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A massive saddle bag for overnight trips?

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  • April 27, 2013 at 7:27 pm #18608
    oddbydefault

    I’m looking for recommendations for a really big saddle bag. I am not a pannier rack fan, and my current bike (Van Nic Mistral) doesn’t have mounts anyway.

    I’m planning on venturing out a lot at weekends with a nice lightweight tent, a book, and a change of clothes + extras.

    Yes, there is obviously Carradice, but I’m thinking more Mark Hall (/content/news/59716-interview-round-world-record-holder-mike-hall-talks-round-world-record-kit) than slow laden touring.

    Carradice SQR Slim or SQR Tour look quite good, but there is a specific saddle bag I’ve seen used for LEJOG which is more aero shaped – long and thin. No idea of the brand though…

    Also, if anyone has a secondhand one floating around that I can buy… >:D<

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  • April 28, 2013 at 9:14 pm #730515
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    mustard

    Not awkward at all I totally
    Not awkward at all I totally get it, hence all the replies, just putting all the options out there. 🙂

    April 28, 2013 at 9:03 pm #730513
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    oddbydefault

    I have a Carradry bar box bag
    I have a Carradry bar box bag on the other bike, and have the QR bracket permanently on the bars. The Mistral is my ‘fast’ road bike, so everything needs to be able to come off and on quickly, easily, and without a trace.

    …Yeah. Not being difficult at all. The next n+1 will be an swift audaxer, I promise.

    April 28, 2013 at 8:57 pm #730511
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    mustard

    Issue with a harness, or any
    Issue with a harness, or any kind of bar bag, is the space between the hoods and remember you need to leave room for your shifters to move too.

    As for a cheap simple bodge, the Alpkit Airlock drybags are great for this kind of thing because of the loops they have attached so all you need is a strap to loop around your bars. I can’t remember if they have dimensions on their site but they’r a pretty helpful bunch so if you fire them an email asking for info i’m sure they’ll get back to you.

    edit: p.s. the Ortlieb bar bag is really great too, super quick and easy to take on and off, but does have a bracket – it connects via a cable which loops around the bars at the stem leaving the bracket in front of the stem.

    April 28, 2013 at 8:49 pm #730509
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    Gkam84 wrote:If you are
    [quote=Gkam84]If you are looking to carry your tent, something like this, or just a couple of strong straps and do it like this http://www.backcountrybiking.co.uk/product/harness/%5B/quote%5D

    This is absolutely perfect (and thanks for your other comments – all taken into consideration).

    Pity it’s completely out of stock with no due date : (

    This kit really does costs a small fortune. I think I’ll try and bodge one together myself.

    April 28, 2013 at 8:46 pm #730507
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    mustard wrote:Sounds like,

    mustard wrote:
    Sounds like, with the amount of kit you want to carry, a frame bag could be a worthwhile additional investment. Spread the load around the bike a bit.

    It’s a 52cm frame, and I’d like access to both bottle cages (one for tubes/tools), so I figured a frame bag wouldn’t really hold enough to make it worthwhile.

    I will try attaching the tent poles to the top tube, which would make everything a bit more free form.

    Following this – any ideas for waterproof handlebar bags/storage compartment which don’t need fiddley brackets? I’d like to just (velcro/tie) something small on the front.

    April 28, 2013 at 8:46 pm #730505
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    If you are looking to carry
    If you are looking to carry your tent, something like this, or just a couple of strong straps and do it like this http://www.backcountrybiking.co.uk/product/harness/

    April 28, 2013 at 8:45 pm #730503
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    mustard wrote:Sounds like,

    mustard wrote:
    Sounds like, with the amount of kit you want to carry, a frame bag could be a worthwhile additional investment. Spread the load around the bike a bit.

    It’s a 52cm frame, and I’d like access to both bottle cages (one for tubes/tools), so I figured a frame bag wouldn’t really hold enough to make it worthwhile.

    I will try attaching the tent poles to the top tube, which would make everything a bit more free form.

    Following this – any ideas for waterproof handlebar bags/storage compartment which don’t need fiddley brackets? I’d like to just (velcro/tie) something small on the front.

    April 28, 2013 at 8:36 pm #730501
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    oddbydefault

    It’s a pretty small frame,
    It’s a pretty small frame, and my knees sometimes knock the top tube as is. I am struggling with the Topeak bag on the top! The bike fits me perfectly, it just isn’t designed for luggage.

    mustard wrote:
    I really need to get better at keeping forum posts short and concise!

