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Two new GPS models for 2013 - Live tracking, social media sharing and weather updates

Garmin have launched two brand new GPS computers today, the Edge 810 and 510 GPS computers, which feature  smartphone connectivity, live tracking and weather updates and easy social media sharing.

Externally, the 810 is virtually identical to the previous 800. The same dimensions and colour touchscreen, with no improvement in the resolution. The 510 meanwhile has a larger form factor, and gets a full colour screen and improved interface over the current 500.

The Edge 810 has a 2.6in colour screen with a 17 hour battery life and is compatible with optional detailed street or TOPO maps including BirdsEye Satellite Imagery. The Edge 510 has a new larger 2.2in colour touchscreen display and is compatible with both GPS and GLONASS satellites for faster satellite acquisition and improved signal lock. The 510 offers the promise of a 20 hour battery life.

We expected there might be a big update for the popular Edge series in our 2013 predictions and trends article, but it’s clear from the name this is a smaller update than we might have expected. There’s a lot more functionality packed inside both new computers however, and both now boast  the ability to connect to your smartphone so you can do cool things like live tracking and easier sharing of your ride data through various social media networks. Perhaps most useful of all to us UK cyclists is the live weather mode. The Edge 510 does everything the 810 does bar the navigational stuff.

The new Garmin Connect Mobile app (runs on iOS and Android) hooks up to the new Edge via Bluetooth so you can post details of your ride straight to Facebook or Twitter the moment you step of the bike at the end of a ride. No waiting to plug the Edge into a computer before you can share. In a world where more and more people are using smartphones and tablets, this is a smart move by Garmin.

Live tracking means family and friends can follow your ride from the comfort of the sofa. This will be of limited interest to many people, but for big races and challenge rides it is a good way of letting anyone interested track your progress live.

Perhaps more useful is the real-time weather forecasts and alerts the Edge 810 can serve up when paired with your smartphone. Now you could adjust your ride accordingly if there is a storm approaching. I wonder if it would be possible to ensure you always finish a ride with a tailwind?

The new Garmin Connect Mobile app will also make it easier to download routes and activities to your Garmin. Simply choose a route you want to follow and send it from your smartphone to the Edge computer.

The Edge 810 now does mutliple bikes and activities more easily, which those people who use their current Garmin on different bikes will appreciate. So you can easily swap it from your mountain bike to your road bike and back to your cyclocross bike. You can adjust the displayed data for each activity, so you could display a power based output on the road bike and switch to heart rate data on the cyclocross bike.

“With these new connected Edge devices, riders can continue to expect robust data, industry leading accuracy and durability that cyclists have come to know from Garmin,” said Dan Bartel, Garmin’s vice president of worldwide sales. “Using the connectivity through smartphones, we will enable cyclists to take advantage of features such as real-time tracking and instant uploads, while keeping their phones safe in their saddle bags and relying on the power of the Edge on their handlebars, to provide accurate data in all conditions.”

The aftermarket silicone protective cases are now available in some bright colours to complement the colour of your bike.

More info at www.garmin.com

Mat has worked for loads of bike magazines over the past 20 years, and been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. He's been road.cc technical editor for seven years, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. We send him off around the world to get all the news from launches and shows too. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a youthful 45-year-old Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a past winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer.

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cidermart [488 posts] 3 years ago
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I have recently bought an Edge 500 and am enjoying it immensely. Not sure the extra bits would warrant shelling out more for the new item but it should bring the price of the outgoing Edges down nicely.

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Gizmo_ [1381 posts] 3 years ago
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As I've only just got an Edge 200 I'm really glad that haven't brought out a new version of that! The 510 looks brilliant. Not convinced by the mapping on the 800/810: when did you last go anywhere without looking at a map first?

And one more thing. The Bluetooth connectivity means that the Garmin can use the smartphone's data connection to broadcast location etc... so far so modern. However, if you want to do that, why not just have the mobile app using the smartphone's GPS, like Endomondo, Strava, etc etc?

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daflj [13 posts] 3 years ago
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Would it be possible for Road.cc to do a comparative review of the 810 against the Mio 305?

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notfastenough [3665 posts] 3 years ago
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Father Christmas brought me an Edge 200 (actually I received the cash, and bought the Edge) as well. I wouldn't rule out an updated 200 being announced hot on the heels of this to be honest. Boo hiss.

My first impressions are that for uploading to Strava and reviewing the ride afterwards, the smartphone is better, simply because it's all done and dusted with a few button presses and I don't have to switch the laptop on to get the data off the device. However, I do like having the speed etc visible in real-time, as well as not having to bother with magnets/sensors etc.

