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When a 100mph motor rally will see these Gloucestershire roads closed for 48-mile race

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  • September 6, 2019 at 4:08 pm #949459
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    Griff500

    massive4x4 wrote:

    massive4x4 wrote:
    Griff500 wrote:
    Philh68 wrote:

    Street circuit racing went out of favour because of safety concerns…..

    Wrong on so many levels. Firstly Rallying isn’t “street circuit racing”. But on the subject of street circuit racing, Monaco, Melbourne, Singapore, Montreal, Long Beach etc have never been out of favour. And I’m not aware of any racing circuits closing due to non viability (though some are stopping hosting non viable events such F1)

    In the UK we have never had street racing as until recently you couldn’t deny access to roads or revoke the road traffic act.

    ……..

    The main reasons for circuits closing is housing bring developed around them and then people complaining about the noise. The agent of change principle cannot come sooner to UK planning law.

    At a push, Olivers Mount and the Isle of Man could be described as street circuits.

    Perhaps a few circuits have closed, but I am not aware of any. Besides which, that has nothing to do with Rallying as Phil 68 seems to suggest. Rallying in the UK has never relied heavily on circuits.

    September 5, 2019 at 9:41 pm #949457
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    massive4x4

    Philh68 wrote:

    Philh68 wrote:

    Surely if the drivers have to do the course 3 times it’s a 144 mile race, not 48.

    Street circuit racing went out of favour because of safety concerns, in favour of dedicated facilities. Those facilities are disappearing because they’re not economically viable, so now the racers want access to public roads even though they were the ones who said they couldn’t be made safe enough! As usual, it’ll be the public picking up the tab after some dubious economic forecasts by the race promoters proved wildly optimistic. 

    In the UK we have never had street racing as until recently you couldn’t deny access to roads or revoke the road traffic act.

    This is why the Birmingham Superprix in the 80’s required an act of parliament to take place. Or that the UK has so many motoracing circuits and the isle of man races are so prominent.

    After years of lobbying the power to authorize Motorsport on public roads was devolved to council so that local people could make to decision whether to allow events on public roads.

    On global scale motorsports environmental impact is basically 0, let the other tribe enjoy themselves.

    September 5, 2019 at 9:33 pm #949455
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    massive4x4

    Griff500 wrote:

    Griff500 wrote:
    Philh68 wrote:

    Street circuit racing went out of favour because of safety concerns…..


    Wrong on so many levels. Firstly Rallying isn’t “street circuit racing”. But on the subject of street circuit racing, Monaco, Melbourne, Singapore, Montreal, Long Beach etc have never been out of favour. And I’m not aware of any racing circuits closing due to non viability (though some are stopping hosting non viable events such F1)

    The main reasons for circuits closing is housing bring developed around them and then people complaining about the noise.

    The agent of change principle cannot come sooner to UK planning law.

    September 5, 2019 at 8:49 pm #949453
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    David9694

    Rick_Rude wrote:

    Rick_Rude wrote:
    As a petrolhead sounds ok to me. Seeing as my local roads are going to be screwed by the world championships, cyclists shouldn’t be crying about this one in million event. Also if you don’t want to get hit by a rally car….don’t watch rally cars. It’s hardly going to be group b in Portugal with rs200s anyway.

     

    i’m sending Greta Thurnberg ‘round to speak to you and she may well be  waving her  plastic water bottle at you, since its presence on her boat completely demolishes all her arguments, global warming and all that tosh.

    when I did my annual walk from Dunster to Minehead a couple years ago, the rally cars and all their attendant dangers were threatening to come to me – there isn’t always a choice, and I’m not sure the local wildlife will heed the warning signs.

    Finally I hope you’re right about the one in a million, although the legal mechanism this is authorised under suggests it’s not going to be.

    September 5, 2019 at 8:24 pm #949451
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    Griff500

    Philh68 wrote:

    Philh68 wrote:

    Street circuit racing went out of favour because of safety concerns…..


