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  • August 6, 2014 at 5:46 pm #22086
    Mrmiik

    Hi there,

    Any one got any insight on these Deda 30mm AL wheels?
    http://www.dedaelementiruote.com/en/WD30ALCL.htm

    Look like they will tick the box when it comes to a low weight alloy training wheel with an aero advantage.

    At 1450g I am seriously tempted by these hoops!

    Any real word experience would be great.

    Thanks.
    Mike

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  • December 22, 2016 at 10:32 am #808139
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    DBMel

    Gordy748 wrote:

    Gordy748 wrote:
    …I know the spoke and hub manufacturer, …

    Could you please share the manufacturer’s name with us.

    December 20, 2016 at 12:20 pm #808137
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    Stef Marazzi

    Zondas are the upgrade wheel

    Zondas are the upgrade wheel of choice in my cycle group – Loads of us are fatties 90kilos+. None of them have ever buckled.

    December 20, 2016 at 11:57 am #808135
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    DBMel

    Gordy748 wrote:

    Gordy748 wrote:
    I know the spoke and hub manufacturer…

    Could you please share the manufacturer details. I’m after a freehub.

    August 8, 2014 at 3:21 pm #808133
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    Mockenrue

    Mrmiik wrote:If I’m not

    Mrmiik wrote:
    If I’m not mistaken Zondas have alloy spokes, and the Dedas have steel which I understand to be stronger? For my weight, should I be worried about low spoke count…?

    Zondas have steel spokes. I’ve owned a pair for a couple of years; I weigh 75kg and they have been no trouble at all. Great value for money wheels.

    August 8, 2014 at 12:47 pm #808131
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    notfastenough

    Well let us know what you
    Well let us know what you think of those, anyway!

    August 8, 2014 at 12:01 pm #808129
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    Mrmiik

    Oh dear…
    So I bottled it.
    Oh dear…

    So I bottled it. Slept on it and cancelled the Deda order – didn’t want to be a wheel tester!

    Gone and ordered a set of Wheelsmith Race24s. Cannot wait for them.

    M

    August 7, 2014 at 9:32 pm #808127
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    Mrmiik

    Re spoke count.
    In the past
    Re spoke count.

    In the past two months my Zondas (16F 21R) have come out of two accidents perfectly true. First hitting a car side on 10mph – front wheel into side door.

    Second, being hit by a car – impact in rear wheel.

    If I’m not mistaken Zondas have alloy spokes, and the Dedas have steel which I understand to be stronger? For my weight, should I be worried about low spoke count…?

    August 7, 2014 at 9:24 pm #808125
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    realdeal

    All the wheelbuilders I spoke
    All the wheelbuilders I spoke to told me it’s better to have weight in the spokes as this builds a stiffer wheel than one with all the weight in the rim. I suppose it’s swings and roundabouts, but performance doesn’t necessarily look racy if you know what I mean!

    If you’re thinking of something hand built, or just looking for a bit of advice on wheels give Harry Rowland a try. I’ve got 2 sets from him and the build quality is superb.

    August 7, 2014 at 9:11 pm #808123
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    Mrmiik

    Thanks for the feedback. I’m
    Thanks for the feedback. I’m around the 64kg mark. Gordy748, the info is much appreciated and gives me something to think about! From the road cc review of the Deda carbon wheels, they came in under the listed weight – so that boosted my confidence.

    All my past deda kit (stems and seatposts) have always been pretty accurate on the weight – maybe I’ve been lucky so far?

    Saying all that my first option was actually a set of Wheelsmith Race24s – I just did not want to have to wait for them. Maybe I should reconsider and wait…

    August 7, 2014 at 8:55 pm #808121
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    realdeal

    1450g Italiany weight will be
    1450g Italiany weight will be closer to 1600g. Deda are one of the worst for this but they do make reasonable quality stuff.
    Can’t really comment on the hubs but they do look like all the weight is in the rim ,so you would have to take your weight into consideration. For a few extra shillings you’re into handbuilt territory, something I can heartily recommend.

    August 7, 2014 at 7:30 pm #808119
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    Gordy748

    18/ 20 spoke counts on alloy
    18/ 20 spoke counts on alloy wheels? With radial F and NDS and 1x DS spoke pattern?? I hope you’re not heavy.

    Having such low spoke counts is an easy way of losing weight as well as getting the wheels more aerodynamic (less spokes = less of the egg beater effect). For not much more you could get Rolfs that are even lighter.

    For both the Dedas and the Rolfs, though, the problem is durability. Hit and kink the rim on, say, a gutter or pothole, and with so few spokes it becomes really hard to realign the rim back into shape. It’s worse with the Rolfs but with 18 on the front it will be hard to get the wheel repaired in the event of an accident.

    I know the spoke and hub manufacturer, and I think the rims are KinLins; all are reputable so the build quality will be OK. Are they inverted spokes with the nipples on the inside? If so then replacing them will be difficult and expensive, plus you’ll need someone who knows their stuff. Try to make sure you get spare spokes with the wheels as inverted spokes are very rare.

    30 mm rims don’t qualify as aero rims. They will help to stiffen up the wheel to compensate for the lack of spokes but you’re not going to see much aero advantage from them.

    Overall, I’d rate these as good value-ish race wheels if you’re a junior or an aspiring lightweight Cat 4 racer, but I wouldn’t use them for training (durability) or if I were a sprinter (stiffness).

    August 7, 2014 at 6:53 pm #808117
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    notfastenough

    Yes please! Definitely
    Yes please! Definitely interested to hear more about them.

    August 7, 2014 at 6:24 pm #808115
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    Mrmiik

    Well I’ve ordered the Dedas.
    Well I’ve ordered the Dedas. I can give feedback to anyone interested in a few weeks.

    Thanks, Mike

    August 7, 2014 at 12:56 pm #808113
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    Mrmiik

    For that price I’d simply get
    For that price I’d simply get Zondas – lighter, better looks and (perhaps) stiffer ride for the money.
    From reviews of the Shimano ones, don’t think they are what I am looking for.
    Don’t worry – I had already considered them and ticked them off the list.

    Thanks!

    August 7, 2014 at 12:52 pm #808111
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    vadido

    What don’t you like about
    What don’t you like about them?

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