I've got various pairs of bib shorts, 3/4s and a pair of bib tights. Given the cold this winter the tights are getting plenty of use and they are just not quite warm enough. They are a pair of DHB roubaix ones, without the windblock. I'm planning on getting some more tomorrow, well trying some on at least. One aspect I'm thinking over is buying a set of tights without a pad, maybe the gore oxygen ones and then wearing shorts underneath. I often ride Saturday and Sunday, so I could just buy a second pair of bib-tights with a pad, but are unpadded bib tights a good idea? Comfortable with a pair of shorts underneath?