Re the mapping, I think it would be great to see a nice-looking route, download the file, and simply follow the directions. However, I'm not keen on the size of the device, the cost or needing to constantly look away from the road to see where the next turning is.

Bring on a lightweight augmented-reality heads-up display that projects turn arrows onto the road ahead, and now we're talking! Nice integration into my Bolle specs, and my credit card will be trembling in it's boots...

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sporran [42 posts] 3 years ago
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@Gizmo, the difference is the battery life compared to mobile phones - I'm not sure what the figures are for the 510 and 810, but I've had my Edge 200 (the basement model) running constantly on a 9 hour ride and it was only just below 50% charge at the end.

Running something like Strava or Endomondo on iPhone, the phone is dead after a couple of hours.

The live tracking is more useful than it would seem at first; this is something I'd thought would be a really good idea to build in - it would be useful for family/friends who want to come and watch you in an event, saving them hanging round for ages as they can see exactly when you're getting near.

I wonder if a similar Edge 210 will be released at some point with these features - the colour touchscreen is overkill for me, and I'd be quite happy with a black and white screen with buttons if it was still half the price.

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abudhabiChris [692 posts] 3 years ago
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"a larger form factor" - does that mean it's bigger ? Getting in an early entry for the Plain English prize perhaps.

More seriously, do they still have the same mounting system. Because on my Edge 500 the plastic tabs which hold it into the mount have snapped off. And on the Garmin forums there are a lot of people saying they have the same problem at about two years.

It appears to be a design flaw. And I find it particularly annoying that it is a flaw in 50p's worth of plastic that ruins a 200 quid device.

Garmin have offered to replace it but at a reduced cost, not free, which seems to be the general story on the forums too.

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Sadly Biggins [269 posts] 3 years ago
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Does this mean that the Edge 800 will be coming down in price shortly?  4

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Scottyroyal [19 posts] 3 years ago
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Anyone want to buy a 1 month old 800 - VGC
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Tony Farrelly [2868 posts] 3 years ago
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daflj wrote:

Would it be possible for Road.cc to do a comparative review of the 810 against the Mio 305?

We don't normally do comparative reviews, but it might be an idea to do some sort of round-up, to give people an idea of what's out there and how they all compare.

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bobinski [226 posts] 3 years ago
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This update seems essentially a software one at least on the 810. I was hoping for an improvement in the screen and the same kind of ease of use that you get with a smartphone app allied to the Garmins internals. Bluetooth is welcome but is still a bit clunky and this seems an opportunity wasted unless of course another device is planned.

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mikeprytherch [223 posts] 3 years ago
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Great timing Garmin, you really know how to piss off all those people who got an 800 for Christmas !

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Default Username [9 posts] 3 years ago
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So I'm out riding, its windy from the SE and warmish. I push a button on my GPS-enabled £350 mega-device and it tells me it's windy from the SE and warmish?

On another subject, please get in touch if you are interested in the old rope I'm trying to sell

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Paul J [865 posts] 3 years ago
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Put your phone into aeroplane mode and it'll *greatly* increase the battery life (easily 2 or 4 × more)

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Pauldmorgan [223 posts] 3 years ago
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Does the GPS tracking work in aeroplane mode? If not then the extra battery life would be a bit pointless!

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Raleigh [1665 posts] 3 years ago
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I love that video, makes me  4

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Pauldmorgan [223 posts] 3 years ago
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@mikeprytherch - getting an 800 for xmas - I wish!

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Leviathan [1865 posts] 3 years ago
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Do WADA know about this?

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Colin Peyresourde [1673 posts] 3 years ago
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Will these versions work with a Mac? I have a terrible time with uploading data from my 800.

The mobile link sounds great. But will it work with an iPhone!

Sorry. My little grumble since the after sales service and support I've received since my purchase was lousy.

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pjay [246 posts] 3 years ago
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'Live weather'? Don't you experience this for free when you are out on your bike? I look at the forecast before I go out, but once I've left I'm going to get wet if it rains, aren't I?

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NeilXDavis [122 posts] 3 years ago
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Like the update to the 510 but the 810? Im not convinced at all by - it appears a bit desperate.

The mapping on the 800 and 810 is a right mess - first thing you need to do is go and download a different map...why? you shell out all that cash only to find the main reason you bought it (maps) are rubbish.

Ultimately these devices need to compete with mobiles and not many products survive in that space - the future is clearly some kind of front end dum device that extracts and displays data from your mobile in your pocket...

