Another, deeper fantasy idea

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    Garfield

    First of all, I hope the admins will show some leniency towards this slightly off-topic thread. (I wasn’t sure where to place it, I figured this subforum is read by the most fantasy freaks like myself.) I love the idea of “Fantasy Cycling”, but I’m here to tell you some more about my own little project and hear what you guys think.

    Short version

    I am organizing an independent fantasy competition (starting from Paris-Nice) which, unlike “Fantasy Cycling”, focuses more on the long-term future of your fantasy team that competes with the other 17 WorldTour teams. It is a so-called contracts (aka dynasty) league, in which you initially keep 3-5 riders from a chosen WorldTour team, and then complete your team by bidding for the rest of the peloton offering them contracts up to 3 years long, while being limited by a salary cap. Then you select 8/9 riders to compete in each WorldTour event. Pretty much makes you feel like a real team owner. I don’t think it has been tried before. I’m looking forward to your comments, advice, or maybe even interest in joining. More details: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=1107.0

    Long version – the rules

    Summary
    This is a fantasy league in which you take over one of the 18 World Tour teams, sign up to 30 riders in a series of auctions, and give them multi-year contracts within your total salary cap. Then you choose 8/9 guys to score for you in each race based on the real-life results, and redo the bidding for riders out of contract and neo-pros each January.

    Salary Cap
    Each team starts with 3-5 keepers and is equally rich. It can spend €5M per year on salaries, including the keepers. Each team can have between 20 and 30 riders.

    Keepers’ Salaries
    All keepers are on a 1 year deal. The salary is derived from his CQ ranking in 2011, 2010, and 2009. The highest of the three is multiplied by 500 and rounded up to the next €10k. Minimum keeper salary is €100k. Examples:
    Vanendert – 435*500=217500 => €220k
    Gilbert – 3168*500=1584000 => €1.58M
    Voeckler – 1744*500=872000 => €880k
    Boonen – 1377*500=688500 => €690k
    Your grandma – 0*500 => €100k

    FA Bidding
    Bids are in format of total contract value. The minimum bid is €30k and the minimum increment is 10% of the last bid, rounded up to the nearest €10k. Note that the number of years does not need to be listed until the bid is won. The resulting salary will be the final bid divided by number of years, rounded up to the next €10k. The winning bid will be the highest total contract amount.

    Each player is auctioned in a separate thread at the ProFSL website that may be started by anyone, but please follow the template. There is no limit to the number of players that can be auctioned at one time or the number of bids for a player. You cannot at any point make bids that (if all successful) would take you over 30 riders or the salary cap. A bid on a player is considered final when it has been open for 48 hours. This means that no other GM has bid higher on the player of interest.

    Contracts
    Bidding will be done for players before the league starts and as well as during free agency each following winter. You will be bidding on the whole amount of the contract. Example: If a team bids €3M for Cadel Evans, then that declares that the entire value of his contract is €3M, and they can still choose between 1 year €3M, 2 years €1.5M per, or 3 years €1M per. If he retires earlier, tough luck. Contract guidelines are:

    Salary range, Maximum Years
    €200k or less (per year) = 1 year
    €210k – €990k = 2 years
    €1M or higher = 3 years

    Example: Astana sign Andy Schleck for €2.4M. Based on this amount, they are only able to sign him to a contract up to 2 years, because if Andy’s total salary was broken down over 3 years, it would only be €800k per year, not the €1M that is required for a 3 year contract. Nevertheless, if the bid was won at €2.4M then a higher total contract amount can be awarded.

    Trades
    Two teams can at any point exchange riders and their contracts, as long as it keeps them within the salary cap.

    Free agents
    A team can at any point during the season start an auction for any rider on the free market. From February 1st, please send a PM to everybody in such a case, the clock increases to 96 hours.

    Scoring
    Until the evening before the race (until 23h59 local time), every team nominates 8 riders (9 for the Grand Tours) that represent them in this race. Only these riders will score points if they do well IRL. If a team doesn’t announce its squad, their 8/9 highest paid riders not participating in any other race at this moment will be selected automatically.

