Criterium du Dauphine

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    enrique

    That was up fast! Thanks, Dave and company! And a whole week to mess around with teams! Thanks! 😀

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    enrique

    You wanted to win the
    You wanted to win the competition… :W But you had to get through joelsim… :W Not (!) an easy thing to do (!) 😕 … But how, you say, how? 😕 … I haven’t slept for days now… :S How can you beat a beast like joel?… :W Of course, you can’t.. X( But what if I learned from the masters themselves?… 😕
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    What if I tried to come up with a strategy based on using the least amount of transfers possible, stick to the ‘Best Purist Team Possible’ as much as possible, used ‘Breakaway Specialists’ sparingly, if at all, and tried to stick to just swapping sprinters for climbers? 😕

    So here it is… The guide to to ‘Perfection’… 🙂 Here’s ‘Enrique’s Retrospective Guide to Winning the Dauphine with 8 transfers or Less’. Enjoy! 🙂

    Premises:

    1. You mysteriously figured out Nacer Bouhanni, Sacha Modolo, Samuel Dumoulin, Tiesj Benoot, Edvald Boasson Hagen and Jonas Vangenechten were the sprinters you wanted on your team for Stages 1,2 and 4.
    2. You decided Daniel Teklehaimanot was going to do something special in this competition.
    3. You noticed Dennis Rohan was well placed in the YR competition and decided to bring him in for the TTT.
    4. You decided your climbers would be Chris Froome, Tejay Van Garderen, Simon Yates and Dan Martin. You would put Chris Froome in at the beginning of the competition and he would never leave… :W The same with Teklehaimanot, Benoot, Boasson Hagen and Vangenechten… 😕
    5. When Benat Intxausti showed himself on Stage 5 you decided to switch to the Movistar rider for Stage 6.
    6. You liked your team so (!) much you decided not (!) to fiddle around with it, not (!) to gamble on breakaway riders and not (!) to switch your climbers around.

    (See screenshot below).

    If you had stuck to these guidelines, you too (!) could have beat joel! 🙂 I jest, of course, that was next to impossible, but here it is, a guideline for saving transfers and winning a weeklong stage race, courstesy of hindsight, which as you all know is 20/20! 🙂

    Oh, yeah, this formation and strategy would have yielded 1204 points and used only 6 transfers, just enough to beat joel! 🙂

    Now if only I could learn something from all of this… 😕

    backflipbedlem wrote:
    … What island are you on?…

    Both my parents are from a beautiful little island called Puerto Rico… 🙂 So, it’s a saying down there we’re fond of saying…

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    enrique

    enrique wrote:… I wonder if

    enrique wrote:
    … I wonder if the ‘Best Purist Team’, or any ‘top’ Purist team, could afford to completely ignore the non-mountain stages?… :W … :?

    Apparently not!:)

    This is the ‘Best Purist Team Possible’

    38.0 Christopher Froome
    30.7 Tejay Van Garderen
    22.5 Simon Yates
    21.5 Nacer Bouhanni
    10.8 Tiesj Benoot
    9.8 Edvald Boasson Hagen
    7.3 Aleksei Tcatevich
    4.5 Daniel Teklehaimanot

    It comes in at 145.1 credits and would have scored 958 points, enough to come in at No. 76 with no transfers made! It was no threat to Joelsim’s team! 🙂

    Now, what if I had decided to go with all climbers, could I have beat the ‘Best Actual Purist Team’, making a team of only climbers?… 😕

    Here’s the ‘Best Possible Purist Team – Climbers Only’ (BPPTCO, for short):

    38.0 Christopher Froome
    31.5 Romain Bardet
    30.7 Tejay Van Garderen
    22.5 Simon Yates
    16.0 Louis Meintjes
    4.5 Daniel Teklehaimanot
    3.1 Robert Kiserlovski
    3.0 Arnaud Courteille

    This team would have come in at 149.3 credits and would have yielded 808 points… 😕

    But how did these teams fare against the ‘Actual’ Purist Teams? 😕 Can somebody please post the ‘Best Actual Purist Team’, please? Thanks! 🙂 …

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    enrique

    There were 839 teams
    There were 839 teams registered for the Criterium du Dauphine.

    There were only 140 unique scores, meaning at the very least, there were only 140 different teams made… There could be more, of course, since teammate bonuses are the same for every team member of the winning rider… And breakaway riders may match the score of a rider who placed in the Top 20.. 😕

    And things like the Lanterne Rouge getting the same points as a Top 20 rider… For example, Caleb Fairly, the Lanterne Rouge today, got the same points as Chris Froome (10)….

