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  • September 27, 2017 at 8:43 pm #27686
    Woodsman

    I currently ride a Canyon CF SL ultimate (2015) and the good lady er indoors has given  me permission to buy a new bike….good news but I’m not sure where to go? Do I stick with my tried & trusted Canyon (which is brilliant but starting to look a bit rough around the edges) and upgrade the wheel set & gruppo or go the whole hog and buy new. I expect I won’t see much change out of £3k or so if I go this route, especially if I start looking at something exotic & italian. Will I notice a significant improvement in a replacement that costs 3or 4 grand? Appreciate there’s a lot out there at this price point but if I do go new I’d like to see electronic shifting & disks. On the other hand what would I be looking at groupset & wheel wise?

    Thoughts & recommendations please 

     

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  • October 2, 2017 at 8:29 am #903285
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    Woodsman
    Markopic wrote:
    Leave the current bike as is, buy yourself a different bike – go disc brake, cyclocross or maybe steel/titanium “adventure” bike. I do not see any point in upgrade of already very good wheels or groupset on Canyon bike, it is just not worth the investment. 

    With a different bike you could go to roads/places you have not seen before, and that is the whole point :]

    actually this…..after having to abort a morning commute due to torrential rain & some stupendously asshated drivers that have never left me feeling so vulnerable as a cyclist (3 close / punishment passes within 2 miles…..oh I’m sorry I have to ride slightly further into the road than you’d like but given the drainage system can’t cope with the amount of standing water I’m going to have to…ahem sorry) I’m going to get myself a cheaper £1000ish CX/gravel/adventure bike – but definitely something with disks…..let the research commence.

    Any recommendations btw?

    September 30, 2017 at 3:03 pm #903283
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    Markopic

    Leave the current bike as is,

    Leave the current bike as is, buy yourself a different bike – go disc brake, cyclocross or maybe steel/titanium “adventure” bike. I do not see any point in upgrade of already very good wheels or groupset on Canyon bike, it is just not worth the investment. 

    With a different bike you could go to roads/places you have not seen before, and that is the whole point :]

    September 30, 2017 at 9:19 am #903281
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    Bob F

    3 grand doesn’t cut it.  

    3 grand doesn’t cut it.   Give the current one a makeover angel and  save for a really special 42nd birthday present!

     

    September 30, 2017 at 8:36 am #903279
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    matthewn5

    The problem is you won’t get

    The problem is you won’t get something a lot better for £3 grand. Anything that is a massive improvement will cost £8-£10 grand.

    Give your bike a makeover: Strip back to the frame, replace all consumables, reassemble, ride it more. Or have the luxury of getting your LBS to do it for you.

    Still sorry I sold my ‘scruffy’ Canyon…

    September 29, 2017 at 12:48 pm #903277
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    Nixster

    Tricky!  Your Canyon has a

    Tricky!  Your Canyon has a good frame and if it looks tatty like you say you won’t get much for it if you sell it.  Which suggests upgrade to me.  I think Canyon do their frames as either mechanical or electric so you might not be able to go electronic?  Unless you go for etap, which is great but is not a happy mix with Shimano cranks I have been told.  You really can’t go wrong with either Ultegra or Dura-ace as a mechanical groupset and wheels around the £1k mark are good enough for anyone who isn’t paid to ride, Reynolds perhaps?

    Personally I think £3k is a real performance sweetspot for road bikes. So I can see it’s tempting to go for a new bike however with a few exceptions the wheels won’t be that great so you might need to budget for those as well.

    So my suggestion would be Dura ace mechanical and new wheels and maybe renew contact points too, which would make it feel like a new bike and also go like stink!

    September 29, 2017 at 12:46 pm #903275
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    SingleSpeed
    Tjuice wrote:
    What have you been doing to your bike that leaves it rough round the edges after only two years?  Are you riding 8 hours every day in atrocious conditions?!

     

    You should see the state of my race frame, it was a bit over £2 last year and it’s all but trashed a year on! Racing bikes wrecks bikes!

    With £3k burning a hole in my pocket, I’d maybe look at getting a ‘Forever’ frame built, a gorgeous 853 bespoke piece, canyons are two a penny but something handbuilt for you…that’s where I’d go.

