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Your bike hates you, Gumtree edition: How not to fit a front mech; DCS Andy Cox questions Mail coverage of Jeremy Vine cycle lane near miss; Monster Raving Loony Party: 15-minute city conspiracy theories "even too loony for us" + more on the live blog

Been ages since I've done one of these... Dan Alexander is back on live blog duty for the rest of the week, starting with Wednesday's (*checks it is definitely Wednesday this time)...
15 February 2023, 14:31
Your bike hates you, Gumtree edition: How not to fit a front mech

"Marin Eldridge Grade Bike. Rare classic 1990s collector's item. Very original, good condition."

Cool, let me take a look... erm, what?!

Gumtree bike
Gumtree bike
Gumtree bike

To avoid being scammed or disappointed Gumtree advises buyers to "ask lots of questions about the items you are buying" but to be completely honest, I'm not sure I want to.

"If an ad sounds too good to be true then it probably is," they also warn. Not an issue here...

It's collection only from Axminster in Devon if anyone's interested in this ultra-inefficient set-up. Keep your oval chainrings, Froomey, it's all about rusty trianglular chain routing these days...

Oh, and I almost forgot to mention. £190?! Go make 'em an offer if you dare...

15 February 2023, 16:58
Cav might go to the Giro before Tour de France, Alexander Vinokourov suggests
2023 Mark Cavendish Wilier Filante Astana - 1 (1)

Astana Qazaqstan team boss Alexander Vinokourov has outlined a possible timeline for Mark Cavendish's route to the Tour de France, suggesting a Giro d'Italia appearance could be on the cards.

"We'll try to win races before and then concentrate on the Giro and Tour," he told Cyclingnews at the Tour of Oman, Cav's first race for the team.

"I don't know about going to the finish, but for preparation, winning stages is always a good motivation and it helps to arrive relaxed to the Tour. We'll see later, but in any case, it’s an idea and Mark is open to it. I think the more races you do, the better it is.

"After UAE, it's Tirreno and I think Milan-San Remo too. Then he'll do some races in Belgium. He'll rest a little bit and then race the Tour of Turkey and maybe the Giro. There are four or five days between them."

15 February 2023, 16:19
2023 WorldTour Bikes | Who's Riding What In The Men's & Women's Pro Peloton?

15 February 2023, 15:30
Pogačar goes two from two — wins Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol opening stage with monstrous attack

It's just too easy for this lad...

Second race day of the year and Tadej's got his second win. It was a typically dominant win too, smashing clear of the peloton on the final climb of the day, shelling the brave Santiago Buitrago, who had been clinging on for dear life, a few hundred metres later and soloing to the line.

15 February 2023, 10:39
"There really should be no need to debate this": DCS Andy Cox questions Daily Mail coverage of Jeremy Vine cycle lane near miss

Remember this from yesterday's live blog? 

Well, here's the Mail's coverage...

Another classic for the 'who was in the right?' folder. Thankfully, DCS Andy Cox was on hand to respond to the reporting...

15 February 2023, 12:18
Mail on Sunday cleared by Independent Press Standards Organisation over "Red light rats!" story
Mail on Sunday 'Red light rats' headline (screenshot, Mail on Sunday)

IPSO (the Independent Press Standards Organisation) has ruled there was no breach of the editor's code in a Mail on Sunday piece of 20 August 2022, titled "Red light rats!", about cyclists jumping red lights outside Buckingham Palace.

IPSO deemed there was no breach of Clause 1, relating to accuracy, which states: 

The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information or images, including headlines not supported by the text.

 The complaint related to the idea, shared on Twitter, that the road had been closed to motor vehicles at the time and police had been present telling riders to continue. They also questioned the use of a composite photo which meant it may unable to confirm if any cyclists pictured had jumped a red light. The complainant also suggested the article was an attempt to create "road rage" towards cyclists, compounded by calling them "rats".

However, IPSO's committee deemed:

The newspaper had demonstrated that its journalist and photographer had been present at the scene, and taken the photographs used to create the composite picture. The photos showed that cars and vans in both directions were stopped at the traffic lights while the green man was on or while the adjacent digital display showed a countdown, indicating that they were stopped at a red light. The photos also showed a number of cyclists passing through the crossing while the green man was on, while pedestrians were crossing and while the cars remained stationary.

 And...