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    enrique

    These riders need to be added
    These riders need to be added to the game start list:

    Alberto Losada Alguacil Team Katusha
    Alexei Tsatevich Team Katusha
    Angel Vicioso Arcos Team Katusha
    Bryan Nauleau Team Europcar
    Calvin Watson Trek Factory Racing
    Damien Howson ORICA GreenEDGE
    Edward Beltran Suarez Tinkoff – Saxo
    Evgeni Petrov Tinkoff – Saxo
    Gatis Smukulis Team Katusha
    Jose Rodolfo Serpa Perez Lampre – Merida
    Kristjan Koren Team Cannondale – Garmin
    Perrig Quemeneur Team Europcar
    Tiago Machado Team Katusha

    These riders need to be removed from the game start list:

    Alex Howes Team Cannondale – Garmin
    Daryl Impey Orica Greenedge
    Davide Cimolai Lampre – Merida
    Dmitriy Kozontchuk Team Katusha
    Eduard Vorganov Team Katusha
    Fabrice Jeandesboz Team Europcar
    Hayden Roulston Trek Factory Racing
    Ivan Basso Team Tinkoff-Saxo
    Manuele Boaro Team Tinkoff-Saxo
    Maxime Mederel Team Europcar
    Sergei Chernetski Team Katusha
    Sven Erik Bystrom Team Katusha
    Thierry Hupond Team Giant – Alpecin

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    backflipbedlem

    are we still stuck with the
    are we still stuck with the deadlines showing an hour earlier than they actually are?
    Surely this is an easy fix! And would mean lots of people could get a slightly longer lay in! B-)

    #848475
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    TERatcliffe26

    Dux89 wrote:Don’t often take

    Dux89 wrote:
    Don’t often take a 40-point rider and leave him in throughout a race but Valverde looks like a decent candidate.

    Dont give all the secrets away!

    Ive got 2 full on sprinters but the rest are more all rounders id say

    #848473
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    enrique

    Dux89 wrote:Don’t often take

    Dux89 wrote:
    Don’t often take a 40-point rider and leave him in throughout a race…
    If he goes for the win tomorrow, you’ll come out smelling like roses… 🙂

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    Dux89

    Don’t often take a 40-point
    Don’t often take a 40-point rider and leave him in throughout a race but Valverde looks like a decent candidate.

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    enrique

    enrique wrote:Well, it seems

    enrique wrote:
    Well, it seems to me most Purist teams are loaded with climbers…
    Sanderville wrote:
    How do you know?…
    Hmmm.. 😕 I don’t… I guess I was referring to the ‘Best Purist Teams Possible’ I create, not the actual teams…

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    I’d have no way of knowing if that was true for the whole population of Purist teams in the game…

    Sanderville wrote:
    … Have you found a new way to cheat?…
    That hurt… 😐 But, who am I to get sensitive over the subject? I deserve that… I’m guilty as charged… I stand humbled by your comment…

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    sanderville

    enrique wrote:Well, it seems

    enrique wrote:
    Well, it seems to me most Purist teams are loaded with climbers

    How do you know? Have you found a new way to cheat this year?

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    enrique

    stumps wrote:I dont think the

    stumps wrote:
    I dont think the budget is too bad. I’ve picked my standard team for stages 1 & 2 and still got 24 credits left…
    :W The budget is great (!) for stages 1-4… The nightmare is for the high mountains… It is (!) the same for everybody, though… And whining is (!) my forte! 🙂
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    stumps wrote:
    … my purist only has 1 3.0 rider.
    Well, it seems to me most Purist teams are loaded with climbers, and this race ends with 4 mountainous (or hilly) stages… But that could be different this time around… 😕 I wonder if the ‘Best Purist Team’, or any ‘top’ Purist team, could afford to completely ignore the non-mountain stages?… :W
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    I can’t play Purist, but (!), just for fun, here’s my ‘Fantasy’ Fantasy Cycling team:
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    40.0 Alejandro Valverde
    38.0 Christopher Froome
    34.1 Vincenzo Nibali
    30.7 Tejay Van Garderen
    3.0
    3.0
    3.0
    3.0
    154.8

    It’s over budget by 4.8 credits 🙂 Of course, I’ll lose, but I always like to see how a team of 4 ‘Star’ riders does Purist-wise… :W They always lose against more ‘creative’ teams… I wonder why?… 😕

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    JAndrewHill

    but the question is whether
    but the question is whether modolo or bouhanni will be dropped before the finish in stages 1 and 2. i am going for the definite maybe and picking one of them…

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    Stumps

    I dont think the budget is to
    I dont think the budget is to bad. I’ve picked my standard team for stages 1 & 2 and still got 24 credits left and my purist only has 1 3.0 rider.

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    _Kasper

    Well i must be one of the
    Well i must be one of the creative ones then, as i tried a bit of a different path. Definately an exciting race. Usually my purist teams fare better than the standard, so this will be really interesting to follow. Especially because of the tight budget.

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    enrique

    Come the high mountains,
    Come the high mountains, teams are going to look something like this:

    40.0 Alejandro Valverde
    38.0 Christopher Froome

    Your pick of one of the following:
    35.6 Joaquin Rodriguez
    30.7 Tejay Van Garderen
    34.1 Vincenzo Nibali
    30.2 Bauke Mollema

    Your pick of one the following:
    18.4 Andrew Talansky
    18.4 Adam Yates…

    and something like this:

    a 3.0 rider
    another 3.0 rider
    yet another 3.0 rider
    still another 3.0 rider…

    :”( *sigh* I miss the Giro already!…

    … but I wonder who’ll be able to put in any more than 4 ‘stars’?… 😕 There’s always fastiduosly creative people who foil the game for us mere ‘underperforming’ mortals… My self esteem suffers every time I play this game… :W But it’s beautiful… :X

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