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Where is Kimmage??

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  • September 7, 2014 at 8:04 pm #22330
    BL7

    For someone who seemed to be determined to uncover anything on Sky during Froome’s TdF win in 2013, where is Kimmage in relation to this Vuelta? Contador out with an alleged broken leg, declaring he wouldn’t be fit, then declaring he’d only target stage wins, now he’s riding the legs off everyone?? Attack, attack, attack!

    Has Bertie had his nose in the trough? Why are people not asking serious questions about this (e.g. PK??)? IS the Vuelta a closed shop for testing, given the top 3 are now Spanish?? Are the elite in cycling so bad that a man recovering from a ‘broken leg’ can show them the way up 17%+ hills??

    There is a funny smell around this Vuelta, I fear there a some skeletons hiding in someone’s cupboard??

    😕

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  • September 12, 2014 at 7:48 pm #813445
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    Stumps

    In the immortal words of
    In the immortal words of Kevin Keegan “i would just love it” if he did turn it around and win, now that would be sheer class.

    September 12, 2014 at 8:59 am #813443
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    daddyELVIS

    stumps wrote:
    So you like the

    stumps wrote:

    So you like the way Contador is performing, a known drug cheat, yet you make yet another veiled pop at Froome because he’s second after nearly turning himself inside out on the last stage to gain a few seconds on another proven drug cheat ?

    You really need to take a long hard look at yourself its pathetic.

    Stumps, you really are quite sensitive! I didn’t make a pop at Froome, and it wasn’t veiled – my observation that Froome now lies 2nd on GC is in response to the original post, which said:

    “Is the Vuelta a closed shop for testing, given the top 3 are now Spanish??”

    Nothing implied – hence my, “just sayin” remark.

    Regarding riders I like to watch, if you check back you’ll realise that my view on doping is that it is rife at the top level of most pro sports – therefore I don’t get hung up about it.

    Contador is sheer class, period!

    What I can’t stand is bullsh!t and hypocrisy…not just amongst sports people, but also commentators and fans (I hope for your sake Froome doesn’t turn it around and win this tour!)

    Check my comment on the recent story of the Astana rider who was popped at Eneco – that clearly states my stance on doping.

    Chill man!

    September 12, 2014 at 8:12 am #813441
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    Stumps

    daddyELVIS wrote:Crosshair

    daddyELVIS wrote:
    Crosshair wrote:
    …..with the exception of the fight the other day, it’s all a little bit bland these days no?

    one of the best races I’ve seen this year was the Eneco Tour – proper racing every day!

    Getting back to the original question, Kimmage has recently been making a lot of noise about the alleged doping in tennis!

    Re, Contador – love his style, panache, and sheer guts on a bike!

    So you like the way Contador is performing, a known drug cheat, yet you make yet another veiled pop at Froome because he’s second after nearly turning himself inside out on the last stage to gain a few seconds on another proven drug cheat ?

    You really need to take a long hard look at yourself its pathetic.

    September 12, 2014 at 7:55 am #813439
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    daddyELVIS

    Crosshair wrote:…..with the

    Crosshair wrote:
    …..with the exception of the fight the other day, it’s all a little bit bland these days no?

    one of the best races I’ve seen this year was the Eneco Tour – proper racing every day!

    Getting back to the original question, Kimmage has recently been making a lot of noise about the alleged doping in tennis!

    Re, Contador – love his style, panache, and sheer guts on a bike!

    September 12, 2014 at 7:15 am #813437
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    Colin Peyresourde

    arrieredupeleton wrote:I

    arrieredupeleton wrote:
    I don’t think Colin’s speculation about Eric Abidal is fair – people get cancer and have heart attacks at all ages. Because he played for Barcelona doesn’t mean he’s a doper. Indeed, by the time he signed for them (2007), the Spanish Police had already busted Fuentes.

    What do you mean it isn’t fair? I said you can’t draw a connection without an athlete confession.

    As for the footballers dying of heart attacks don’t you think it odd that it has happened in Spain more than anywhere else? Plus I believe the owner of Real Socieadad (it might have been another club) came out with some comment about cleaning up his clubs doping culture, saying he was shocked at the extent and range that went on.