    Wrong on so many levels. Firstly Rallying isn’t “street circuit racing”. But on the subject of street circuit racing, Monaco, Melbourne, Singapore, Montreal, Long Beach etc have never been out of favour. And I’m not aware of any racing circuits closing due to non viability (though some are stopping hosting non viable events such F1)

    September 5, 2019 at 5:30 pm #949449
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    Rick_Rude

    As a petrolhead sounds ok to
    As a petrolhead sounds ok to me. Seeing as my local roads are going to be screwed by the world championships, cyclists shouldn’t be crying about this one in million event.

    Also if you don’t want to get hit by a rally car….don’t watch rally cars. It’s hardly going to be group b in Portugal with rs200s anyway.

    September 5, 2019 at 2:12 pm #949447
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    exilegareth

    Jeepers there’s some ill

    Jeepers there’s some ill informed comment.

     

    You have to love the way the article starts with a pic of WRC cars on gravel in Wales as if that explains what national standard drivers on tarmac in England will look like….

     

    Road rallying does have an atrocious safety record, even in recent years – hence all the rows around the Jim CLark Rally and its record on spectator safety, but really, is this really that contentious?

     

    The issue about old airfields is a point well made – tarmac rallying needs tarmac, and there’s less of it ab out on private land than there used to be…

    September 5, 2019 at 11:34 am #949445
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    Hirsute

    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:

    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:

    It means there 16 miles of closed roads that are used three times.

    The linked article says
    Cars will do a 48-mile route three times.

    September 5, 2019 at 11:21 am #949443
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    Stef Marazzi

    Next time anyone complains

    Next time anyone complains about RideLondon or whatever, point them in the direction of this one.

    September 5, 2019 at 4:59 am #949441
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    Yorkshie Whippet

    It means there 16 miles of

    It means there 16 miles of closed roads that are used three times.

    September 5, 2019 at 4:32 am #949439
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    Philh68

    Surely if the drivers have to

    Surely if the drivers have to do the course 3 times it’s a 144 mile race, not 48.

    Street circuit racing went out of favour because of safety concerns, in favour of dedicated facilities. Those facilities are disappearing because they’re not economically viable, so now the racers want access to public roads even though they were the ones who said they couldn’t be made safe enough! As usual, it’ll be the public picking up the tab after some dubious economic forecasts by the race promoters proved wildly optimistic. 

    September 4, 2019 at 7:56 pm #949437
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    Hirsute

    Let’s hope the vet can get
    Let’s hope the vet can get through.

    September 4, 2019 at 6:38 pm #949435
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    David9694
    Bmblbzzz wrote:
    That area around Redmarley, Hartpury, Upleadon etc is beautiful riding country. In fact, I’ll be riding through Hartpury tomorrow. 

     

    you shouldn’t – motor sport can be dangerous, we’ve warned you if you want to spectate, you could be a hospital case in the blink of an eye.  Good clean fun, I say, why not? 

    September 4, 2019 at 2:04 pm #949433
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    Bmblbzzz

    That area around Redmarley,

    That area around Redmarley, Hartpury, Upleadon etc is beautiful riding country. In fact, I’ll be riding through Hartpury tomorrow. 

    September 4, 2019 at 12:36 pm #949431
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    Mybike
    brooksby wrote:
    But that’s terrible!  How will locals get to the shops or to visit Great Aunt Ida?  It should be BANNED, I tells ya!

     

    Not everyone is happy and one resident living near the route says he only found out a week ago that the area will effectively be on lockdown for most of Saturday, September 7 after road closure orders were granted from midnight.

    But organisers say they have been consulting with residents living along the route since the start of the year and The Three Shires rally will be good for the local economy.

    All sounds familiar…  But this one will go through without a hitch because, you know, cars.

     

    or the elders get there medicane  and drinking water.

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