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Is Froome the Greatest British cyclist?

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  • July 26, 2015 at 11:53 am #24500
    Leviathan

    BBC’s Matt Slater says…. No (sorry for spoiler)
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/33663653

    This being the internet, you might not agree. Nice article and a reminder we are not short on winners these days, long may it be so. (No sign of G on there just yet, I hope to see him in a break away in the Olympic road race next year.)

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  • August 20, 2015 at 5:38 am #855181
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    exilegareth

    +1
    +1

    August 20, 2015 at 3:08 am #855179
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    rob39

    Is Froome the Greatest
    Is Froome the Greatest British cyclist?

    No! not a fan and never will be.
    I personally don’t believe in the GREATEST tag because technology/physique/training etc is constantly evolving. Its like comparing Messi with Best, different training attitudes, pitches were different, equipment was different but both probably the best of their era. At present Wiggo is probably the best of the current era (imo) with Cav a very very close 2nd. Boardman probably was the best of his era as his performances kicked off the current era (imo)

    July 29, 2015 at 10:46 am #855177
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    info@xyris.tv

    I had a delightful experience
    I had a delightful experience concerning the female cycling royalty that was Beryl Burton, and one of the only two times I have struggled for words, the other concerning actual royalty – Princess Diana. I was coming down the tunnel at Herne Hill – it was probably Easter time, 1960, and being a mouthy junior, like most of the others at that time, I was shouting at one of my Old Kent Team mates on the track. My rude “Oi” was suddenly followed by an utterance from what appeared to be a typically permed housewife speaking in the broadest Northern accent; “who, me love”. I was dumb stuck, just about managing a word or two of apology as I realised it was ‘The Queen’, no, not that queen, but the queen of cyclists. The down to earth, wonderful, female world and everything else champion, who was Beryl Burton.

    July 29, 2015 at 2:24 am #855175
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    42coppi8

    This is the most cogent and
    This is the most cogent and sensible answer to date out with the Beryl tributes, which rightly state she wasn’t competing in todays womens’ environment with sponsorship and too early for full womens’ rights.
    Both Froome and Wiggins need some Classics and Worlds wins to be up there as the best.
    A independent points table might be worthwhile putting together and including all our great road men and women including Robinson, Simpson, Hoban and Elliot.

    Do we SAVE or PREVIEW to POST ???

    July 28, 2015 at 10:38 pm #855173
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    dottigirl

    Beryl Burton and Nicole
    Beryl Burton and Nicole Cooke.

    Succeeded despite the system. In Cooke’s case, in spite of BC.

    Froome et al don’t even come close.

    July 28, 2015 at 12:10 pm #855171
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    Judge dreadful

    Flying Scot wrote:
    The guy

    Flying Scot wrote:

    The guy swapped sides from Kenya.

    Nowt wrong with Kenya. I found this public information video on YouTube. I think it may be from the Kenyan tourist board, or something

    July 28, 2015 at 6:38 am #855169
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    daddyELVIS

    Yes, sadly!
    Yes, sadly!

    July 27, 2015 at 4:19 pm #855167
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    The _Kaner

    bikeboy76 wrote:HalfWheeler

    bikeboy76 wrote:
    HalfWheeler wrote:
    What’s the best fruit, apples or oranges?

    Apples

    surely bananas?

    July 27, 2015 at 3:52 pm #855165
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    psling

    In the currunt TdF fervour,
    In the currunt TdF fervour, Wiggins’ 3rd place 2009 result is often overlooked (OK 4th at the time).
    Froomy has a way to go yet to match Wiggins achievements but “Best” or “Greatest” over different generations is always difficult to determine.

    July 27, 2015 at 9:45 am #855163
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    BL7

    Is this not a daft question??
    Is this not a daft question?? How can you possibly compare?

    Hoy’s record over the timescale is the best, to be at the top of his game for 4 successive olympics is huge.

    Wiggins’s record across track AND road is the best, over the timescale.

    Cav no doubt is the best road sprinter we’ve ever had.

    Froomey is the best GC stage racer we’ve ever had. His record over 4 years in the biggest stage race in the world, 2 wins, 1 x 2nd, and 1 x DnF. Lets be honest about Froome, the year he was 2nd he basically towed Wiggins around the mountains, and had it not been for a puncture early on (with an unsupported chase back), and team orders, he may well have won that year too. Wiggins will always be the 1st TdF winner for the UK, but who did he beat, Evans, with the long time trials that year playing to Brads strengths! Froome has had to do it against much more able competitors (e.g.Contador, Nibali, Quintana). Wiggins’s 3 week GC record against Nibali and Contador is not good. Plus, this year they put a course out specifically to stop Froome winning, e.g. Cobbles and 6 x high moutain finishes with next to no time trials = Quintana favourite. Froome did it the hard way!

    Will be interesting to see what course they pick for next year? The French believe that the ‘Race of Truth’ is the ultimate test, but they know that Quintana is useless at it. If they put long time trials in, they know this may play to Froome (and Sky’s) strengths. Will they do that, knowing that Sky are unpopular, and they are possibly creating a new modern day US Postal dominance??

    For me, this years TdF shows Froome is THE current best stage racer over grand tours. Will they pick a course that favours Froome for next year, then throw the gauntlet to Quintana? I doubt it. It is similar to Sagan, they altered the sprint rules to try and make it harder for him to win Green, but he did it again. What for next year, more flat stages, and a more traditional course??

    July 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm #855161
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    Big Engine

    Apples – they’re better for
    Apples – they’re better for pies, cider, turnovers, and bobbing.

    July 26, 2015 at 8:18 pm #855159
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    wycombewheeler

    bikeboy76 wrote:HalfWheeler

    bikeboy76 wrote:
    HalfWheeler wrote:
    What’s the best fruit, apples or oranges?

    Apples

    +1 Not even debatable.

    As for Froome, time will tell. But Wiggins has a number of different accomplishments.

    July 26, 2015 at 8:03 pm #855157
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    Flying Scot

    Robert Millar……Chris
    Robert Millar……Chris Hoy……Beryl Burton?

    The guy swapped sides from Kenya so in my mind is a bit less British than Wiggins, who always competed for the UK.

    I can’t take to Froome, his arms are on upside down for a start, though I was impressed at his handling progress this year as it was awful before.

    Anyway, my kids say it’s Charline Joiner, who came back after a proper broken back and is the 2nd highest rated UK series road rider this year.

    July 26, 2015 at 7:43 pm #855155
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    JohnnyRemo

    For now I’d say Wiggin’s TdF
    For now I’d say Wiggin’s TdF plus World and Olympic TTs (plus the track stuff – and hour record) probably trumps Froome.

    July 26, 2015 at 6:28 pm #855153
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    700c

    Would be difficult to argue
    Would be difficult to argue against Wiggins as it stands, and if he gets Gold in Rio, even more so..

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