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Trek about to launch road disc equipped road bike? As Bontrager says road discs are the future

Trek's component guru outlines why discs are the way forward for the pro peloton… and it's not just cos they stop better

Leading bike industry figure Keith Bontrager believes that disc brakes on road bikes are the future and we believe that Bontrager’s parent company, Trek, will almost certainly be launching a disc-equipped road bike in the near future.

“The basic problem is that rim brakes for bicycles were developed around aluminum rims and rubber brake pads,” said Keith Bontrager. “All of the part dimensions, leverage, etc depend on the fundamental physical properties of those two materials. And the state of the art is pretty good.

“Now we are substituting a rim material with much less thermal capacitance and heat conductivity. That changes everything from a thermodynamic point of view.

“Disc brakes will solve that problem. They will also solve wet braking, another situation that the carbon rims performance is limited and always will be (also for fundamental reasons).

“The UCI could change the rule soon because the major component makers will have well developed braking systems available. I have no insight into whether the changes will occur at any particular point.”

 

We used to hear from bike industry insiders that the introduction of disc brakes in the pro peloton was at least two or three years away, but over recent weeks we’ve been told by two different wheel manufacturers (neither of them Bontrager) that they expect a shift to happen sooner than that, largely in response to changes in the senior echelons of the UCI and an apparently increased willingness to embrace technological innovation.

“Having worked with Fabian Cancellara, I’ve watched him destroy a pair of carbon rim pads in a single Vuelta stage,” Keith Bontrager said, quoted recently in Bike Biz. “From a thermodynamics point of view it was a big mess. The weight of discs on pro bikes won’t be an issue, I mean at present we’re adding weight just to meet the regulations.”

Bontrager is here referring to the UCI’s 6.8kg minimum bike weight limit. It’s not legal to race a bike that weighs less than this in a UCI sanctioned event, despite every major manufacturer having the technical capacity to build bikes considerably lighter.

With Keith Bontrager’s comments in mind, we asked Trek UK whether they had plans to release any disc-equipped road bikes in the near future.

“Since we don't have a model year any longer, we'll be introducing bikes as and when they are ready,” said Chris Garrison of Trek UK. “We are working on disc-equipped bikes and Keith Bontrager is part of that development.”

And what’s the timing on that? Trek aren’t saying on the basis that unforeseen delays can happen.

Trek do already have disc-equipped cyclocross bikes in the range, one of which is the the £2,400 Boone 5 Disc (above). The Boone bikes feature an IsoSpeed decoupler which isolates the seat tube from the rest of the frameset to provide more compliance and comfort. The obvious launch point for Trek in the disc brake road bike market would be for them to offer the existing Domane, the bike that first featured the IsoSpeed decoupler, as a disc option.

When we showed you the Trek 2014 range (the last one in which Trek will stick to a product year), some people were surprised that there was no Domane disc option included. At the time, Trek UK commented, “No disc road bikes for us right now. We are researching them, but we won't bring something to market unless we're satisfied that it's done right. We haven't reached that comfort level with disc road bike design, so nothing from us in that category at this time.”

That time could be approaching. Trek is, of course, one of the most influential bike brands in the world thanks to a large marketshare and the Trek Factory Racing WorldTour team, among other things. If they introduce disc-equipped road bikes, it’s likely to have a significant impact on the market and the future direction of road bike design.

Out at Taipei Cycle a couple of weeks ago, we reported that Reynolds is extending its range of disc brake wheels for road bikes, treating the whole disc thing as a serious shift in the market. Plenty of other wheel brands are doing something similar.

Another indication that the pros will be using discs at some stage in the not too distant future comes from the World Federation of the Sporting Goods Industry (WFSGI), a body that represents many of the major cycling manufacturers. Earlier this month we reported that the WFSGI has discussed disc brakes with Dimitris Katsanis, the new consultant to the UCI’s Equipment Commission. 

“Dimitris... showed an openness towards this topic,” said Yves Mori, the WFSGI’s Communication and Bicycle Manager. “There is already a specific disc brake group inside the Technical Committee of the WFSGI and Dimitris has mentioned that he is willing to work together with this specific disc brake group to speak about the possible introduction of disc brakes in road racing.”

So, it’s looking increasingly possible that disc brakes could be introduced in pro racing in the fairly near future. Of course, the rest of us are free to ride disc brake road bikes now, whether or not they’re permitted in top-level racing, but if the pros start using discs it’ll certainly influence their popularity in the marketplace.

Mat has been in cycling media since 1996, on titles including BikeRadar, Total Bike, Total Mountain Bike, What Mountain Bike and Mountain Biking UK, and he has been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Now over 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions.

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mrmo replied to Yorkshie Whippet | 10 years ago
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Yorkshie Whippet wrote:

Time will tell. Although I see no reason why us mere mortals have to wait for the pro's before we go disc.

Only if you race.

Track bikes are safe because no one has any brakes, road bikes are safe because everyone has equal braking, In the same way having road bikes and track bikes mixing together on the track is only ever going to end badly, the same applies to road racing.

If your not racing it really doesn't matter, disc brakes are coming, you can deny it, you can fight against it, but within maybe 5 years most bikes above £500 will come with disc brakes. My issue is more regarding what those brakes will be like. Hydro or mechanical, winter salt, bad cable routings, cold weather, all can be real issues. Knowing someone who had the pleasurable experience of the cable leading to his chainstay mounted caliper freezing solid.

