Cycle bag recommendation

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    AfterPeak

    Hi my deuter bag has a broken strap and the rain cover has never quite kept the contents dry so I am looking for a new one.

    Anyone got one of these?
    http://rivelo.cc/accessories.html

    Or have any recommendations?

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  • #918623
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    AfterPeak

    So I thought I would give you

    So I thought I would give you all an update. I carried on using my old bag (Deuter) as the weather has held off but about a month ago I brought a new bag.

    On the advice given I had a good look at messengers and was going to dismiss them as a gimick until I came across this bag by Life behind bars:

    http://store.lbbjkt.com/bags/33-echelon-messenger-s.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP2ZjuJSVCQ (This is video of the larger version – my version doesnt have the 4th strap)

    I was so impressed with the amount of thought that went into it I brought it. After a month of use these are the things I (personally) have found:

    1. Its heaver than the Deuter by quite a bit but not noticable when on as is fully waterproof

    2. The bag sits diagonal across your back and lower than that of my previous rucksack and the lower position really does make your centre of gravity lower and much better on the bike

    3. It actually took me a week or so to work out how to actually wear/use the bag but its now natural

    4. My previous bag had air padded strips that held the bag off my bag which did a very good job of keeping my back cool and non-sweaty. This messenger sits on your back so it will sweat but not finding this an issue and actually quite nice this time of year.

    5. It can do a 100 things but I may only use 20% of its functions.

    6. The one side shoulder strap doesnt effect me in the slightest and the anti-sway strap is great. It can some times ride up towards my neck but usually when I havent adjusted the strap fully between full and empty bag.

    7. Depending on what shoulder you decide to use (it works for both sides) there is nothing in the way when you look over your shoulder at the traffic.

     

    I think the biggest thing I found which was a massive surprise was that since changing bags my neck and upper back pain has completely gone. I have adjusted my bike thinking it was the reach etc before and this really must have been down to the rucksack pulling my shoulders back or weight at the top of my back.

     

    Anyway thats my thoughts. Watch the video. It is proper well made.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    #918621
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    Jack Osbourne snr

    If anyone is interested, the
    If anyone is interested, the Rivelo backpack in the original post is currently on sale at £39.99.

    #918619
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    Simboid
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    John_S

    Hi SpikeBike,

    Hi SpikeBike,

    How about a bag from British company Restrap?

    They do both backpacks/rucksacks whatever you want to call them as well as Messenger bags.

    https://restrap.co.uk/collections/backpacks

    https://restrap.co.uk/collections/messenger-bags

    Good luck finding the right bag for you!

    John

     

    #918615
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    AfterPeak

    Some of those messenger bags

    Some of those messenger bags do look rather cool. Americans I spoilt for choice. Nothing like that in the UK (as far as I know). 

    #918613
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    gthornton101

    Used the Alpkit Tivaro a few

    Used the Alpkit Tivaro a few times commuting in the pouring rain and it is superbly waterproof.  Roll tops on either end so pretty much packs down to the size of your contents which is good too.

     

     

    #918611
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    Johnny5

    SpikeBike, 

    SpikeBike, 

    If you get a quality messenger bag (ie one specifically made by cyclists for cyclists such as Timbuk2, Chrome, Mission Workshop, BaileyWorks, LifeBehindBars, etc… vs just a fashionable messenger bag styled work bag) they won’t bounce around.  If worn and adjusted properly it is more like a bag hugging you and hanging on vs a bag hanging/pulling on your shoulders if that makes sense. They are specifically designed to carry bulky loads securely while on a bike. Whereas a backpack is made to carry loads, but not necessarily designed for the bike (helmet contact/back of head contact when riding on lower bar setups, blind spots when looking over shoulder, carrying weight high which is good for hiking but not necessarily biking, etc…)

    I ride off-road with mine, travel, road rides, commutes, you name it. It will lessen the area of contact on your back making it cooler than a backpack. Also, much less intrusive to helmet contact and blindspot/over the shoulder site line checking. 

    I also like that I can swing it around and access it without have to take the pack off. Also it is easily adjustable from ride mode to loose/walking mode.  Plus much easier to access items inside without having to burrow down a vertical hole as most rolltop backpacks. 

    That being said, they aren’t for everyone. Some people just prefer backpacks and that’s all good. I happen to prefer the messenger bag for on bike use. On a drop bar roadie style bike you are a lot more stable as the weight is lower and better balanced. I noticed this when I first used a Timbuk2 backpack to carry a 25lb bag of dogfood home by bike. Cornering and riding across the short off-road trails connecting streets was sketch at best. With my messenger bag, it was heavy but didn’t affect the riding negatively.  

     

    I’d swing by a local shop to see and wear one before jumping in, just to see for yourself. 

     

    Oh, and I stop for red lights and yield to pedestrians despite my messenger bag use. 🙂

     

    #918609
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    AfterPeak

    Well I have held off buying a

    Well I have held off buying a new one so far as the weather has improved and waterproof has not been needed. I have never even concidered messager bags really as I see them only used by the sods that go through all the red lights. Do they “bonce” as you cycle? That would be incredibly irritating. 

    #918607
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    Simboid

    The reviewers on here know

    The reviewers on here know even less about backpacks than the cycling accessory companies who make some of them. 

    There is only one bag designed to be worn while riding a bike, the messenger bag. It keeps the weight low and away from the shoulders (arms should not be supporting anything but you), it lets your back breath (no ventilation system is very effective when leaning over your bike), you can quickly check over your shoulder without getting a face full of bag to name but 3 reasons.

