‘group think’ on this forum. Challenge the group think and you get abuse and hostility.

    I assume you’ve not encountered Reddit yet, right? Jeez, the lack of a sense of humour there is terrifying.

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    AlsoSomniloquism

    One of them actually does

    One of them actually does occaisionally in the forums and usually posts good advice which is why I tried to engage more. It is just that not many here do look or comment there much anyway. 

    The other one has posted in the forum rather then the news once about how great it was that 4×4 offroaders could drive anywhere slowly and belching out fumes when trying to be banned by Horse riders, walkers and cyclists. Suprisingly really when they are massively in favour of reducing fumes and slow car driving on normal roads. One is definitely more of a troll then the other one although the latter is trying more. 
     

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    Simon E

    hawkinspeter wrote:

    hawkinspeter wrote:
    There’s a world of difference between people arguing about sincerely held beliefs/opinions and someone just arguing to try to trigger someone.

    I have to agree with you.

    To call road.cc an echo chamber I feel is inaccurate; it lends weight to the idea that we can’t tolerate disagreement or divergent perspectives. Most of us drive, have family members or close friends who aren’t mad keen on cycling. Our views and perspectives vary.

    While it can get heated, and if we’re honest we are all vulnerable to being triggered and losing our cool at times, most are posting with reasonable motives. A minority are not. But that’s life. Which reminds me, I saw this quote a little while ago and it has been on my mind ever since:

    “Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.”

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    Rome73

    There are two haters (we all

    There are two haters (we all know who they are) who constantly post provocative, contrary statements to create a ‘storm’. Like yesterday’s comment about the SUV driving into protestors in NYC as having the ‘right’ to use the road and the right of way or BJ commenting in a rude tone how everyone in London is rude. Just ignore them. It can be that simple. 

    It’s true that they rarely (ever?) comment on bike clothes, cargo bikes, cleats, equipment, tyres etc. Cos there is no controversy there (and probably because they don’t ride cycles) and no opportunity to wind up others. If the article is about infrastructure, helmets, close pass – you can bet that he / she / it will pop up with a juvenile attempt to cause offence. 

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