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notfastenough [3665 posts] 3 years ago
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Raleigh wrote:

I love that video, makes me  4

I'm sure JV sits in a darkened control room in front of multiple screens. All he needs is a white cat to be a bond villain!

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robdaykin (not verified) [368 posts] 3 years ago
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Any chance of doing a long term review, maybe reader input based, since I find that these devices are all very well when shiny and new, but a few months later, when the battery life is vanishing, the mount has broken, a button has failed or the device crashes regularly mid ride then you really regret buying X, Y or Z model as you struggle with customer services. Maybe do a survey?

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mrchrispy [441 posts] 3 years ago
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I've been using a 705 for years and the navigation/mapping is handy but I could live without it. The live tracking is pretty good as the wife does worry when I go out on those cold dark nights....despite the fact I'm a mobile advert for exposure lights.

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Farky [183 posts] 3 years ago
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I gotta admit to being a techie/gadget addict and yet i find myself trying to balance the cost Vs function designs of these Vs mobiles.

I havent used any Garmins and currently use 2 devices to track my rides/performance; Polar CD800Cad and a iPhone4s with Strava and a spreadsheet.

Polar does speed, cadence, time and HR well, logs about 15 rides and clears the oldest to leave room for new rides. Wire free but loads of cable ties and 2 big sensors. Display is great and HR works well.

Communication is via my fingers and a spreadsheet as I dont use a PC anymore, smartphone only.

Strava we all know, it also tracks distance, always different from the bikes actual, logs my route for others to see and gives me some additional performance stats like segments and gradients that can be broken down easily enough.

I dont have issues with my iPhones battery though I dont often do rides over 4 hours. I do use Airplane mode when I do club runs as they tend to be longer times rides and Strava hasnt has an issue as yet but I have lost one short ride doing the same, just one though.

Non of the Garmins do everything either but the 510 looks to do things much better albeit with a cadence sensor being required.

The communication via bluetooth looks excellent against having to addon an adapter to a smartphone or plug it into a pc physically, still not foolproof as BT is problematic at best but the link to a smartphone is the main key for me in this scenario.

Id not have to take a mobile and bike computer on myrides anymroe...except I always would as I like to have emergency backup of a phone and I use the camera loads. The iPhone also has great mapping options for review rather than direction in my case and the battery will never be in doubt if using a Garmin.

This will be on my list, as will testing one at a sportive that rents them for the day.

Best start saving for a 510 then...

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Dave42W [49 posts] 3 years ago
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Hi,

"when did you last go anywhere without looking at a map first?"

Well it worked brilliantly for my 11 day LEJOG. I rode with the OS Map displayed with the route on it. Made it very easy despite using many tiny roads and off road sections. Far too many junctions to remember them. Didn't need to carry a map.

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Paul J [865 posts] 3 years ago
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@Pauldmorgan: Yes, GPS works in aeroplane mode, at least with Android generally.

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torquerulesok [21 posts] 3 years ago
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@Colin Peyresourde: my 800 works perfectly fine with my MBA (Mountain Lion).

No problems connecting Strava or My Garmin. BaseCamp unfortunately is a dumbed-down version of Mapsource and hopeless for creating bike-specific routes easily. Also, it is way too much hassle to export routes from Google Maps to the 800. Garmin, get your act together!

Given that the 810 adds little useful functionality to that of my 800 (I have no interest in bike-specific displays, I know what I want to have displayed - the display has been configured to my requirements - and I want that to see on all my bikes), I see no need to upgrade until Garmin improve the route creation process, either in BaseCamp or with a connection to Google Maps.

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peasantpigfarmer [46 posts] 3 years ago
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Save your money everyone! I have been using various garmin products now,poor quality,poor backup and service. edges are great as a cycle computor,lots of glitches though. satnav maps etc,are complete crap. Buy an Iphone and install cyclemeter app. I promise you wont look back! Invest in a good waterproof mount.its compatible with ANT+ and bluetooth heartrate straps,powermeters,cadence transmitters. (I was anti iphone til I borrowed a mates one with this app,I was very impressed!)

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peasantpigfarmer [46 posts] 3 years ago
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Sorry all,forgot to mention some of the better iphone holders for cycles have an additional battery built in to increase ride time!  1

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matthewn5 [726 posts] 3 years ago
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If Endomondo makes your iPhone go flat in 'a couple of hours' you have a problem with your phone.
My year old iPhone 4 lasted the whole of the Dunwich Dynamo running Endomondo, though it was flat when I pressed 'stop' on the beach. That's 10 hours of continuous recording (yeah, I certainly wasn't the fastest out there).

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