    However, if you still prefer a rucksack then the last place to look is a company that mostly makes cycling accessories. We all know cycling kit is somewhere between expensive and unbelievably expensive for what it is (yes Rapha, I mean you) but at least the clothing and other truly cycling specific things are not only fit for purpose but also better than offerings by non-specialists. This is not true for rucksacks.

    For example this https://www.alpkit.com/products/gourdon-20 is better than the bag in this post and a third the price. It’s hi-viz, very light, has somewhere to keep your helmet and carries water where you can reach it and guess what, it’s from an outdoor pursuits company (they also do bikes as of fairly recently).

    The only thing you’ll get when looking to buy a cycling specific rucksack is ripped off. They don’t exist, only rucksacks aimed at cyclists which is a different thing entirely.

    #918605
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    Anonymous
    SpikeBike wrote:
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    Dunno if this is any use, it’s a shoulder bag https://www.athleteshop.co.uk/new-looxs-alba-single-bike-shoulder-bag-17-l-folla-black, comes with pannier hooks apparently.

    I use an Abus Dryve but it’s a messenger bag, bloody fantastic though and I’m a pannier bag man through and through.

     

    Got a bit of a slating by Road CC but I will take your recommendation over theirs

    http://road.cc/content/review/29048-abus-dryve-messenger-bag

    Not sure which size they were reviewing but the 50cm wide one isn’t 16l, mine is the 50cm version and the same as the one I linked to so is the 32L version. This is big enough to consume my ‘desktop’ 18.4″ lappie sideways, plus plenty of other kit, for shopping you can fit 3×4 pint milk bottles in easily and have plenty of space for 2 loaves of bread and other bits plus a shirt and trousers when you use the extending section.  Also the reviewer failed to mention it’s padded at the sides and bottom so even better for protecting laptops, as for the comments about it moving around with weight in whilst cycling, frankly I’d say that’s down to operator failure, the retaining strap isn’t for the waist, this puts the bag far too low down on your back for a start off which can induce pendulam swing if it isn’t fitted snugly with the excellent straps/backles.

    Goes all negative with the paranoia about the outside pocket being pick pockatable which basically applies to any bag with a zip and is high enough up you’d likely see an arm in your peripheral sight if stationary at lights long enough for someone to snake one over, plus the zip is nice and sturdy (taped seams so very waterproof) that you’d feel someone tugging it open in any case. 

    Again the reviewer goes all negative about the fact there is too many compartments on the internal ‘office organiser’ and says it’s too confusing you’ll forget where stuff is, what a melt.

    Fails to mention the excellent shoulder strap which is also padded and has a handy detachable pocket for a music device or even a work/travel pass.

    I gave my son one (I bought three as a job lot from Spain for silly money) and he loves it, I don’t use mine often but as far as a protective, secure and reasonably capacious shoulder bags goes I couldn’t recommend it highly enough.

    #918603
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    bobbk

    I bought the Rivelo bag last
    I bought the Rivelo bag last August. Have used it twice a week since then for the commute to take/bring home a weeks worth of clothes. Bag still looks like new. It’s a good shape for cycling and completely waterproof. The little clip on bag isn’t big enough for my phone but will take keys and cards. My only criticism is a lack of scuff guards on the base. Got mine for £55 after checking the web page regularly for a few days.

    #918601
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    Johnny5

    I recently got one of the

    I recently got one of the Life Behind the Bars Echelon Messenger bags, not a backpack, but does offer an X strap to be supported like a backpack. I’ve been using custom Timbuk2 messenger bags, but recently gave one of these a try. It’s similar to a Chrome bag but with a lot of the options omitted by Chrome crossed with a Timbuk2 bag. Digging it so far, but haven’t really gotten a chance to test it in fowl weather yet as I’ve only had it a few weeks. Best thing about it so far is the laptop goes in the front of the bag vs against your back, making poratge much more comfortable as the bag is able to adapt to your back better. 

    It is also 32L so a bit more grocery or kit carrying capacity than a Large T2 Bag. The way the top of the bag is cut really helps with keeping water out unlike the T2 bags, however the stickyness of the newness of the truck tarp inside can make sliding things in and out a little more cumbersome than a T2 or Chrome bag initially. 

    They also have backpack options as well. 

    Anyway, I’d never heard of the brand before and the bag has all the little extras that I have been searching for in a bag but couldn’t find all in one place before (such as the external bottom compression straps to carry coats/stuff sac/odd shaped items, the abilty to strap on larger items with the long external straps, 30L+ capacity, X-strap (internal/no need to remove the pack access of a messenger with the weight distribution of a backpack), and a cobra buckle. 

     

    I’d put the build quality up close to a T2 custom. Only real nit is some of the strap adjusters don’t allow the excess to be pulled through easily one handed while on a bike as my custom T2 bag allows. Easy enough to do with 2 hands though and I am hoping with time the bag works in a bit and those nits will subside. 

    #918599
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    Simon E
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    AfterPeak
    BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
    Dunno if this is any use, it’s a shoulder bag https://www.athleteshop.co.uk/new-looxs-alba-single-bike-shoulder-bag-17-l-folla-black, comes with pannier hooks apparently.

    I use an Abus Dryve but it’s a messenger bag, bloody fantastic though and I’m a pannier bag man through and through.

     

    Got a bit of a slating by Road CC but I will take your recommendation over theirs

    http://road.cc/content/review/29048-abus-dryve-messenger-bag

    #918595
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    Anonymous

    Dunno if this is any use, it

    Dunno if this is any use, it’s a shoulder bag https://www.athleteshop.co.uk/new-looxs-alba-single-bike-shoulder-bag-17-l-folla-black, comes with pannier hooks apparently.

    I use an Abus Dryve but it’s a messenger bag, bloody fantastic though and I’m a pannier bag man through and through.

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