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Virgin Media investigating incident which happened in Cheadle, Greater Manchester in June

Virgin Media says it is looking into an incident in which a driver of one of its vans was filmed swerving towards a cyclist who was overtaking it.

According to the timestamp on a video shot by the dashcam of a vehicle immediately behind the van, the incident took place on 29 June.

The footage, which was taken close to the Golden Days Garden Centre in Cheadle, Greater Manchester, was uploaded to YouTube on 31 July with the title, "Van Trying to Hit a Cyclist."

The description of the video reads: "Van driver trying to hit a cyclist twice. "

As the rider overtakes the van, the driver swerves sharply to the right, forcing the cyclist to take evasive action. 

The cyclist then moves to the nearside of the vehicle, unclips and has a brief conversation with the driver, who moves the vehicle to the left. 

While the general consensus on social media is that the driver deliberately swerved at the cyclist, another explanation could be that he simply did not see him and that the rider overtaking the fan coincided with the van driver deciding to overtake a vehicle in front that may be waiting to turn left into the garden centre, although that is not clear from the footage.

The incident was flagged to Virgin Media by Twitter users this morning and the company requested further details.

If you are the cyclist involved, or know who the rider is, we'd be very interested in learning what the van driver's explanation was.

The episode seems is reminiscent of one we reported on that happened in April in which a van driver in Sussex swerved into a cyclist, forcing him off the road.

The driver was sacked by his employers immediately they became aware of the footage.

> Sussex van driver filmed forcing cyclist off road to appear in court

Born in Scotland, Simon moved to London aged seven and now lives in the Oxfordshire Cotswolds with his miniature schnauzer, Elodie. He fell in love with cycling one Saturday morning in 1994 while living in Italy when Milan-San Remo went past his front door. A daily cycle commuter in London back before riding to work started to boom, he's been news editor at road.cc since 2009. Handily for work, he speaks French and Italian. He doesn't get to ride his Colnago as often as he'd like, and freely admits he's much more adept at cooking than fettling with bikes.

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CXR94Di2 [1774 posts] 2 months ago
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Oh dear another stupid, dangerous driver caught on film, who will be subsequently tracked by their employer and sacked, followed by dangerous driving charge.  Yippeeee

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StuInNorway [132 posts] 2 months ago
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No question that it was a deliberate move by the van driver,  he sees the cyclist approaching in his mirror and closes the left gap, see's him go right and makes a determined effort to take him out.
Hopefully this is now an EX-employee.

 

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Grahamd [665 posts] 2 months ago
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How do you categorise such an action, dangerous driving would seem inadequate?

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fenix [739 posts] 2 months ago
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Shocking ! I'd hope accidental rather than deliberate - be interesting to know what was said.

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rliu [112 posts] 2 months ago
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With people like this, I find it really hard to sympathise for the dystopian future when driving jobs will be replaced by self driving vehicles.

Who knows, one day maybe this driver will have to become a cycle courier to earn his living...

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spen [193 posts] 2 months ago
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I'd go with the second explanation, the driver went to overtake without checking his mirrors first.  Incompetent but not malicious

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BehindTheBikesheds [714 posts] 2 months ago
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This isn't a motoring offence, it's an assault plain and simple and should be charged as such but add in an 18month ban for good measure anyway.

I hope this cunt gets what's coming to him but sadly unlikely.

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Ramuz [309 posts] 2 months ago
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I thought he was looking to do a U-turn actually.

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don simon [1309 posts] 2 months ago
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What was he supposedly  overtaking?

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Rich_cb [369 posts] 2 months ago
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spen wrote:

I'd go with the second explanation, the driver went to overtake without checking his mirrors first.  Incompetent but not malicious

The van driver clearly moves left just as the cyclist approaches, then swerves right when the cyclist tries to pass him on the right.

If he was going to overtake why would he move left first?

This looks completely deliberate to me.

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handlebarcam [1043 posts] 2 months ago
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And that's why I hope Jeremy Clarkson gets a hospital-acquired infection. Oh come on, it's just a joke like on Top Gear.

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burtthebike [1114 posts] 2 months ago
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Grahamd wrote:

How do you categorise such an action, dangerous driving would seem inadequate?

It wasn't dangerous driving, it was assault with a deadly weapon, and the driver should be charged appropriately.

To save others wasting quite so much time, it starts at 2:55.

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kraut [146 posts] 2 months ago
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why is this being investigated by virgin media rather than the police?

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kraut [146 posts] 2 months ago
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why is this being investigated by virgin media rather than the police?

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Jumbotron [2 posts] 2 months ago
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I know this stretch of road well. It used to be a relatively safe route in and out of south manchester. The local council turned it in to a very dangerous road for cyclists to use. The road was more than wide enough to share with traffic. However the council narrowed the road significantly to add a mixed use cycling path and footpath (on the right and side of the road in the video). The victim in the video would have to cross on coming traffic to get on the path for a few hundred metres only to be deposited into the oncoming traffic when the path runs out. It's impossibly dangerous to use. 

