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Oh dear, where to start... * You brought the Netherlands into it * I merely corrected you erroneous assertion * I didn't say that the Netherlands were to be aspired to * The chart that you proved is road fatalities in general, per million population, not per billon miles travelled. * The article that you linked to clearly highlights the fact that the lower drop in casualty rates for cyclists Vs those for drivers is mostly down to the drive for in-car safety and the attendant nonchalance shown by the occupants of vehicles towards the outside world (pedestrians, cyclists, other vehicles and roadside objects) You are, as ever, desperately clutching at out of context straws.
Are bike light buttons in short supply? Must we be restricted to just one which requires the skills of a morse code operator to be able to switch between steady and flashing; high, medium and low? Whilst many technological gadgets have evolved to become so intuative they no longer require a manual, the bloody bike light comes with a cartoon comic of disembodied hands describing a rhythm only available to the practiced percussionist.
I almost never fail to wear a helmet when cycling, and I've been wearing them since I saw the first Americans over here wearing the early Bell helmets. I recall being jeered at for wearing one on the Maryhill Road in Glasgow in 1976, and the Bell Biker helmet shown here: ttps://helmets.org/bicycle-helmet-history/ is still hanging on a hook at home. My only objection to the anti-helmet propaganda involves the notion that wearing a helmet makes the wearer more likely to suffer a collision and consequent head injury. I resort to common sense to dispute this. A helmet is a good place to put a headcam, and a waterproof helmet cover, and doesn't cause me any discomfort.
Video of crash mentioned above: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfCdbwPdK9M
I do try not to enter into discussion with you on this Bert, because I know you will never change your stance one iota, but I've crashed a motorcycle at around 35 mph and hit my head on the kerb hard enough to compress discs in my spine and tear neck ligaments but above the neck I came away with nothing worse than a mild concussion. If you're going to tell me that I could've done the same thing without a helmet on and walked away with the same injuries I'm going to have to say that's nonsense. Anyone who's ever watched MotoGP will have seen riders coming off at high speed and smashing their heads and getting up to walk away. Just as an example, check out this crash from Marquez this season: up in the air at high speed, down straight on his head, got up and walked away. Screenshot below, I'll post a link to the video as a reply so I don't get stuck in link quarantine. Again, it's clearly nonsense to say the helmet hasn't worked when someone's walked away from coming down headfirst on the tarmac from a height at high speed.
@belugabob I'm afraid you're ignorant of the true data, buying into the misconception that the Netherlands should be emulated. In fact the Netherlands and the EU (per usual) is falling behind in terms of cycling safety. Please see https://etsc.eu/europes-cyclists-left-behind-as-safety-gap-widens-new-etsc-report-finds/ And attached demonstrates the mismatch between your preconceived opinion and hard cold facts
To understand any active travel scheme, you only really need to ask one question: “How does this impact on free/cheap parking?” In this case, it explains the majority of the ‘controversy’ It is not long since someone sat on a bench in RVP was hit by a driver and hospitalised. But do let’s worry about those “speeding cyclists”. https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/teenager-hit-car-sat-bench-11070561.amp
@kingleo I've still got a label from a helmet, and it says something like 'this helmet may not protect you in all foreseeable accidents' which just gives them an out when someone claims that it didn't work. Not sure the professionals should wear motorcycle helmets, as they are heavy, very well insulated and only work up to about 16mph: not sure you'd win too many TdF's at that speed, and anyway, your brain would fry.
@EM69 To be clear, my comment relates specifically to the new Sirius that came out a few months ago. As far as I can tell, the new Strada retains H/M/L steady levels in program 1.
@mitsky If I were a police officer involved in implementing the scheme I think I would find it very hard to hear the details given by those self-important/rich/arrogant (in the City these terms may be synonymous) enough to accept the fine, meaning they had to be repeated multiple times. I might also experience frequent pencil lead breakage and a difficulty in finding the right form to fill in, perhaps also frequently breaking off to use my radio ("Excuse me sir, it's an important message from my superintendent. What's that sir? Soya latte, a pain chocolat and a blueberry muffin, right you are sir"), so that by the time the paperwork was completed and they had been sent on their way with a fine those who chose to stop and watch the video had already departed.
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Extremely misleading headline
Extremely misleading headline on the Mottram story. Reading the copy it’s clear how out of context that headline is – making him out to be cycling’s equivalent of Gerald Ratner. This site is getting more clickbaity by the day
Zebulebu wrote:
It’s been like this for many many years.
Zebulebu wrote:
crap laggy comments double post
Zebulebu wrote:
That’s the inevitable consequence of a business model which depends on advertising – to pay the team & cover the costs, they’ve got to have revenue. One way of getting revenue is selling advertising. To sell advertising space, you’ve got to have visitors. Too attract visitors, you’ve got to have clickable headlines.
Building up a loyal, regular, valuable readership based on high quality content alone without clickbait headlines takes a very long time, and may not even be a sustainable model nowadays.
I’d agree that there are many clickbait headlines here, more than there used to be. But we’re still voting to support them with our mouse clicks, so they’re doing something right.
Don’t like it? Click elsewhere.
Almost Daily Mail esque in
Almost Daily Mail esque in creating a clickbaitable headline from something by lack of context.
N.B. If there was any doubt that’s NOT a compliment.
pastyfacepaddy wrote:
Guess what guys? This is a business. How much do you pay to read this site? I thought so.
Give them a break.
simonmb wrote:
Guess what guys? This is a business. How much do you pay to read this site? I thought so.
Give them a break.— pastyfacepaddy
Time is money. I lost £0.27 reading this site today.
Nonsense – regarding the
Nonsense – regarding the Mottram headline, it’s not clickbait it’s simple reporting.
Mottram himself said that statement himself to be ‘inflammatory’ so to the trolls above, go and piss over his chips, or Matt Barbet’s who published the interview, you’re not forced to read the site.
peted76 wrote:
Who the fuck are you calling a troll? I’m pointing out that something has been taken out of context. Or do you not understand that? If he’d said that to be inflammatory, trust me – Rapha have an army of publicists who’d do a much better job of using it – it would probably end up in a marketing brochure. There’s a big difference between pointing something out, and someone who is ‘trolling’ (eg: deliberately winding people up to get a reaction). And yes, I am aware that I have fallen spectactularly into that trap here…
I understand the need to drive revenue through clicks. Editorial content needs to be paid for somehow (hence the seemignly endless videos of people being close passed, with attendant wittering in the comments and (true) trolling. However – there is a huge amount of value to be gained in treading that line between compelling content and commercial/’sucker’ content. I’m merely pointing out that this fails to tread that line
Mottram article seems to have
Mottram article seems to have gone from the live blog now. You’ve hurt their feelings