Advice on climbing bike 5k-6k

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    chrisp1973

    For some reason I’m reminded
    For some reason I’m reminded of time in the playground……can’t quite put my finger on it……?

    #791207
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    edd23

    I reckon if I was spending
    I reckon if I was spending that sort of cash would look seriously at the R5.

    I have the R3 and it is a fantastic bike…

    Hope the link works as review of R5 by Marcel Wüst…

    #791205
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    Al'76

    notfastenough wrote:Don’t

    notfastenough wrote:
    Don’t take this the wrong way, but wasn’t it you that posted recently having gone from Ultregra Di2 to Dura-Ace mechanical, then bought Di2 again? And now you’re looking at this? Don’t misunderstand me, if you’ve got the cash, you spend it how you want and don’t let anyone tell you different (and what lovely things to spend it on! 😀 ), but are you geniunely doing this?

    I suppose the reason I ask is that while it’s entirely reasonable to see many “what bike for a grand?” threads, I’d expect someone who is in the market for something like this to understand their requirements and preferences to such a degree that the bike will pick them rather than the other way round. (e.g. My intended style of riding + required geometry + preferred materials/components etc, + nice paintjob = bike x).

    Apologies if I’ve mistaken you for someone else, or similarly, if I’ve been presumptious about your method of buying bikes.

    Kinda what I was thinking….

    #791203
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    tonyhogg

    Interesting, thanks for that
    Interesting, thanks for that info, I’m not sure what to make of the cervelo r5, needs an immediate wheel upgrade for sure, just out of curiosity what height etc are you for the 54cm? I’m really keen to get the weight down, never tried tubulars, may get them for the izalco, I’m not so sure spending over £5k gets you any VIP treatment, no red carpet or champagne unfortunately 🙁

    I’ve not sure heavier riders feel much difference but I can from an 8kg ish bike to 6.5kg.

    #791201
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    giobox

    Cervelo R5 Dura-Ace. With a
    Cervelo R5 Dura-Ace. With a little haggling with the LBS I’m sure a wheel upgrade could get in your 6k budget too. The DI2 model is just outside your budget, but my experience with bikes at this level is that a good LBS will be open to a little haggling, the DI2 model is probably doable.

    You’ll comfortably be able to sit below the UCI 6.8kg mark with either of these bikes, and the door is open for “5kg madness” in the future. The Cannondale Supersix Evo might be a little lighter in the frame, but you have to make do with external routing. The Cervelo is much more future proof in this regard.

    I’m riding the previous gen Cervelo R5 VWD in a 54cm and have a mechanical dura ace build at 6.4kgs without doing anything too outrageous (Still riding clinchers as well). Sub 6 would definitely be doable if you’re prepared to go tubular and fit some exotic parts (Ted Ciamillo and Lightweights….)

    As for the Canyon, they look brilliant, but if you’re spending that kind of cash you’ll get pretty epic treatment from your local bike shop, and you’ll have helped a local business too. Canyon on the other hand will never have any idea who you are, or care for that matter.

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    notfastenough

    An aero frame is typically
    An aero frame is typically heavier, with the emphasis on the relative bit here. For the kind of money we’re talking about, you’ll still be able to build one to 6.8kg or thereabouts, so I don’t see weight playing a part unless you’ve some sort of 5kg madness in mind.

    #791197
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    tonyhogg

    That a seriously nice bike
    That a seriously nice bike the Felt, I’ve never given an aero type bike much consideration to be honest due to being a featherweight climber build with very little power, there BIG hills by the way! I may buy an additional aero bike and take flatter routes eventually.

    What I’m really keen to know is if anyone owns an 11sp di2 or mechanical what does your granny ring cog sound like in the small ring??? I had clicking, scraping, clunking even in the next cog down, suppose I could just wet lube a kmc chain up and put headphones in.

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    chrisp1973

    I’m not sure where you get
    I’m not sure where you get the “heavy aero bike” idea from, I’ve got a Felt AR5 and it’s light, stiff as hell with a non-compact chainset and it’s a joy to climb with, not to mention a joy to ride on the flat.

    #791193
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    crikey

    Which hills are you climbing?
    Which hills are you climbing?

    #791191
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    tonyhogg

    Old cynic, you don’t have to
    Old cynic, you don’t have to ‘ride’ back down you can freewheel if you like, I don’t want the extra weight of an aero bike climbing huge hills in compact gearing, should I change my gearing over for the trip back down the hill also (side splitting funny)

    #791189
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    crikey

    Hmmm.
    Call me an old cynic,

    Hmmm.
    Call me an old cynic, but I suspect that the qualities you are describing are not ones that anyone can accurately determine.

    I asked about swapping over because to get to the climbs, you have to ride there, and once up, you have to ride down again. Spending 5-6k on a bike should really get you something that does all that. The combination of the cost and the question leads me further into cynicism…

    #791187
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    bashthebox

    I’d guess it’s a
    I’d guess it’s a super-lightweight, stiff bike – as opposed to an aero bike which may be a little heavier, possibly a little less stiff in order to soak up the roads for long stints with your head down.

    #791185
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    chiv30

    crikey wrote:What’s the

    crikey wrote:
    What’s the difference between a ‘climbing’ bike and any other bike? Do you swap over at the top?

    Hahaha loved it

    However if I had 6k to spend on a climbing bike it would have something called the combustion engine <:P

    #791183
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    crikey

    What’s the difference between
    What’s the difference between a ‘climbing’ bike and any other bike? Do you swap over at the top?

    #791181
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    tonyhogg

    I’ve test ridden the new
    I’ve test ridden the new ultegra di2, dura ace mechanical, dura ace di2, personally I found it extremely noisy especially in the granny gear when climbing in the small ring, truly awful sounding) chain slipping, not shifting, I’m just hoping it was poor initial setups but I’ve got my doubts drivetrain noise wise. What’s that Teflon plate all about on the inside cage of mechanical dura ace?

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