     

    September 29, 2017 at 12:13 pm #903273
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    Daveyraveygravey

    With a budget of £3k and a

    With a budget of £3k and a 40th birthday coming up…would have to be a titanium something or other.  If you upgrade, what are you going to do with the savings?  I don’t think an upgrade will give you much of a buzz, but a new bike?!  Oh boy…

     

     

    September 29, 2017 at 11:35 am #903271
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    alansmurphy

    Look for ‘rider issued’ on

    Look for ‘rider issued’ on eBay too – someone was selling a nice Team Wiggins Pinarello for £3.5k a couple of weeks back…

    September 29, 2017 at 11:22 am #903269
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    peted76
    rjfrussell wrote:
    peted76 wrote:
     

    Bear in mind that you ‘could’ by a raced team bike for half the cash they cost new.. bit of a risk I guess, but I took that risk and managed to get a top of the range bike for literally half price after seven months of racing

     

    where do you find the ex-racing bikes?

    I stumbled upon a ‘national level’ team selling them off at the end of the season, it’s not uncommon. You can also search for ‘bike sponsors’ who get them back at the end of the season and sell them off cheap. Like Windymilla, Condor etc.. 

    September 29, 2017 at 8:45 am #903267
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    rjfrussell
    peted76 wrote:
     

    Bear in mind that you ‘could’ by a raced team bike for half the cash they cost new.. bit of a risk I guess, but I took that risk and managed to get a top of the range bike for literally half price after seven months of racing

     

    where do you find the ex-racing bikes?

    September 29, 2017 at 8:33 am #903265
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    kil0ran

    If its comfy, upgrade

    If its comfy, upgrade components. Maybe go for electronic shifting plus new wheels? You say its looking tatty – custom paintjob would fix that. http://www.enigmabikes.com/paintworks/

    September 29, 2017 at 7:01 am #903263
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    CXR94Di2

    A mate just upgraded to
    A mate just upgraded to canyon disc bike, absolutely loves the new found confidence of braking.

    September 28, 2017 at 4:58 pm #903261
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    Canyon48

    I’d probably upgrade.

    I’d probably upgrade.

    A new aero carbon wheelset and the new Ultegra groupset would make a massive difference.

    I bought a Canyon Ultimate CF SLX Disc 8.0, I took the weight penalty with the discs and I certainly appreciate the more controlled braking – I also don’t have to worry about wearing down carbon rims.

    Despite this, if you buy some very good carbon specific rim brake pads, you shouldn’t have an issue (providing you don’t ride in the rain).

    September 28, 2017 at 3:03 pm #903259
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    peted76

    Lots of very valid points

    Lots of very valid points here, I’m currently in a similar situation.. I’ve made a list of things I want from a new bike (I can’t have it all) and have then put pro’s and con’s against a shortlist. However as much as I look at my list, the pro’s and the con’s, my heart is seemingly still ruling… the desicion I’m currently leaning towards, is a very expensive winter bike which ticks less boxes than other cheaper models would. The decision is driving me a bit mad at the moment.

    The canyon is a very good bike by all accounts, my mate has one and does very well with it, however he does complain every now and then about not being able to get low enough on it (quite a long headtube). 

    Bear in mind that you ‘could’ by a raced team bike for half the cash they cost new.. bit of a risk I guess, but I took that risk and managed to get a top of the range bike for literally half price after seven months of racing, admittedly it needed a new bottom backet, cassette and rear hub wheel bearings.. but all told that cost me about a ton, I’m still saving nearer 3 grand.

    September 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm #903257
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    morgoth985

    My feeling would be upgrade. 

    My feeling would be upgrade.   That Canyon’s a pretty good frame as far as I know and if you think it’s brilliant then it obviously suits you.  If you’re planning on spending that kind of money, or even something remotely near it, then with a good choice of wheels etc you could build a stonking bike around it.  The only thing that might change that is if you really want to go electronic since as mentioned above you might get a better deal for the complete bike.  Depends how strongly you feel about electronic.  I appreciate opinions vary on this but for 3k if it was me I’d stick with mechanical and upgrade wheels, chainset and as many other things as the budget will allow.

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