    September 12, 2014 at 6:43 am #813435
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    Crosshair

    It’s not so much the three
    It’s not so much the three week turn around from his broken leg that raises my eyebrows, it’s the composure he shows in post-stage interviews. Blathering on at ten to the dozen like he’s just had a can of Redbull with two Baroccas in it whilst Froome, sweaty and disheveled, struggles to spin his legs back to life on the turbo whilst blurting out a few breathless words.

    It is fishy but it’s fun having a bit of a discussion point- with the exception of the fight the other day, it’s all a little bit bland these days no?

    September 11, 2014 at 10:55 pm #813433
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    daddyELVIS

    Froome is 2nd on GC now –
    Froome is 2nd on GC now – just sayin’!

    September 10, 2014 at 2:13 pm #813431
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    arrieredupeleton

    I don’t think Colin’s
    I don’t think Colin’s speculation about Eric Abidal is fair – people get cancer and have heart attacks at all ages. Because he played for Barcelona doesn’t mean he’s a doper. Indeed, by the time he signed for them (2007), the Spanish Police had already busted Fuentes.

    I am fully aware of the alleged links both Barca and the Reals (Madrid and Sociedad) have to Fuentes and also the particularly strong rumours about a certain spanish tennis-ist.

    I do agree though that Spain has an endemic liberal attitude towards sports doping all the way down from royals. My money’s on Valverde to perform a Landis like resurrection on the last mountaintop finish.

    September 10, 2014 at 1:25 pm #813429
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    farrell

    One explanation for the
    One explanation for the apparent jump in performance could be that riders know that they have nothing else to save themselves for so give it one last blast so they finish the season with nothing left in them, whilst at the same time riders that are pretty much finished and phoning it in get dropped easier by those riders that are leaving it all out on the road.

    You could also reason that some riders want to put in a final show to put themselves in the shop window to get a new contract or team or to feature higher up in their teams plans next season.

    But mainly, you have to think somethings a bit fishy and it’s not just the paella.

    September 10, 2014 at 12:13 pm #813427
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    Colin Peyresourde

    Yes, the Spanish have a lousy
    Yes, the Spanish have a lousy record of doping control. You just have to look at Armstrong/US postal in Girona, and Fuentes in Madrid to suspect that they have no moral compunction to find sports doping.

    It’s little wonder they have football players dying on the pitches (from heart attacks). I did wonder about Abidal’s liver cancer, but I am not sure you could necessarily make a connection without the individual confessing, and I am sure that there is plenty of hush money from the owners.

    I doubt any rider is ‘drug’ free year round, and micro-dosing of EPO and testosterone does a lot to keep riders topped up year round. What is marked is the way the riders at the Vuelta seem a little bit more energetic up these steep climbs, when you’d expect the opposite with a season tailing race. The Spanish Armada springs up those 30%ers with a glee you just don’t see sustained at any of the other non-Spanish races.

    September 10, 2014 at 10:35 am #813425
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    farrell

    SteppenHerring wrote:farrell

    SteppenHerring wrote:
    farrell wrote:
    There is something that feels a bit funny about the Vuelta though.

    Yes. Not like last year.

    The Vuelta in general, not just this year.

    September 9, 2014 at 10:06 pm #813423
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    Stumps

    When it comes to previously
    When it comes to previously banned riders AND Riis working together I have major doubts but as long as he is tested regularly that’s all i can ask.

    September 9, 2014 at 8:00 pm #813421
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    FJM1002

    It doesn’t seem as dodgy as
    It doesn’t seem as dodgy as Horner winning last year

    September 9, 2014 at 12:13 pm #813419
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    SteppenHerring

    farrell wrote:There is

    farrell wrote:
    There is something that feels a bit funny about the Vuelta though.

    Yes. Not like last year.

    September 9, 2014 at 11:20 am #813417
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    themartincox

    I bloody love Digger!
    yes
    I bloody love Digger!

    yes he’s a bit ranty, and goes off repeatedly, but I do think he’s simply saying what a lot of people are thinking (even if they don’t want to admit it even to themselves)

    but yes, totally OTT , which is endearing in his own special way!

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