In addition, the publication had said that there had been no police present and the road had been functioning as normal – which again was supported by the pictures it had provided. The Committee also noted that the complainant had not been present at the scene and was speculating that the road had been closed based on information from social media. Taking all this into consideration, it was the Committee’s view that the publication had taken sufficient care not to publish inaccurate or misleading information, and it was not inaccurate or misleading to claim that the cyclists had "ignored the traffic signal" and "jump[ed] a red light".

 On the "rats" front...

The Committee also noted the complainant’s concerns regarding the phrase "rats" and that he considered this was an attempt to create anger towards cyclists. The Committee noted that the Editors' Code of Practice makes clear the press has the right to be partisan, to give its own opinion and to publish individuals’ views, as long as it takes care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, and to distinguish between comment, conjecture and fact. In this instance, the description of the cyclists as "rats" was clearly the opinion of the newspaper, and clearly attributed to it. Further, this was a subjective characterisation, and while the Committee noted the complainant disagreed with this description, this did not in itself mean that the article was inaccurate or misleading to include it.

 The full ruling can be read here...

15 February 2023, 11:58
Mauri Vansevenant punches to stage four glory in Oman but Matteo Jorgenson clings on to GC by ONE SECOND

Atop the Green Mountain, Soudal Quick-Step's Mauri Vansevenant came past Matteo Jorgenson in the final hundred metres to claim stage victory...

Jorgenson had looked in control, easily following Vansevenant's earlier accelerations, but kicked too soon and was passed with the finish line in sight. Fortunately for the young American, Vansevenant could not open a big enough gap to also take the race overall, Jorgenson taking the crown by one second. 

But you can't accuse Mauri of not trying...

15 February 2023, 11:55
Bling bikes
15 February 2023, 10:33
Count the cyclists

Sorry, no answer for you, I don't have a clue... 

15 February 2023, 08:48
Monster Raving Loony Party admits 15-minute city conspiracy theories are "even too loony for us"

You've probably heard about 15-minute cities by now but if not, in a nutshell: they are schemes promoting active travel, much like low-traffic neighbourhoods, to create urban areas where local amenities can be easily and safely accessed on foot or by bike within 15 minutes.

LTN planters

Some feature planters and bollards, others ANPR number plate recognition cameras to make sure drivers don't go where they shouldn't. Anyway, the idea that you can walk to the shops in 15 minutes is highly controversial, of course, and has attracted the shouty right wing types on Twitter (plus some non-right wing types, probably). Think, Katie Hopkins, Laurence Fox, Nigel Farage and you're pretty much there...

> Tory MP attacks 15-minute city concept with known conspiracy theory

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And while some would ask how you could possibly object to the convenience of walking to the shops in 15 minutes, the figures above and others on Twitter and Facebook like to shout about a threat to freedom, surveillance states, climate lockdowns etc. etc.

> GB News presenter claims 15-minute cities and LTNs are "un-British" and "illiberal"

And while Conservative MP Nick Fletcher even brought up the issue in Parliament last week, one political party you won't be hearing anything from on the matter is the Monster Raving Loony Party...

The satire-heavy creation of Screaming Lord Sutch, behind such policy proposals as half the grey squirrels being painted red to increase the red squirrel population and national debt being cleared by putting it on a credit card, admitted to the Guardian's Peter Walker that the idea that 15-minute cities are a plot to imprison people in their own homes is "even too loony for us"...

Happy Wednesday... 

15 February 2023, 09:31
15-minute cities hit TikTok

Dan is the road.cc news editor and has spent the past four years writing stories and features, as well as (hopefully) keeping you entertained on the live blog. Having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for the Non-League Paper, Dan joined road.cc in 2020. Come the weekend you'll find him labouring up a hill, probably with a mouth full of jelly babies, or making a bonk-induced trip to a south of England petrol station... in search of more jelly babies.

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belugabob | 1 year ago
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So, Jeremy Vine doesn't like the way that some people drive and some people don't like the way that Jeremy Vine responds to misbehaving drivers.
That's 2 unhappy parties - only one of which has the power to remove both lots of unhappiness by changing their own behaviour...

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Roulereo | 1 year ago
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To be fair, and providing some much needed balance, the concept of 15 minute cities is not as simple as having lots of nice things close by and everyone walking happily to their local shops. 

There is an insidious feeling about government control and the creeping disease of socialism, not without reason when you look at the human toll of Lockdowns and mandates, treatment of people who want to make their own personal decision on vaccines, and many government responses to Covid.

Having quotas on how far you can drive, locking down areas for some and not others, etc. is a very slippery slope. It's not hard to see China's social credit score being adopted. Getting a permit to visit your parents, not having enough credit to go on a holiday, etc. sounds silly, but so did keeping 1.5m away from each other, or wearing a mask in your home a few years ago. 

