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Planet-X RT -58 Carbon – which one?

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  • March 19, 2015 at 9:11 pm #23550
    alexwlondon

    Hello everyone.

    I have been following the forum for a while and learned a lot here (thanks!) but this is my first post. I started daily commuting in London some years ago and have been riding an hybrid Tachyon GT 4. I have done quite a few thousand miles on it and enjoyed changing various parts as they gave up the ghost.

    I think I am ready to try a road bike. I’d go for alloy but I can see the price of carbon frames has plummetted while I was learning to cycle, so I am quite tempted. I see many here stating that the RX-58 Carbon by Planet-X is a perfectly OK frame. Can I check with you whether this comment applies to someone heavier than average (90kg) who would need a fairly comfortable bike? I do 15miles daily without a problem and want to do longer stints at weekends.

    If the frame is fine, can I ask you for advice between the

    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT58RIV22BNC/planet-x-rt-58-carbon-sram-rival-22-bianco-edition

    http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXRT58CTIA/planet-x-rt-58-shimano-tiagra-carbon-road-bike

    Shimano or or Sram? Both at £799 right now.

    I’ve been with Shimano on previous bikes but they were cheap groupsets so I guess these are completely different pieces of kit.

    Thanks!

    Alex

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  • July 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm #838099
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    backflipbedlem

    alexwlondon

    alexwlondon wrote:
    …Unfortunately in the meantime the bike had gone up in price. I contacted PlanetX who told me they cannot bring back the price. What a shame – lesson learnt.

    I just wasn’t aware PX would move the prices around so much in a matter of days. So here I am with no bike with a glorious weather out. Silly me; lesson learnt.


    This is a lesson I also learnt the hard way, Planet X always change their prices, the flip side is they often have great deals on their bikes, but when you see that deal, don’t wait around too long because just as you decide to buy you’ll realise it’s gone up £200!
    I was 20 mins late getting a full 6800 Ultegra Pro Carbon for £999! #o
    Not bitter at all! lol
    Went with the SRAM Rival instead,
    Had it a year, and still absolutely love it! Would defo recommend Planet X! Really friendly and helpful staff! Great Brand!

    July 14, 2015 at 5:32 am #838097
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    H666

    I have been riding a RT58
    I have been riding a RT58 Ultegra 6800 (size XL) for 12 months in which time I have done 7,000KM over mountainous rough roads. I have had no problems at all with the frame other than keeping the matte black clean. I wish the RT58 frame were still around as I would buy another for sure.

    July 9, 2015 at 8:22 pm #838095
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    Batchy

    Gareth W-R wrote:I have had

    Gareth W-R wrote:
    I have had mine for a while now and have covered a couple of thousand miles on it in the last 6 months ish. It is still solid despite being caught out by a pot hole or 2. I have even ridden through winter on this and it is still going strong.
    One thing that has happened I am not too happy about is the plastic guides that go through the frame have somehow stuck in the frame. Where the cables enter the frame there appears to be some galvanisation ( presumably the reason for the guides seizing )
    Still like the frame and the way it rides, its light at 7kg for the xs frame with campag build. Great at climbing and comfy.
    Prices have come down now so an even better deal now. Bit of good and bad, for this price it will have compromises but still love mine.

    Further to my previous posts I have now done 2000 miles on my RT58. IMO this bike/frame is brilliant though it has now been superseded by the RT80.
    The plastic internal cable tubes are not meant to be left in the frame. Once that the cables have been threaded through the plastic guide tubes these are then removed by sliding them out of the frame off over the cables.To replace a cable – BEFORE REMOVING IT – simply re thread the SAVED plastic guide tube back over the old cable back into position through the frame. Now remove old cable and re thread new one as above. I hope that this helps solve your problem.

    July 9, 2015 at 12:26 pm #838093
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    Craig S

    Hi Gareth W-R,
    How did you
    Hi Gareth W-R,

    How did you resolve the plastic guide stuck to the frame issue? I have the same problem right now on my RT58 carbon, and my LBS are unable to sort it. They even spoke to PX but they didn’t want to know.

    To be clear, I am unable to get the derauilleur cable to function properly due to a blockage which appears to be a collapsed intenal cable guide. The bike was purchased 2 years ago and I don’t expect PX to be able to do much, considering other posts I have seen about their customer service, but it appears the design / cable guide is not fit for purpose.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Craig

    May 16, 2015 at 4:22 pm #838091
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    alexwlondon

    Sounds great Patchy. Hope to
    Sounds great Patchy. Hope to do something like that myself in a couple of years. B-)

    PS: Not sure it’s so easy these days to get PX to build to spec.

