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  • November 4, 2014 at 10:04 pm #22684
    gr3g0ree

    Got a slow puncture and decided to get a new innertube. Counted 8 patches on it. Is it a lot? [insert grinning face here].
    I’ll go and count the patches on my other, ‘retired’ innertube this weekend.
    So I’m just wondering here, how many, and pls don’t just guess, innertubes with most patches have any of you got, that actually served you on the road.

    FYI – got a 7y old Raleigh Spirit hybrid, my all purpose bike literally.

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  • November 10, 2014 at 4:00 am #820003
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    PhilRuss

    [[[[[ A young dude, over the
    [[[[[ A young dude, over the phone, at Holdsworth’s Putney shop some years ago insisted the only thing to do with a punctured tube was to throw it away. Daftest thing I’d ever heard, and it caused me to shop elsewhere thereafter. I hope the loss of my custom isn’t the reason they promptly closed down….
    P.R.

    November 10, 2014 at 12:51 am #820001
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    gr3g0ree

    @ Blue_Brevatto – you
    @ Blue_Brevatto – you described almost exactly what I do as well.
    Just threw out another tube where I had a patch over another one. Will think about your solution MuddyGoose.

    My last 2x punctures, that made me buy a new tube, got through a fairly worn out punctureresistant Schwalbe.

    Next Q to keep the thread alive : front – rear distribution???? I think I only got 2-3x front punctures since got the bike. My estimate is 1 to 8 or 1 to 10 for the rear. Always puncture the rear 🙁

    November 7, 2014 at 10:33 am #819999
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    MuddyGoose

    I use the Lezyne self
    I use the Lezyne self sticking patches – http://amzn.to/1ycOctB – works out as 50p per patch and they are fantastic. Bought some Zefal ones on offer the other day and they are no where near as good as the Lezyne ones.

    As for total number of patches? Don’t know, somewhere between 5-10 is probably enough in my opinion.

    Put a few mL (about 5 mL, you don’t need much at all) of latex sealant – http://amzn.to/1smaRjr – into my rear tube the other week as it was a really slow puncture and I couldn’t be bothered taking the tube out and finding it. Worked a treat, sealed the hole and has stayed up fine since. I just take the valve out and use a plastic syringe – http://amzn.to/1xnQ7vb – to put the sealant in, valve back in, pump it back up, give the wheel a good spin to distribute (or go for a quick ride).

    November 6, 2014 at 11:56 pm #819997
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    Redvee

    I use Rema F00 16mm patches
    I use Rema F00 16mm patches and do a bulk repair session on my tubes, usually 6-8 at a time. A tube will only get binned if the new hole is too close to an old patch to repair or the number is too high. Think the highest number of patches I had on one tube was 13 but the next hole was too close to a previous so got binned or cut up.

    November 6, 2014 at 8:15 pm #819995
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    Sidi 700c

    Ride Gatorskins and you will
    Ride Gatorskins and you will be asking others what flats are!

    Prior to using gators it was 8-10 patches or till they started making bumps in the tire. Post gators – none. No flats now for three years. Should have made the move to gators a long time ago.

    November 5, 2014 at 9:18 pm #819993
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    Chuck

    8 is a pretty good score! I
    8 is a pretty good score! I think the ones on my commuter have probably got 2 or 3 each at the moment but some have had more.

    I’m of the view that the number of patches doesn’t matter- once they’re on, they’re on and if they last a couple of days without losing pressure then I’d consider that tube to be effectively as good as new, however many patches it has. But I only do ‘clean’ punctures- not near the valve, or where the patch will overlap an existing one. Once that happens I’d have a lot less faith in it so that’s it for that tube. I also use old school glue-in-a-tube patches- I have some Park pre-glued ones but those are a bit of a last resort for me.

    But I only fix them if they’re going straight back on the bike- not sure I’d trust them otherwise when the time came to use them. In practice this means that most of the time only the ones on my commuter get fixed.

    November 5, 2014 at 8:11 pm #819991
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    Flying Scot

    Save the planet, patch all
    Save the planet, patch all repairable tubes where reasonable.

    November 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm #819989
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    Gkam84

    P3t3 wrote:Gkam84 wrote:I

    P3t3 wrote:
    Gkam84 wrote:
    I haven’t patched tubes since I was at school…..I just replace the tube. With the price of tubes, patching it shouldn’t really be an option for anyone.

    Where do you get your cheap tubes from? I can’t find them under about £4 these days so patching is highly viable… I must be missing a trick!

    Planet X is the place to go for cheap tubes. http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/wheels/tyres-and-tubes/inner-tubes

    I get mine through trade and retail them at £5 including fitting because most people bring their bike in and leave it to get things done in my workshop

    November 5, 2014 at 5:39 pm #819987
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    The _Kaner

    When I used to bomb around on
    When I used to bomb around on my Raleigh Grifter – 35 years ago…I’m sure it was in the double figures per tube…but then they were a lot fatter than skinny 700c…and patch kits were infinitely cheaper (and easier to get a hold of) than a new tube
    I like patching with good old rubber solution…hate those sticky patches/skabs or whatever…I generally end up attaching the patch to itself long before it sees the tube….but do admit to carrying a Lezyne kit (and 2 tubes)…tubes will go in first if the weather is shitty….but if it’s nice, then I’ll take the time to use patches at the roadside…

    November 5, 2014 at 5:29 pm #819985
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    Mart

    Wiggle do them for around £2
    Wiggle do them for around £2 each ish as a pack of 6. Manufactured by Lifeline, cheap and cheerful and free delivery. I’ve not had a problem with them yet.

    November 5, 2014 at 5:21 pm #819983
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    P3t3

    Gkam84 wrote:I haven’t

    Gkam84 wrote:
    I haven’t patched tubes since I was at school…..I just replace the tube. With the price of tubes, patching it shouldn’t really be an option for anyone.

    Where do you get your cheap tubes from? I can’t find them under about £4 these days so patching is highly viable… I must be missing a trick!

    November 5, 2014 at 5:02 pm #819981
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    IngloriousLou

    mrmo wrote:the road tubes

    mrmo wrote:
    the road tubes never seem to hold patches well, the mtb currently has a tube with 14-15 patches on it.

    My patches on road inner tubes (18-25mm) were patchy until I switched the smallest ones that TipTop do, they’reabout 15mm I think. I reckon the larger patches were overlapping the edge of the tube when inflated.

    November 5, 2014 at 4:46 pm #819979
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    JonD

    Gkam84 wrote:I haven’t

    Gkam84 wrote:
    I haven’t patched tubes since I was at school…..I just replace the tube. With the price of tubes, patching it shouldn’t really be an option for anyone.

    ebay: 100 rema patches for about 9 quid..not cheap enough ?
    😉

    November 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm #819977
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    mrmo

    the road tubes never seem to
    the road tubes never seem to hold patches well, the mtb currently has a tube with 14-15 patches on it.

    November 5, 2014 at 3:57 pm #819975
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    mike the bike

    Like wellington boots a good,
    Like wellington boots a good, cherished inner-tube will carry several battle scars that have been anointed with a patch of contrasting colour. Although I never patch at the roadside I positively love fixing flats in the warmth of my garage, there is much joy in bringing an injured friend back to life.

    My personal theory is that patches are not potential weak-spots. They are in fact stronger than the original tube and so it follows that the more little red squares you add, the better your tube becomes. I have in use at the moment a couple of veterans, each bearing at least six wounds, maybe more, and I don’t worry about them. Not for a single second.

    But for some reason, probably more to do with aesthetics than practicality, I don’t like patching a patch. We all have a line that cannot be crossed.

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