    Points are scored in UCI WorldTour events only, but according to the CQ ranking scoring, and not to the UCI WorldTour scoring. CQ ranking rewards riders for finishing well in classics, stages, stage races, but also for keeping and winning jerseys.

    All these points are added up in the individual ranking. The final score of each team will be equal to the sum of the points scored by their riders in the calendar year (when nominated for races). The ranking of teams in the unlikely event of a tie will be determined by the place of their best rider in the individual ranking.

    Calendar
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UCI_World_Tour#Events
    (We’re skipping Tour Down Under this year.)

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  • #1156997
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    Garfield

    Looking forward to 2026

    Looking forward to 2026 already!

    We’re kicking off on November 1 as usual.

    You can sign up here:

    https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/global-sign-sheet

    #661757
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    Garfield

    We’re back for 2025!

    We’re back for 2025!

    Kicking off on November 1. 

    Sign up here please:

    https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/global-sign-sheet

    #661755
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    Garfield

    We’re back baby!

    We’re back baby!

    Kicking off on November 6.

    14 teams confirmed, would love to get back to the usual 18 to avoid those awkward merger talks 😉

    Sign up here please:

    https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/sign-sheet-rule-all

    #661753
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    Garfield

    New season, new chance to

    New season, new chance to join. Don’t miss it! Sign up here:

    https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/sign-sheet-rule-all

    #661751
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    Garfield

    Update: just realized the

    Update: just realized the opening post hasn’t aged well, since we’ve moved to our own platform and improved the game over the past 9 years. Sign up here: https://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/sign-sheet-rule-all

    Starting tomorrow, but you’ll be alright if you sign up within a week or so.

    #661749
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    Garfield

    We’re back on November 1 and

    We’re back on November 1 and you’re in luck – a couple of spots have opened up!

    #661747
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    Garfield

    Hope everybody is still

    Hope everybody is still healthy, safe, and sane!

    When a pandemic keeps you indoors, why not join an original fantasy project?

    We’re starting the new season in 2 weeks.

    #661745
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    Garfield

    We’re underway, today is your

    We’re underway, today is your last chance to join.
    (We’re 18, while 19-20 would resemble the real-life World Tour a bit more, thus the push.)

    #661743
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    Garfield

    The auctions for 2020 will

    The auctions for 2020 will start on November 1.

    We have a couple of openings!

    The other exciting news is that we conveniently upgraded to the ever-popular ProBoards, and thus you’ll find the sign-up sheet here: http://fantasycycling.freeforums.net/thread/1/global-sign-sheet

    (Please contact me there directly, you can even post as a guest if you insist.)

    #661741
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    Garfield

    18 returning teams for 2019,

    18 returning teams for 2019, looking for 2 more. The auctions begin on November 1.

    #661739
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    Garfield

    Our season-long games are

    Our season-long games are mostly filled, but you can still join one of the daily competitions now that the cycling season is finally underway!

    1. In Wall Street Cycling we hold a bunch of intense auctions on the evening before each WT race, and once you secured a rider by betting the highest, you’ll score positive if his CQ score exceeds your bet, or negative if it’s below: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=3473

    2. Life Behind Bars is a winner guessing game for anything you please, from TdF polka-dot jersey to a La Tropicale Amissa Bongo stage. Again, a wrong bet is worse off than not placing any, so cycling knowledge is more important than sheer activity: http://www.profsl.com/smf/index.php?board=3608

    #661737
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    Garfield

    Yes, we’ll be back for 2018.

    Yes, we’ll be back for 2018.
    If interested, please make the leap of faith: create a free ProFSL account and PM me there. Cheers!

    #661735
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    Garfield

    Rory McCann wrote:

    FYI: kick-off is November 1.

    Rory McCann wrote:
    It looks tempting! For how long have you been doing this?

    First attempts in 2012. Since 2013 more professionally.

    Like I said Rory: please note I’m not around here very often, so in order to join I’m afraid you MUST sign up to ProFSL  and contact me there using the links you’ll find in my opening post.

    #661733
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    marrcena

    Good to go, we’ll back you up

    Good to go, we’ll back you up

    #661731
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    Rory McCann

    It looks tempting! For how

    It looks tempting! For how long have you been doing this?

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