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Seat post bags yet or nah rack and bag

Are seat post bags any good, robust and reliable?

So looking for a new bike or possibly frameset to build up. Primarily used for commuting but also as only space for one bike something that I can do club events and everything in between on.
Ideally and the limiting choice factors seem to be to have wide tyre clearance possibly ability to run both 700c and 650B so can do light gravel/MTB/future proofing in case route changes and indeed I can currently go road way or towpath way
Mud guard and rack mounts , to carry a bit of luggage and stay cleaner.
and internal cabling.
My previous bike for reference was a mason Bokeh, wanting something a bit racier aero lighter but still practical lol budget up to £4k ish with at least 105 equivalent mechanical hydraulic disc brakes.

Some of the nicer lighter Endurance bikes or racey gravel bikes like the Specialised CruX (yes I know there's the Diverge range) don't have mounts, so wondering whether I could ditch the rack and back roller bag and instead have a large seat pack?
I'm not realistically going to be doing bike packing, just commuting so need to carry basic office kit.
Although it leaves the question of guards and how robust (p)clip on guards would be for those bikes with mud guard eyelets?

Also thinking of changing the light set up. I previously ran a Hope R4 front and rear light off one external battery pack. The cables were routed internally through the frame, with the battery pack located in the underside of BB in a Fabric careless tool keg, tempted to go with something like an Exposure with internal batteries - what's a decent combo needs to be bright enough for both on and off road riding.
Thanks again

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OnYerBike | 1 year ago
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In terms of the bike itself, I appreciate you only want one bike, but it is a lot to ask for something that is suitable for commuting, suitable for light MTB use and still light/racy/aero. A "racy" gravel bike is probably your best bet (so if not the Crux then something like Canyon Grail) - although you typically won't get the most practical features that are useful for commuting. 

There are some good seatpacks out there. Whether or not one is suitable for you is an open question. It seems to me the main drawbacks of seatpacks for commuting are capacity (typically small), shape (e.g. very few will take a laptop), and mounting (generally a lot more faff than taking a pannier off and on). Given your budget, something like a Tailfin might be an option to get full pannier capability on a bike without dedicated mounts. 

Lights - for off-road riding it's  generally recommended to have both a handlebar light and a helmet light. Exposure do a couple of sets which are presumably intended for that purpose, but I haven't tried for off-road riding. I do have Exposure lights for road riding and they are very well made, although expensive. Plenty of reviews out there of other options though. 

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Secret_squirrel | 1 year ago
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You want a Fairlight Strael.  All the mounts you need and stupidly fast on road or gravel path when stripped back.  Sexy as hell too if custom drawn 853 is your thing.  Will take 38c tyres with guards at 650b with a bit of fettling of Bluemels or similar bendable/cuttable mudguards.

I used to run one (2nd hand from Ebay) before going one better with a Reilly Gradient (identical geom to the Strael) but much wider tyre clearance.

Love my gradient but still sorta miss the Strael.

If you want a dirt cheap seat bag to dip your toe in the water have a look at Podsac's ones on the Planet X site.  You can get a full set of bikepacking bags for not much more than £100 - especially if you hang on for one of their discount weeks.

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jaymack | 1 year ago
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A Condor 'Fratello' would be fit the bill with bags from Restrap.

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kil0ran | 1 year ago
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Trek Domane SLR is in your budget. Rack and mudguard mounts, 4 bottle mounts, endurance geo. 35mm tyres with guards I believe.
(As long as you've got somewhere secure to lock it up)
The aluminium version is similarly practical and discounted heavily at the moment. So you can spend anywhere from about £800-£4k on what's essentially the same bike

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Steve K | 1 year ago
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I've never been a multiple bike owner.  Both my previous bike (a Charge Juicer) and my current one (Ribble Endurance Ti) have mudguard eyelets, but not rack ones.  With both, I've used a seat post clamp with rack mounts and the mudguard mounts to fix a rack.

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IanMSpencer | 1 year ago
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With that budget, I'm not sure why you would compromise, plenty of bikes out there to find one with the right configuration. What is now called a gravel bike is exactly what is going to fit your flexibility needs, but as you've found different designers have different ideas of what a gravel bike is from something akin to a tourer to a gravel race bike.

My Giant Revolt 2 was way less than your budget and has rack and guard mounts, double GRX groupset, hydraulic discs. I've got a second set of wheels for gravel and endurance. Basically winter bike and gravel bike.The only negative of riding it compared with the Defy is tyre weight as it has 32mm tyres (deliberate choice for winter road riding) which are noticeable on climbs. Unfortunately my Defy has 140 discs so I haven't been able to prove it is the tyres (without effort!) but the Revolt is a great all day rider. When I had problems with my summer bike, the Revolt was fine as a road bike, just noticeable that I had to work a bit harder up hill.

I've got Flinger guards on it. Don't try and get away with lightweight guards, they don't last and are rattly. It takes a couple of minutes to remove them or replace the Flingers once fitted to size.

Using a rack puts the weight lower down.

So my suggestion is as a first pass, stick with full guard and rack fitting. Only if you really can't find what you are after consider the workaround options, especially if commuting is going to be the main use.

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wtjs | 1 year ago
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The obvious answer is this

Mounted on this 

The problem is that the biggest capacity bag is made of aged obsolete materials with obsolete buckles

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jaymack replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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But like my ones they'll still be working perfectly after 20 plus years of use. 

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Tom_77 | 1 year ago
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I bought a gravel bike, which I use for commuting. It doesn't have mounts for a rear rack so I'm using a seat post bag. It works OK, but it's not ideal. I find the shape is the main issue.

I'm going to need to carry a laptop on my bike from next year, so I'm getting an Ortlieb Quick Rack. There are a few similar racks for bikes without mounts - Tailfin looks very good, but it's also very expensive.

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