    May 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm #838089
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    Batchy

    alexwlondon wrote:Great to

    alexwlondon wrote:
    Great to hear all that. I also came to the conclusion the RT58 would have been great. It was a shame PX pulled the offer without warning and did not let me get the old price. It would have been 400 pounds more; so I am happy with the Radon that I got for 700 pounds.

    Just out of curiosity all of you happy with the RT58, are you still riding the PX stock wheels, or did you change them? I came to the conclusion I’d have had to replace them soon.

    I bought my PX RT58 frame separately and built it up with an almost new Ultegra 6700 10s groupset from another bike apart from new 6800 52/36 chainset. The wheels are Mavic Kysium Elites. Deda rhm 2 bars and stem. PX carbon post and Flite Original saddle. Cost £1800. Weight 16lbs 7oz or 7.45 KGS. I have not had experience with PX Wheels.
    You can get PX to build/upgrade to your spec if required so I believe !

    May 16, 2015 at 8:56 am #838087
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    alexwlondon

    Great to hear all that. I
    Great to hear all that. I also came to the conclusion the RT58 would have been great. It was a shame PX pulled the offer without warning and did not let me get the old price. It would have been 400 pounds more; so I am happy with the Radon that I got for 700 pounds.

    Just out of curiosity all of you happy with the RT58, are you still riding the PX stock wheels, or did you change them? I came to the conclusion I’d have had to replace them soon.

    May 13, 2015 at 2:36 pm #838085
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    Batchy

    Batchy wrote:Batchy wrote:I

    Batchy wrote:
    Batchy wrote:
    I just thought that I would add my twopence worth regarding PX RT58 Carbon. I cycle around 6 or 7k miles p a. I have been riding a Schwinn Fastback Pro alloy /carbon for 10 years and it is still going strong. I believe that this Taiwanese frame was also sold under the Planet X brand name ? Anyway I’ve just built up a new bike using a PX RT58 carbon frame (Incidentally IMO you’re not a real cyclist until you can build and repair your own kit)-It has full ultegra 10s and Kysirium Elite wheels and it weighs in at 7.45 kg or 16lbs 7oz.
    I have so far test ridden this bike about 175miles and every thing is now bedded in and adjusted to my liking. To put it bluntly this bike is pure joy to ride. It handles superbly. It is very stiff yet comfortable and it handles like a dream and it is a real looker. Oh! And it goes like s..t off a shovel ! ! ! The first main test will be Tour de Yorkshire Sportive on May 3rd but there again it might not last that long according to some of the dome and gloom old fishwives that inhabit this blog !

    Two weeks to go to TdY Sportive and the RT 58 is still in one piece and riding like a dream . Only 600 hard hilly Lake District miles on it though, I suppose there’s plenty of time for some serious spontaneous combustion yet so I have the old Schwinn Fastback Pro lube and pumped just in case!

    Further to the above:
    Well despite the pissing rain and getting a puncture, the PX RT 58 rode like a dream in the TdY 109k sportive. So much so, that I modestly have to inform you all that I was the fastest 65/69 year old on the day. I am quite sure that the ride characteristics of the RT58 had a part to play in this and low and behold it crossed the line intact and still raring to go !
    Please note that in am not employed or sponsored or receive any sort of bung or discount from Planet X. I am open to offers though !

    May 13, 2015 at 2:33 pm #838083
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    Batchy

    Batchy wrote:Batchy wrote:I

    Batchy wrote:
    Batchy wrote:
    I just thought that I would add my twopence worth regarding PX RT58 Carbon. I cycle around 6 or 7k miles p a. I have been riding a Schwinn Fastback Pro alloy /carbon for 10 years and it is still going strong. I believe that this Taiwanese frame was also sold under the Planet X brand name ? Anyway I’ve just built up a new bike using a PX RT58 carbon frame (Incidentally IMO you’re not a real cyclist until you can build and repair your own kit)-It has full ultegra 10s and Kysirium Elite wheels and it weighs in at 7.45 kg or 16lbs 7oz.
    I have so far test ridden this bike about 175miles and every thing is now bedded in and adjusted to my liking. To put it bluntly this bike is pure joy to ride. It handles superbly. It is very stiff yet comfortable and it handles like a dream and it is a real looker. Oh! And it goes like s..t off a shovel ! ! ! The first main test will be Tour de Yorkshire Sportive on May 3rd but there again it might not last that long according to some of the dome and gloom old fishwives that inhabit this blog !