This is all about freedom for many. 

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the little onion replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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How do you feel about not being able to drive legally about 70mph on a motorway, or 30mph on an urban road? Does that restrict your freedom too much. Or how about the freedom to drive on the right-hand-side of the road?

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wtjs replied to the little onion | 1 year ago
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Or how about the freedom to drive on the right-hand-side of the road?

Standard Anti-Vax Freedom Nutter. Could well be Johnson/ Trump supporter who denies evolution etc.

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lawrence18uk replied to the little onion | 1 year ago
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Interestingly, the Germans have seemingly headed off the move towards totalitarianism by allowing people to drive any speed on motorways... ( it's a social bargain: we may restrict you in other ways but at least on this one you're free, which proves it isn't a slippery slope)

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chrisonabike replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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Oh good lord,  isn't there an election in the US that needs preparing for or something?

I'm trying to avoid "don't hold back - tell us what you really think" as I don't want to be reminded.

However... "there's an insidious feeling about government control..."

Yes - there's some of that about.  Not sure what "many" means - is this really new?  What is the baseline for people being suspicious of "them" over the last few decades?  Or indeed longer - when in "western" countries "freedom" was constrained in a way that the Russian and Chinese governments might envy?

I can't speak for these folks.  I do know some people who are a bit suspicious.  A couple of them come from countries where recent former governments really did quietly put people in holes though (plenty to choose from).  So I will cut them some slack.

I would agree that - like our financial system - "trust" is important.  So if lots of people did suddenly stop trusting the system to the extent that they didn't cooperate that would indeed be a change.  I'm not seeing most people - for better or worse - living as anarchists though.

It's clearly time we do even more lessons on "what are your sources" and "how to do research" in schools.  (And I write as someone who wasn't keen on history, back in the day...) Instilling "critical thinking" is always going to be fighting against the tide for humans.  We should acknowledge we're not really made like that - but it's a habit worth training.  Unless you're a salesman or a demagogue keen for a compliant populace!

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Hirsute replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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"Locking down" polluting ICE vehicles. Does not affect people moving about.

Freedom to pollute is what you are arguing for.

"Permit to visit your parents" otherwise known as a vistors parking permit that we have had for donkeys years.

"creeping disease of socialism" - you should try capitalism

 

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Mark B replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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Roulereo wrote:

There is an insidious feeling about government control and the creeping disease of socialism,

I'm not sure socialism is creeping anywhere right now. At least, certainly not forwards. Retreating in the face of a right wing onslaught, yes.

(Although in the long run, perhaps we are heading towards socialism. How did the capitalist west defeat socialism in the 20th century? By giving us social democracy, so we had most of the benefits of socialism in terms of government services, and enough money to afford some of the fruits of capitalism. Some of those in power would do well to remember this).

 

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brooksby replied to Mark B | 1 year ago
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Mark B wrote:

Roulereo wrote:

There is an insidious feeling about government control and the creeping disease of socialism,

I'm not sure socialism is creeping anywhere right now. At least, certainly not forwards. Retreating in the face of a right wing onslaught, yes.

(Although in the long run, perhaps we are heading towards socialism. How did the capitalist west defeat socialism in the 20th century? By giving us social democracy, so we had most of the benefits of socialism in terms of government services, and enough money to afford some of the fruits of capitalism. Some of those in power would do well to remember this).

Is there actual genuine socialism anywhere, now?

Russia is a right wing kleptocracy and I'm not really sure how to define China's totalitarianism.

I mean - even the UK Labour Party is quietly removing anyone deemed to be too left wing, FFS.

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Yes on road.cc

"You're all TROLLS
This is such a left wing Corbynista, anti-eu and anti-Johnson site
just can't stand you toffee nosed snobs"

and

“I’m afraid it’s the Labour Party, it’s the Lib Dems, it’s the Coalition of chaos, it’s the Guardian-reading, Tofu-eating, wokerati - dare I say the anti-growth coalition that we have to thank for the disruption we are seeing on our roads today!”

 

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Robert Hardy replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Most of the disruption I see on the roads is caused by idiot motorists who drive carelessly or irresponsibly, regardless of conditions. For every hour I lose in roadworks of some description, I loose another two because yet another moron has driven his or her vehicle into someone elses.

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eburtthebike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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brooksby wrote:

I mean - even the UK Labour Party is quietly removing anyone deemed to be too left wing, FFS.

