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  • December 23, 2012 at 12:45 pm #17510
    Raleigh

    To ride 2 abreast?

    Because I’m pretty sure its not.

    Been getting a LOT of stick for this from Suffolk drivers this week, and we only do it when there’s a white line in the middle of the road?

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  • December 24, 2012 at 2:16 pm #709495
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    badback

    Interestingly enough the
    Interestingly enough the British Horse Society recommend that riders ride two abreast so that drivers do not attempt to overtake them when the road is too narrow.

    Not much fun when you get behind a pair of four legged shit monsters on a country lane on your bike though.

    December 23, 2012 at 9:04 pm #709493
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    SideBurn

    Mr_eL_Bee wrote:Not illegal –

    Mr_eL_Bee wrote:
    Not illegal – Highway code says this:
    66
    –never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends

    Remember The Highway Code is advisory (but ignore it at your peril) I am pretty sure the law is that you ‘should not’ (not ‘must not’) ride more than two abreast. Otherwise road racing is illegal? Will look it up when I get home…

    December 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm #709491
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    Municipal Waste

    Usually when I cycle with
    Usually when I cycle with friends we ride two abreast but then if someone can’t get past we just go into one line but far enough apart to annoy them 😉

    December 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm #709489
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    Raleigh

    Yep, I tend to only move over
    Yep, I tend to only move over when a car is overtaking, the left hand tyre track is often smoother, like Simon E says.

    V. annoying when someone wants to overtake just to beat you to a junction, then you pull up about 3 seconds after.

    ~X(

    December 23, 2012 at 4:28 pm #709487
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    Simon E

    Short answer is that Suffolk
    Short answer is that Suffolk drivers need educating.

    Riding 2 abreast annoys some drivers because they feel you shouldn’t be “in their way”. Fact is you’re a road user just as they are but of course an obstacle 2 cyclists are much more difficult for idiots to push past into oncoming traffic.

    There’s no need to be inconsiderate but your safety ranks way above some impatient jerk’s need to join the queue up the road 5 or 10 seconds earlier. In a group 2 abreast creates a shorter bunch of riders than single file so actually makes overtaking easier, but trying to make some pig-headed drivers understand this is impossible so I suggest you don’t bother trying.

    @londonplayer, yes Primary position AKA ‘taking the lane’ is a key element of defensive riding, particlarly in urban traffic. It was outlined long ago in John Franklin’s book Cyclecraft. Bikeradar has an article on road positioning and other training orgs will have similarly helpful advice online.

    Using it takes a bit of nerve but it prevents you being cut up e.g. on the approach to pinch points like refuges, pedestrian crossings, mini RABs and so on. And never ride in the gutter, you’re giving everyone behind you the impression that you are scared and are giving them just enough to squeeze past. I generally ride in the left hand car tyre tracks – you are much less likely to encounter stones, glass and other detritus as well as avoiding drains. You are also more visible to those waiting at side roads.

    December 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm #709485
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    Stumps

    londonplayer wrote:Am I right

    londonplayer wrote:
    Am I right in thinking that you are allowed to ride in the middle of the lane if you feel like it? Sometimes it’s definitely safer to in London.

    You can cycle whever you want as long as its in the right lane. A little courtesy is all that is required 😀

    December 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm #709483
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    londonplayer

    Am I right in thinking that
    Am I right in thinking that you are allowed to ride in the middle of the lane if you feel like it? Sometimes it’s definitely safer to in London.

    December 23, 2012 at 3:06 pm #709481
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    Raleigh

    Cool. Thanks guys
    Cool. Thanks guys

    December 23, 2012 at 1:11 pm #709479
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    Velo_Alex

    It’s not illegal. Rule
    It’s not illegal. Rule 66

    https://www.gov.uk/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82/overview-59-to-71

    December 23, 2012 at 1:09 pm #709477
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    Mr_eL_Bee

    Not illegal – Highway code
    Not illegal – Highway code says this:
    66

    You should

    -keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
    -keep both feet on the pedals
    –never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
    -not ride close behind another vehicle
    -not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain
    -be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a bell be fitted.

    December 23, 2012 at 12:45 pm #709475
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    Raleigh

    Note the ironic use of the
    Note the ironic use of the final question mark.

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