    Nah. I ramble on a bit too, but then really appreciate long informative posts. Can’t have too much info with kit imho.

    April 28, 2013 at 7:54 pm #730499
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    mustard

    I really need to get better
    I really need to get better at keeping forum posts short and concise!

    April 28, 2013 at 7:53 pm #730497
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    mustard

    Sounds like, with the amount
    Sounds like, with the amount of kit you want to carry, a frame bag could be a worthwhile additional investment. Spread the load around the bike a bit. Either get one shaped to allow you to still access your bottle cages (you may still need to replace them with side loaders), or pop the bottles in the top – i did the latter on a mtb tour and it was easy to pull the zip back enough to grab the bottle, even at speed off road.

    Or could you pack your tent so it is deep and flattish, rather than round, and just strap that to the underside of your downtube without buying a frame bag for it? You’ve a big empty space there and loads piled on the back of your seatpost/saddle.

    chokofingrz wrote:
    I did a 350-mile tour with mine and it did slightly brush my thighs but not enough to impede pedaling or cause a friction problem – actually it was quite reassuring to constantly feel that my luggage was still with me!
    Interesting, I definitely understand the reassurance of feeling it’s still there – i was using a beam rack with an Alpkit Gourdon strapped to it on my mtb tour and occasionally the bag would slip on rougher sections, i never lost it, but did buzz a few holes in it with the tyre!

    April 28, 2013 at 7:29 pm #730495
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    chokofingrz

    mustard wrote:I’ve a feeling

    mustard wrote:
    I’ve a feeling that a dry bag bungied to the saddle rails will rub your thighs while riding as it is a uniform shape rather than tapered towards the seat post. It also may not be as stable.

    It depends on your saddle. I did a 350-mile tour with mine and it did slightly brush my thighs but not enough to impede pedaling or cause a friction problem – actually it was quite reassuring to constantly feel that my luggage was still with me! With a heavy-duty automotive-style bungee there was no movement or danger of it dropping off. Extra items like jackets can be secured under the bungee. It works best if the drybag is fully packed.

    April 28, 2013 at 6:40 pm #730493
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    hammond83 wrote:I think you

    hammond83 wrote:
    I think you may want the Ortleib large saddle bag. I haven’t got a link but google it.

    I already have the Ortlieb large saddle bag with QR bracket. It holds 2.7l only though.

    I haven’t tried this current setup for any distance yet, but I’m going to try and bungee everything on to the Ortlieb bag (possibly a terrible plan). The tent seems happy enough up there (The one I’m taking is 1.6kg – the one pictured is a little heavier and larger):

    [url=http://postimg.org/image/a60kg209x/]http://s18.postimg.org/a60kg209x/DSC_0935.jpg[/url]

    mustard wrote:
    How about this: http://wildcatgear.co.uk/products/seat-packs/

    They recommend a round dry bag rather, than the ‘squashed’ shape of the Alpkit ones, for the best fit.

    This is pretty good actually! I wonder if I can attach a tent around it…

    April 28, 2013 at 4:51 pm #730491
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    mustard

    chokofingrz wrote:Alpkit

    chokofingrz wrote:
    Alpkit Airlok XTra drybag + bungee cord. ……. made in UK, perfect for a spot of adventuring.

    While they are a great company and I own lots of their kit, Alpkit Airlocks are not made in teh UK, I think it’s just their chalk bags, frame bags and bouldering mats that are UK manufactured.

    It will be cheap to find out if it works for you or not, but I’ve a feeling that a dry bag bungied to the saddle rails will rub your thighs while riding as it is a uniform shape rather than tapered towards the seat post. It also may not be as stable – I’d try webbing luggage straps and toe straps rather than elastic bungees if i was going to try it.

    April 28, 2013 at 4:45 pm #730489
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    mustard

    How about this:
    How about this: http://wildcatgear.co.uk/products/seat-packs/

    They recommend a round dry bag rather, than the ‘squashed’ shape of the Alpkit ones, for the best fit.

    Nice thing with it is you can leave it on the bike and just pop the dry bag out rather than having to remove then re-fit it each morning.

    There is also a Polish guy who makes Revelate type saddle bags for good prices, I can’t remember the name but if you search Singletrackworld.com forum for saddle bags and/or bikepacking you’ll get lots of links and opinions.

    April 28, 2013 at 4:25 pm #730487
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    hammond83

    I think you may want the
    I think you may want the Ortleib large saddle bag. I haven’t got a link but google it.

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