As said not convinced, but it is what it is.

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jacknorell replied to mrmo | 10 years ago
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mrmo wrote:

Hydro or mechanical, winter salt, bad cable routings, cold weather, all can be real issues. Knowing someone who had the pleasurable experience of the cable leading to his chainstay mounted caliper freezing solid.

Wouldn't a frozen rear brake be a very minor issue anyway? My braking is easily 90% front, probably more, so my rear being out of action wouldn't bother me much.

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mrmo replied to jacknorell | 10 years ago
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jacknorell wrote:
mrmo wrote:

Hydro or mechanical, winter salt, bad cable routings, cold weather, all can be real issues. Knowing someone who had the pleasurable experience of the cable leading to his chainstay mounted caliper freezing solid.

Wouldn't a frozen rear brake be a very minor issue anyway? My braking is easily 90% front, probably more, so my rear being out of action wouldn't bother me much.

You may do most of your braking with the front brake, BUT how would you react if you pull your rear brake and nothing happens? On a hill would you be happy to rely on only your front brake to control your speed?

Issue is simply, you have two brakes, you expect the two brakes to work, if you know one isn't working you compensate, if you suddenly discover one isn't working when you need it you are more likely to panic, pull the remaining brake too hard, and remember disc brakes can exert more force. So you crash.

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jacknorell replied to mrmo | 10 years ago
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I've come from a more than decade long period of riding mountainbikes with discs... pulling too hard and crashing doesn't happen.

Also, in that arena, things break a lot, so a rear brake cr***ing out is bothersome, but wouldn't be much of a problem.

I guess on the road things don't break much, so riders aren't used to adjusting?

If the front stopped working though... I'd drop a load and hope it helped with breaking!

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allez neg | 10 years ago
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Bontrager has been there and done that. I think he carries a fair chunk of credibility in the industry.

I wish I'd got one of his steel hardtail frames back in the 90s. .....

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mrmo replied to allez neg | 10 years ago
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allez neg wrote:

Bontrager has been there and done that. I think he carries a fair chunk of credibility in the industry.

I wish I'd got one of his steel hardtail frames back in the 90s. .....

Got two and very nice they are too, only issues, they are 1" headsets and don't do discs.

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caaad10 | 10 years ago
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No-one will be forced to buy them, but everyone will. Personally I can't wait....

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Nick T replied to caaad10 | 10 years ago
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caaad10 wrote:

No-one will be forced to buy them..

Depends if they sweep compulsory disc brakes in for any UCI sanctioned event.

Quite a few people will be forced to.

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pwake | 10 years ago
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Having grown up in the Seventies using pressed steel side-pull brakes with rock-hard rubber blocks on chromed steel rims... in the wet, I'll take any improvement I can get and pay for it!

"...and if you tell that to the young people today, they won't believe you..."

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mrmo | 10 years ago
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Not really surprising,

Whether we need disc brakes or not is irrelevant, road bikes will get them.

Curious to know how they will be handled though, I took a tow off a group of roadies at the weekend when out on the mtb, it was noticeable how much more careful I had to be with the brakes than when with the same group on a road bike.

Also will road bikes get hydro's across the board, or will it be cable unless you stump up for Di2/EPS,

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Nick T | 10 years ago
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Oh, I'm not knocking him or disc brakes, I'm just in a cynical mood this afternoon so don't mind me.

It's an absolute certainty we'll see a rule change allowing discs, and I'm fascinated to see what changes it'll bring. My gut feeling nothing much will be different in the pro road scene but selling bikes is big business - we've done lightweight, we've done super stiffness, we're doing aero now and the same for electronic gears. None of it's really made much of a difference at the sharp end of things so far so I don't expect discs to, either.

Discs make huge sense for a lot of other types of riding though, absolutely.

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fukawitribe replied to Nick T | 10 years ago
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Nick T wrote:

Oh, I'm not knocking him or disc brakes, I'm just in a cynical mood this afternoon so don't mind me.

 1 Well you're certainly right about one thing - a lot of a companies won't just be pushing them just for charity..

Nick T wrote:

Discs make huge sense for a lot of other types of riding though, absolutely.

True - however bombing around some of the hills in Bristol in the wet, i'd take 'em.

That's just me mind although, if I was really sure about re-incarnation, i'd be quite tempted to rock up at a road.cc or BR forum party with a disc-braked, 11-speed, compact chainset, Carbon framed bike - running 28mm tubeless tyres of course - take off my helmet and hi-viz and see just exactly how long i'd last  3

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Nick T replied to fukawitribe | 10 years ago
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fukawitribe wrote:

True - however bombing around some of the hills in Bristol in the wet, i'd take 'em.

Me too.

Though if I was paid a hefty sum to get around a course and down the hills as fast as humanly possible on closed roads, I suspect it wouldn't matter a jot if I was on rim or disc brakes.

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jmaccelari | 10 years ago
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But in this case, I would agree. Having moved from v brakes to disc on my MTBs, I can't wait for road brakes to move that way as well...

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Nick T | 10 years ago
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New kit is the future, says man who wants to sell you new kit.

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fukawitribe replied to Nick T | 10 years ago
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Nick T wrote:

New kit is the future, says man who wants to sell you new kit.

He's also a straight-talking bloke with a massive wealth of experience and an engineer at heart to boot. From what i've seen of him in talks, interviews and the like - I personally doubt he actually gives that much of a stuff about the financial side of road discs as long as his stuff is done technically well.

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