Worse still, and I think of rellavance to this situation, is that traffic on this road now expects cyclists to actually use the cycle path. Since it's inception I've been treated to punishment passes and actual verbal abuse directing me to get off the road and on to the cycle path, on a number of occasions. I now avoid this road whenever possible.

 

 

 

 

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RedfishUK [159 posts] 2 months ago
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spen wrote:

I'd go with the second explanation, the driver went to overtake without checking his mirrors first.  Incompetent but not malicious

 

I don't think so. He can't overtake. There is a fairly constant stream of trffic coming the other way and I assume judging by the speed, the car and the van are in a queue of traffic, so there wasn't room to overtake

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NorthEastJimmy [94 posts] 2 months ago
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I'd like to believe it was just an accident but it totally wasn't.  You don't do a minor swerve left before overtaking.  Also look at the vehicle in front of the van, it's way ahead so you would't start over taking there anyway.  And finally its such a violent swerve to the right that it can only be either to take the cyclist out, or it's some crazy U-turn manoover which it clearly wasn't.

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Kadinkski [722 posts] 2 months ago
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This is how that conversation went:

Van Driver: "Get on the fucken cycle path, what are you on the road for, road tax blah blah blah"

Cyclist: "Um...?"

Its madness, its honestly insane, why would a human-being try to kill another human-being that happens to be on a bike because they are overtaking them or not using a cycle path or whatever?

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gazpacho [109 posts] 2 months ago
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And that's why I only use Sky, a media company that invests in cyclists, not tries to kill them...

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dottigirl [796 posts] 2 months ago
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gazpacho wrote:

And that's why I only use Sky, a media company that invests in cyclists, not tries to kill them...

Think you better google 'Sky team bus close pass'.

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gazpacho [109 posts] 2 months ago
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dottigirl wrote:
gazpacho wrote:

And that's why I only use Sky, a media company that invests in cyclists, not tries to kill them...

Think you better google 'Sky team bus close pass'.

 

No-one likes a smart arse   3

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wycombewheeler [1202 posts] 2 months ago
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spen wrote:

I'd go with the second explanation, the driver went to overtake without checking his mirrors first.  Incompetent but not malicious

no doubt in my mind this was deloberate, you do not position you vehicle right up against the kerb when thinking about overtaking. It is only done by drivers trying to prevent cyclists filtering up the inside.

This is the perfect example why filtering on the right may not be better than filtering on the left. I'd rather be pushed onto the kern than into oncoming traffic.

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scottydug [19 posts] 2 months ago
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Apologies if stated previously. If you use virgin media and you cycle. Stop using virgin media.

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Awavey [334 posts] 2 months ago
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I cant believe anyone doesnt think that was completely deliberate by the van driver its not just the turn to the left or sudden veer to the right, its when the cyclist is trying to then move off, and the van driver is still using their van to intimidate them all that stop start stuff, theres nothing in front of the van at that point to hold it up like that, cyclist took the right choice to stay well clear  after that.

 

But I suspect like alot of tv cable installers they are just subcontracted, they dont work for Virgin directly, even though their van might have the right logos on it.

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cocomo [14 posts] 2 months ago
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Hmm

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don simon [1309 posts] 2 months ago
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But I suspect like alot of tv cable installers they are just subcontracted, they dont work for Virgin directly, even though their van might have the right logos on it.

Yet they're still the face of Virgin to the man in the street. It should be important to them how these people represent their brand.

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Yorkshire wallet [1428 posts] 2 months ago
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Would the driver pull that stunt on a motorcyclist ? Having watched a lot of YouTube, I'd say it's possible.

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HarrogateSpa [493 posts] 2 months ago
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I tried to watch the video and read the article, but the page keeps auto-scrolling to an advertisement video with sound. Road.cc, you are making your website impossible to use.

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Mungecrundle [866 posts] 2 months ago
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There is no way that was anything other than an attack.

Deliberately blocks the left and then swerves violently to the right when the cyclist goes to overtake.

There was a discussion on another thread not so long back about the body language of vehicles. The body language of this van is anger and aggression. There is nothing methodical, just a violent sawing at the wheel in frustration at another road user when the first blocking manouver is thwarted. There is no car in front waiting to turn left, there is no reason visible that the van driver was taking evasive action to avoid something else, e.g debris in the road. To remove all doubt, after the cyclist is in front, just look at the speed the van picks up almost hitting the back of the bike before having to brake hard to avoid the stationary vehicles in the queue of traffic.

I hope all his / her tools fell on the floor, and that a letter from the Police will be landing on the doormat ready for when he / she gets home from their last day at work having been escorted from site after an uncomfortable meeting with HR.

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fluffed [40 posts] 2 months ago
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The left block is all too common in stationary or very slow moving traffic. Driver sees bike coming thinks 'no way im letting this fecker pass' and basically kerbs thier car. The usual response is to go right, if safe,  as this chap did,  usually not followed by a second block/ take outmanoeuvre though! Hope the driver gets his comeuppance.

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