    Two weeks to go to TdY Sportive and the RT 58 is still in one piece and riding like a dream . Only 600 hard hilly Lake District miles on it though, I suppose there’s plenty of time for some serious spontaneous combustion yet so I have the old Schwinn Fastback Pro lube and pumped just in case!

    Further to the above:
    Well despite the pissing rain and getting a puncture, the PX RT 58 rode like a dream in the TdY 109k sportive. So much so, that I modestly have to inform you all that I was the fastest 65/69 year old on the day. I am quite sure that the ride characteristics of the RT58 had a part to play in this and low and behold it crossed the line intact and still raring to go !
    Please note that in am not employed or sponsored or receive any sort of bung or discount from Planet X. I am open to offers though !

    May 12, 2015 at 8:38 pm #838081
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    alexwlondon

    Got a Radon R1 in the end and
    Got a Radon R1 in the end and very happy with it. I can finally hit the road! :H

    May 12, 2015 at 4:38 pm #838079
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    poppyroad

    You could always look at
    You could always look at mrcarbonuk.com they import.

    April 26, 2015 at 11:06 am #838077
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    alexwlondon

    OK – I think w’re coming to
    OK – I think w’re coming to the end of my saga on which bike entry to get.
    PX has loaded some more bikes on their catalogue. They are now doing the Pro Carbon (which I understand to be quite similar to their RT58) in
    * the Rival variant for £899 http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPBLK/planet-x-pro-carbon-black-edition-sram-rival-22-road-bike. A57 wheels.
    * the Apex variant for £799; Campagnolo Khamsin wheels.
    * Tiagra variant; also £799; Campagnolo Khamsin wheel.

    From what I can see online it seems to me both the Khamsin and the A57 are actually rather poor in terms of relative robustness and remaining true over time.

    Given this I am still looking at the Radon R1 4.0 as an alternative.
    http://www.radon-bikes.de/en/bikes/rennrad/training/r1/r1-40/
    It’s not Carbon, but it’s light and comes with full 105 set and Mavic Aksium S wheels, which, although not great, seem much better than the Khamsin or the A57. The R1 comes to £720-750 delivered.

    Right now I cannot see why I should not get the R1 4.0. Am i wrong?
    I grew fond of the double tapping SRAM system even if I have never used it; but I am sure I can live with Shimano too!

    I will buy one or the other on Monday – any last thoughts? Thanks!!

    April 21, 2015 at 12:07 pm #838075
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    Mrmiik

    Dr Concrete wrote:I forgot to

    Dr Concrete wrote:
    I forgot to mention in my previous post, I didn’t ave to trek to Sheffield or Barnsley (I am an exiled Lancastrian doing missionary work in the Sout East), I went to St Albans

    http://www.triathlon-zone.com/bikes2.html

    Where a very nice chap called Pete will advise, size and provide the opportunity to test ride on a turbo various Planet X models.

    How does one ‘test ride’ on a turbo? You can get set up but I doubt ‘test ride’.

    April 21, 2015 at 11:07 am #838073
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    alexwlondon

    Given the much higher prices
    Given the much higher prices with decent groupsets I am switching back to decent Aluminium. Currently thinking of the Radon R1 4.0 which can be had for £720-£730 delivered.
    http://www.bike-discount.de/de/kaufen/radon-r1-4.0-239502/wg_id-110. It’s got a full 105 and decent wheels as far as I can see.

    I am still considering the Canyon AL 6.0 but I am annoyed they sell them at 999 euros to Europe mainland and 899 pounds to Britain. I am trying to talk to them to see if they’d sell it to 999 euros to me. I might prefer the Radon anyway, even if I think the Canyon might keep its value better.

    Still kicking myself for having missed the PX58 Rival. I see the PX changes nearly daily. I might wait just a few more days.

    Thanks for all the comments – let me know if I am on the wrong track, for example if you think that I should be getting a PX58 Tiagra (still £799!) than a Radon (al) 105 (for £730 or so). Someone at work has mentioned that for what I want to do with the bike durability and robustness should be important; hence I should be getting the Tiagra over the 105 anyway!

    April 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm #838071
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    Dr Concrete

    I forgot to mention in my
    I forgot to mention in my previous post, I didn’t ave to trek to Sheffield or Barnsley (I am an exiled Lancastrian doing missionary work in the Sout East), I went to St Albans

    http://www.triathlon-zone.com/bikes2.html

    Where a very nice chap called Pete will advise, size and provide the opportunity to test ride on a turbo various Planet X models.

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