Too left wing?  As in anyone who demonstrates any socialist tendencies, anything at all, like concern for your fellow man rather than profit?

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brooksby replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

brooksby wrote:

I mean - even the UK Labour Party is quietly removing anyone deemed to be too left wing, FFS.

Too left wing?  As in anyone who demonstrates any socialist tendencies, anything at all, like concern for your fellow man rather than profit?

Tomato/tomato, says Sir Kier...

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eburtthebike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Just watched a video of the promises made by Starmer to get elected as leader, and his denial of those promises since he became leader.  He's as bad as Boris.

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chrisonabike replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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You mean "he's as electable as Boris / Blair"...?

Starmer always looks like the rather square / stiff teacher who's trying hard to contain his disappointment the kids find him dull and unpersuasive, because if he gives in to yelling at them he'll really have lost the class.  He really does believe he knows best and everyone will eventually see that though.  So obvs. prime minister material.

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Simon E replied to Roulereo | 1 year ago
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Roulereo wrote:

the concept of 15 minute cities is not as simple as having lots of nice things close by and everyone walking happily to their local shops. 

There is an insidious feeling about government control

Quite funny considering that we've had a right wing neoliberal Thatcherite Conservative government in power since 2010 (and not really Socialist one before that, Tony Blair was no Leftie).

Thanks to the endless facilitation and proliferation of private car use many people, particularly in large towns and cities, who don't drive are hemmed in by dangerous roads while noise pollution, air quality are dreadful and safety is hugely compromised.

Roulereo wrote:

This is all about freedom for many.

What 'freedom' are you referring to? Freedom to pollute, to endanger lives? Extending the ULEZ is an attempt to change priorities. If you don't like paying the tax then use a non-polluting or less polluting method of getting about the capital.

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BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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reg: front mech - I locked my bike outside a bank in Brunswick Square (busy part of central London, lots of cafes and foot fall etc) for about 10 minutes once and when I came to unlock it I noticed someone had stolen my front mech !!  And they did it without breaking the chain. Amazingly professional job it was. 

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Hirsute replied to BIRMINGHAMisaDUMP | 1 year ago
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Chain link pliers and refitted it?

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ktache replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Older front mechs had a bolt so you could break the cage, I'm guessing so you could change the mech without breaking the chain.  Before quicklinks became a big thing.

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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"Marin Eldridge Grade Bike. Rare classic 1990s collector's item. Very original, good condition."

Nothing wrong with the front mech, but the bike's upside down.

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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How did the owner of that bike on Gumtree manage to do that?

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IanMSpencer replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Took it to Halfords.

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brooksby replied to IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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IanMSpencer wrote:

Took it to Halfords.

Y'know, something just doesn't look right there, but I can't put my finger on it... 

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ubercurmudgeon | 1 year ago
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Ah, the Mail. If only they could find a female celebrity cyclist who posted videos like Jeremy Vine, they could blame them twice: first for making innocent men crash into them due to their success and/or sexy clothing, and second for having the temerity to ride a bicycle legally in what is still primarily a car-worshipping country.

Women and cyclists: Know your Limits!

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eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Monster Raving Loony Party admits 15-minute city conspiracy theories are "even too loony for us"

It has been the case for some time, at least since the premiership of Boris the Liar, that the extreme right wing delusionists of the tories are two stops from Dagenham.  Sadly, the tories have gone so far right that these people no longer appear too extreme even for them.  In the past, they'd have been laughed at and dismissed as loonies, but with the support of the DM and GB news, they have credibility.

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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Pedant mode = on

eburtthebike wrote:

are two stops from Dagenham.

Upney?

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eburtthebike replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1 year ago
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ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:

Pedant mode = on

eburtthebike wrote:

are two stops from Dagenham.

Upney?

Way past Barking.

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

ShutTheFrontDawes wrote:

Pedant mode = on

eburtthebike wrote:

are two stops from Dagenham.

Upney?

Way past Barking.

Ha nice. I've only ever heard "three stops from Dagenham (Barking (mad)).

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Rendel Harris replied to ShutTheFrontDawes | 1 year ago
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Local variation I've heard occasionally: "He's east of East Ham, him" - East Ham being the last stop before Barking as one heads east on the District Line.

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ShutTheFrontDawes replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Local variation I've heard occasionally: "He's east of East Ham, him" - East Ham being the last stop before Barking as one heads east on the District Line.

Funny, thanks for sharing. (Sincere,I know it doesn't come across on t'internet)

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